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admin — Wed, 09 May 2012 02:01:38 +0000

On 5/8/2012 9:44 PM, Sid9 wrote:
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>> “clairbear” wrote in message
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>>> “Sid9″ wrote in news:joccsn$rqb$1 @&*$?%dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> “David Hartung” wrote in message
>>>> news:j6adndnbju6zLzTSnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d @&*$?%giganews.com…
>>>>> On 05/08/2012 05:30 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Werner” wrote in message
>>>>>> news:33304927.265.1336501387394.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
>>> forums @&*$?%vbbh3.
>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>> FDR relied on WW2 to I prove production and lower unemployment.
>>>>>>> Look for something similar when civil unrest builds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First FDR drafted all the unemployed men into the military
>>>>>> There he provided them with socialistic benefits.
>>>>>> Free food
>>>>>> Free clothing
>>>>>> Free shelter
>>>>>> Free medical care
>>>>>> Free training.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They were no longer unemployed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next FDR had factories built which employed women and 4Fs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They produced goods, weapons, explosives, tanks, ship, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This stuff didn’t have to be sold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They put on ships and sent it to Europe and the Far East.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some got sunk by German submarines, some got blown up in battle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How did we pay for it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We raised taxes and borrowed every nickel of the money needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> America prospered!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> America’s standard of living actually improved during WWII.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So how do we apply the lesson learned during WWII?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Do all the things that FDR did.
>>>>>> 2. Hire the Germans and the Japanese to destroy what we produced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (I intend this to be a humorous attack on austerity)
>>>>>> (Austerity does the opposite of what FDR did. Austerity CREATES
>>>>>> unemployment)
>>>>>
>>>>> There is one major difference between then and now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gross Federal debt in 1940 was around 52% of GDP. Today it is around
>>>>> 105% of GDP.
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> The increased economic activity will pay back the borrowed money.
>>>> The debt, as it did after WWII, will shrink by comparison.
>>>> Meanwhile, Americans lives will be improved instead of being made
>>>> miserable by austerity.
>>> WE manufactured the war goods and those factories then change to
>>> consumer good to satisfy pent up demands due to years of privation
>>> during the war. We do not, thanks to the acceleration of out sourcing
>>> that really took off under Clinton and continued under Bush, have the
>>> manufacturing infrastructure that we had at the end of WWII That’s all
>>> been shipped to Asia and other parts of the less affluent parts of the
>>> world. There are at least 5 factories sitting empty in my hometown Emty
>>> of product Empty of tool Empty of jobs We do not have the entrepenuers
>>> do to the tax the rich mentality and years of complacencyby government,
>>> the American business community, and our government teat dependent
>>> people
>>>> The very austerity that could bring on social unrest and violence in
>>>> the streets.
>>>> Evidence of latent street unrest is already showing up in austerity
>>>> driven nations
>>> Auserrity or privations of war the “greatest Generation” dealt with led
>>> to that pent up deamd for all sorts of consumer goods They knew how to
>>> make sacrifices for a better future. WE are all just a bunch of spoiled
>>> kids by comparison
>>>>
>>>> # blowing up the stuff and sinking the ships is not essential to the
>>>> plan. It’s better that we make consumer goods and give it away to our
>>>> people
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> The only sacrifice was with their lives.
>> The goods that improved their lives were given to them by a socialist
>> system
>>
>> Free food
>> Free clothing
>> Free shelter
>> Free medical care
>> Free training.
>>
>> The only thing lacking in 2012 is the motivation.
>>
>> We have the food, the clothing, the shelter, we can provide the
>> medical care, we can provide training.
>>
>> We do not have the WILL to do these things.
>>
>> We have greedy Americans who think that they lose something when we
>> give stuff away.
>> They identify themselves as Tea Party or Republican
>>
>>
>
> Oooops! I even left something important out.
> The “socialist” system even gave them money each month on payday.

You also left out that when you “give” someone what they want, they no
longer need to buy it.

What you “are” doing is killing the economy. No wonder we are in a
recession and still crashing.

Capitalism is freedom of trade, so when the government imposes its self
into a trade, we have lost the Capitalism.

The question is….. what is filling the void where Capitalism had
originally been.

Spend your time in sensitivity training and get some multicultural counseling.

admin — Mon, 07 May 2012 00:40:19 +0000

On 5/6/2012 7:09 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>>>> Johnson takes Libertarian nod, slams GOP over Grenell
>>
>>>>>> By MAGGIE HABERMAN |
>>>>>> 5/5/12 5:30 PM EDT
>>
>>>>>> Gary Johnson formally became the Libertarian nominee for president
>>>>>> earlier today at the party’s Las Vegas convention – and promptly
>>>>>> dinged the GOP, the party he was running for part of last year,
>>>>>> for the criticism from Christian conservatives over Mitt Romney‘s
>>>>>> hiring of Richard Grenell, via Rosie Gray:
>>
>>>>>> “I believe the majority of americans are fiscally responsible and
>>>>>> socially tolerant,” Johnson told BuzzFeed in a phone interview. “I
>>>>>> believe the majority of Americans could care less about whether or
>>>>>> not there is a gay individual working in the Romney campaign.”
>>>>>> Romney’s newly hired foreign policy spokesman Richard Grenell was
>>>>>> openly gay, a fact that raised the ire of social conservatives,
>>>>>> whose reaction resulted in Grenell’s leaving the campaign.
>>
>>>>>> “It speaks volumes to the intolerance that continues to be present
>>>>>> in the Republican Party,” Johnson said. He said he doesn’t attach
>>>>>> that intolerance to the majority of Republicans but to “the
>>>>>> activists driving that agenda.”
>>
>>>>>> “That intolerance is why the world vilifies Republicans,” Johnson
>>>>>> continued. “It’s why I have never worn a Republican t-shirt in my
>>>>>> life. There is a certain Republican dogma I just cannot defend.
>>>>>> Homophobia is one of those issues.”
>>
>>>>>> Romney’s campaign, according to multiple sources, urged Grenell to
>>>>>> stay in a string of phone calls from top advisers within and
>>>>>> outside its Boston headquarters. As Gray notes, they knew he was
>>>>>> gay when he was brought on, and have said the complaints from a
>>>>>> handful of evangelical figures did not impact them at all.
>>
>>>>>> But the flap has continued to make headlines, with Romneyland
>>>>>> getting heat for not calling out the people who issued such
>>>>>> complaints before Grenell left, and with friends of Grenell
>>>>>> criticizing the campaign.
>>
>>>>> Grennell resign, Grennell was gay and your conclusion He was fired
>>>>> a
>>> nd
>>>>> there is a vast conspiracy to cover it up And even if at some point
>>>>> the whole story comes out and proves you wrong you still be going
>>>>> on about for the next twelve months
>>>>> I’ll bet you run around you nieghborhoor in your tin foil hat
>>>>> looking for deadhorses to beat.
>>
>>>> My issue in this post has nothing to with Grenell….although
>>>> Romney’s action IS an issue.
>>
>>>> I was trying to point out the existing splits in the right wing
>>>> factions
>>> of
>>>> American politics.
>>
>>>> 1. The anti- G&*$?%s
>>>> 2. The Tea Party
>>>> 3. Libertarians
>>>> 4. The “Romney isn’t conservative enough to win faction” Limbo
>>>> faction. 5. Evangelicals
>>
>>>> Plus perhaps a few others that I’ve overlooked.
>>
>>> The biggest one of all falls under #3 Libertarian above:
>>
>>> Repugs who don’t want Ron Paul to give an anti-jingoism speech at the
>>> convention.
>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> YOU GUYS seriously need to get some anger and management counseling
>
> As any disinterested 3rd party could guess from the context as well as
> the chortling of the Dems here, you’re projecting again.
>
> Instead of listening to Rush Sean and other hate broadcasting [empty
> intellectual calories] get some exercise and maybe you won’t hate
> yourself to an early death.
>
> In the morning the sum of my systolic + rest pulse rate is often less
> than 140 sometimes less than 130 and hardly ever over 150.
>
> Compare that with the typical obese hate filled bigot teabagger who
> spends the entire day stuffing chips into his mouth and spewing bile.
>

So it’s your contention that stuffing chips and spewing is NOT as
fulfilling as what you do? You have better answers to the meaning of
life than any of the rest of us…?

You picture every last American living to your standards?

NOT very multicultural of you and NOT very sensitive of you… Might I
suggest that while everyone else attends anger management, you spend
your time in sensitivity training and get some multicultural counseling
to bring you up to speed…..

The amount of discouraged workers swelled from 865,000 to 968,000, an increase of 12 percent

admin — Sat, 05 May 2012 00:21:00 +0000

> On May 4, 11:12 am, Bret Cornhole wrote:
>> And the hate that destroyed the Minutemen will soon destroy the Tea
>> Party.
>>
>> Political groups based on hate and violence will never last.
>>
>> Bret Cahill
>
Democrats have been around a while and that “proves” you are full of s&*$?%t.

The first thing you notice here is, of course, the Romney touch – the distinctive lack of empathy for those who weren’t born into affluent families

admin — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:48:21 +0000

On 4/30/2012 5:06 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:
> On Apr 30, 3:48 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>> “Nickname unavailable” wrote in message
>>
>> news:c868bc37-f239-409d-a9d6-e7790b853857 @&*$?%f37g2000yqc.googlegroups.com…
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 30, 3:02 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>
>>>> We can only hopes so.
>>
>>>> Conservatives have already driven two nations, Spain and the UK back into
>>>> recession.
>>>> We KNOW their austerity program makes things worse yet they do it again.
>>>> Same for American Republicans.
>>
>>>> Let’s hope Democrats don’t follow the failed path of austerity
>>
>>> obama already did. he signed onto massive cuts starting in 2013. the
>>> DLC wing of the democratic party is now larger than the liberal/
>>> progressive wing. they are kool aid drinkers of the chicago school of
>>> economics. they either do not believe what caused the great
>>> depression, or do not understand what caused the great depression.
>>> they either do not understand what it took to get out of the great
>>> depression, or do not believe how we got out of the great depression.
>>> obama himself has parroted discredited conservative lies about FDR.
>>> he had the chance to step on the gas in 2009 to escape this. instead
>>> his brain trust was lawrence summers, perter orzag, timothy geithner,
>>> gene sperling, and other discredited DLC pro corporate cranks.
>>
>> Romney will make things a lot worse.
>> He and the Tea Party that controls the Republican party will follow the
>> Spain and UK lead into the economic trashcan.
>>
>> Romney is NOT an alternative to Obama.
>
>
>
> i understand. i would never knowingly vote for a conservative.
> however, obama ran as a FDR, and has governed as a clintonite. he is
> completely out of his class. and he is about to get hit with a mack
> truck, and he does not understand why.

Obama failed in every way imaginable…. if he can *NOT* understand
that; he is truly the *HARVARD VILLAGE IDIOT*

The first thing you notice here is, of course, the Romney touch – the distinctive lack of empathy for those who weren’t born into affluent families

admin — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:35:12 +0000

On 4/30/2012 5:17 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “Nickname unavailable” wrote in message
> news:351db015-21f2-4353-a7b3-6770710c5beb @&*$?%x17g2000yqj.googlegroups.com…
>> On Apr 30, 3:48 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>> “Nickname unavailable” wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:c868bc37-f239-409d-a9d6-e7790b853857 @&*$?%f37g2000yqc.googlegroups.com…
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Apr 30, 3:02 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>>
>>> >> We can only hopes so.
>>>
>>> >> Conservatives have already driven two nations, Spain and the UK
>>> back >> into
>>> >> recession.
>>> >> We KNOW their austerity program makes things worse yet they do it
>>> >> again.
>>> >> Same for American Republicans.
>>>
>>> >> Let’s hope Democrats don’t follow the failed path of austerity
>>>
>>> > obama already did. he signed onto massive cuts starting in 2013. the
>>> > DLC wing of the democratic party is now larger than the liberal/
>>> > progressive wing. they are kool aid drinkers of the chicago school of
>>> > economics. they either do not believe what caused the great
>>> > depression, or do not understand what caused the great depression.
>>> > they either do not understand what it took to get out of the great
>>> > depression, or do not believe how we got out of the great depression.
>>> > obama himself has parroted discredited conservative lies about FDR.
>>> > he had the chance to step on the gas in 2009 to escape this. instead
>>> > his brain trust was lawrence summers, perter orzag, timothy geithner,
>>> > gene sperling, and other discredited DLC pro corporate cranks.
>>>
>>> Romney will make things a lot worse.
>>> He and the Tea Party that controls the Republican party will follow the
>>> Spain and UK lead into the economic trashcan.
>>>
>>> Romney is NOT an alternative to Obama.
>>
>>
>>
>> i understand. i would never knowingly vote for a conservative.
>> however, obama ran as a FDR, and has governed as a clintonite. he is
>> completely out of his class. and he is about to get hit with a mack
>> truck, and he does not understand why.
>
> Obama will make a better second term president because he will no longer
> need to protect his “electability” for a second term.

So you think a President that decides to thwart the “will of the people”
is going to be a better President…. ?

You and Obama are pro totalitarian government and you are both anti
constitution, you’re both scum of the earth.

The first thing you notice here is, of course, the Romney touch – the distinctive lack of empathy for those who weren’t born into affluent families

admin — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:32:03 +0000

Obama failed in every way imaginable…. if he can understand that he
is truly the *HARVARD VILLAGE IDIOT*

The first thing you notice here is, of course, the Romney touch – the distinctive lack of empathy for those who weren’t born into affluent families

admin — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:30:23 +0000

On 4/30/2012 4:48 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “Nickname unavailable” wrote in message
> news:c868bc37-f239-409d-a9d6-e7790b853857 @&*$?%f37g2000yqc.googlegroups.com…
>> On Apr 30, 3:02 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We can only hopes so.
>>>
>>> Conservatives have already driven two nations, Spain and the UK back
>>> into
>>> recession.
>>> We KNOW their austerity program makes things worse yet they do it again.
>>> Same for American Republicans.
>>>
>>> Let’s hope Democrats don’t follow the failed path of austerity
>>
>> obama already did. he signed onto massive cuts starting in 2013. the
>> DLC wing of the democratic party is now larger than the liberal/
>> progressive wing. they are kool aid drinkers of the chicago school of
>> economics. they either do not believe what caused the great
>> depression, or do not understand what caused the great depression.
>> they either do not understand what it took to get out of the great
>> depression, or do not believe how we got out of the great depression.
>> obama himself has parroted discredited conservative lies about FDR.
>> he had the chance to step on the gas in 2009 to escape this. instead
>> his brain trust was lawrence summers, perter orzag, timothy geithner,
>> gene sperling, and other discredited DLC pro corporate cranks.
>
> Romney will make things a lot worse.
> He and the Tea Party that controls the Republican party will follow the
> Spain and UK lead into the economic trashcan.
>
> Romney is NOT an alternative to Obama.

Obama will follow Spain and Italy and the rest into Bankruptcy and
begging for a bailout….. And bail-outs work so well. The first
thing that happens in a bailout is the people making the loans will set
the conditions, so the Socialists are the ones giving these Nations to
the Banksters.

WE HAD TO MOVE JFK to the Republican side after the major shift to Socialism took place in the Democrat party.

admin — Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:56:31 +0000

On 3/9/2012 10:03 PM, Harold Burton wrote:
> In article <8g4ll7lb9spfenqj2avcu8qu1ddjl1bbnh @&*$?%4ax.com>,
> Free Lunch wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 19:24:33 +0000 (UTC), The truth will set you free
>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>>> Free Lunch wrote in
>>> news:i5ikl790glkc3qov7ior0a88ngiqcvqvcr @&*$?%4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 12:11:09 -0600, “Zacharias Mulletstein”
>>>> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> “Ramon F Herrera” wrote in message
>>>>> news:c85cb6c8-7652-4e26-b26d-daf6b525a84e @&*$?%w29g2000yqw.googlegroups.com…
>>>>>> On Mar 9, 10:07 am, “SaPeIsMa” wrote:
>>>>>>> “noamnesty2000″ wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> news:bca2f362-d189-42c6-9450-a4886b81d47e @&*$?%j5g2000yqm.googlegroups.com.
>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2:26 pm, “Ramon F. Herrera” wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 4:12 pm, “SaPeIsMa” wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> “Not Sure” wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> news:a20e8f49-757d-4e6a-92eb-72df6e80b7b9 @&*$?%p7g2000yqk.googlegroups.
>>>>>>>>>> com…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 7:04 am, “Ramon F. Herrera”
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The left hates ideas (which is fine!).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The right, people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Ramon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You hate Tea Party members, liar. Better luck next time
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The left is the one that hates
>>>>>>>>>> One only has to look at all the venom that comes out of the
>>>>>>>>>> “secular”
>>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> People on the right are more likely to feel pity and contempt
>>>>>>>>>> That’s because hate is a lot of work that actually takes effort
>>>>>>>>>> People on the right prefer to use that effort for more
>>>>>>>>>> constructive
>>>>>>>>>> purposes
>>>>>>>>>> And most of the Christians on the right do try to avoid hating,
>>>>>>>>>> and instead
>>>>>>>>>> try to practice the notion of “loving their neighbor’, no matter
>>>>>>>>>> how hateful
>>>>>>>>>> they may be.
>>>>>>>>>> They may not always succeed, but they do try.
>>>>>>>>>> Those on the left don’t even try at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ALL expressions of hatred toward WHOLE CLASSES of people come from
>>>>>>>>> the right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only ones qualified to make that statement are the victims of
>>>>>>>>> prejudice themselves. Let’s ask them, shall we?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here’s their response:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – Black folks voted for Obama, by a 98% margin.
>>>>>>>>> – Jewish folks voted for Obama, by a 75% margin.
>>>>>>>>> – Hispanic folks voted for Obama, by a 66% margin.
>>>>>>>>> – Oriental folks voted for Obama, by a 63% margin.
>>>>>>>>> – Gay folks voted for Obama, by an unknown margin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Ramon- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is no hate against an entire group. There is however
>>>>>>>> objection to illegal aliens and their supporters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The fist thing would be to ask the source of the numbers that ramone
>>>>>>> spouts
>>>>>>> He has been caught lying before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But even so, It’s always funny to see idiots on the left spout the
>>>>>>> nonsense
>>>>>>> that if you state a TRUTH that they don’t want to hear, then
>>>>>>> automatically
>>>>>>> it’s got to be some SIXHIRB-ism
>>>>>>> If you note that 98% of blacks voted for Obama, that FACT that such a
>>>>>>> STATISTICALLY DISPROPORTIONATE number of “colored” people voted for a
>>>>>>> “colored” candidate does not smack of racism. But that someone noted
>>>>>>> such a
>>>>>>> STATISTICAL DISCREPANCY, is most definitely racism.
>>>>>>> Naturally, the clueless on the left, fail to see that dichotomy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Racism necessarily implies hate. Voting FOR somebody (based on race,
>>>>>> whatever) is an expression of love. Voting AGAINST somebody based on
>>>>>> race is an expression of hatred.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it’s a free choice. I can vote for or against anybody I want to for
>>>>> whatever reason. Does the fact that I’m not going to vote for Romney
>>>>> mean that I hate Him?
>>>>
>>>> It all depends. The Republican Party went out of its way after George
>>>> Wallace’s success to welcome racists and other sorts of bigots into
>>>> their party. The action was called the Southern Strategy and it was very
>>>> successful. It’s been particularly successful because they have hardly
>>>> ever had to pay off those bigots by actually passing laws that the
>>>> bigots want.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You do realize that since there is no such thing as a “free Lunch” you, by
>>> definition, don’t exist.
>>
>> Tell it to the clowns in the right wing who think they can cut tax rates
>> and get more revenue.
>
>
> It worked for JFK.
>
>
> snicker

WE HAD TO MOVE JFK to the Republican side after the major shift to
Socialism took place in the Democrat party.

If BIGGER and more intrusive government were so much better then NORTH KOREA and even Prisons everywhere would be paradise.

admin — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:08:22 +0000

On 1/9/2012 1:28 PM, wy wrote:
> On Jan 9, 12:58 pm, BeamMeUpScotty
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hitler added “socialist” to his party’s name, specifically to confuse
>>>>>>>>>> people.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Works to this day.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Hitler renamed the Party because he wanted to attract nationalists and
>>>>>>>>> proletarians.
>>
>>>>>>>> Yep. Exactly what I said.
>>
>>>>>>>> Continue espousing Hitler’s policies, dude…
>>
>>>>>>> You know the Tea Party does seem to have many things in common with
>>>>>>> Hitler
>>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>>
>>>>>>> Fascism ( /’fæ??z?m/) is a radical authoritarian nationalist
>>>>>>> political ideology.[1][2] It advocates the creation of a totalitarian
>>>>>>> single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation
>>>>>>> through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and family
>>>>>>> policy (such as eugenics).[3][4] This state is led by a supreme leader
>>>>>>> who exercises a dictatorship over the fascist movement, the government
>>>>>>> and other state institutions.[5] Fascist governments forbid and
>>>>>>> suppress opposition.[6] Fascists seek to rejuvenate their nation based
>>>>>>> on commitment to the national community as an organic entity, in which
>>>>>>> individuals are bound together in national identity by suprapersonal
>>>>>>> connections of ancestry, culture, and blood.[7] To achieve this,
>>>>>>> fascists purge forces, ideas, people, and systems deemed to be the
>>>>>>> cause of decadence and degeneration.
>>
>>>>>>> They have just changed a few words. )))))
>>
>>>>>> Oboobuh has his Purple Shirts and Hitler had his Brown Shirts. Obama
>>>>>> wants a civilian army, Hitler had his Hitlerjugend.
>>
>>>>>> Obama uses the 99% to demonizes the rich, demanding social justice.
>>
>>>>> The 99% which is almost all of America and of which you belong to.
>>
>>>>>> Hitler demonized the Jews and used his Brown Shirts to cause trouble.
>>
>>>>>> There is no relative moral equivalence between Conservitive
>>>>>> Republicans and Socialist Progressives.
>>
>>>>> One wants to help working people, the other wants the wealthy to get
>>>>> wealthier…
>>
>>>> What BS.
>>
>>> And yet, that’s what the con-servatives are doing – don’t tax those poor
>>> poor millionaires!
>>
>> You cut the military budget, why would you also tax the rich more?
>
> To pay off the debt quicker? Boy, you’re stoopid.

Then cutting Government Bureaucracy will also cut the debt quicker,
closing the department of education will help pay off the debt. But you
choke on cutting Government like you want to cut the Military.

If you downsize the Military by 25% then do that same thing to the
Bureaucrats in the Federal government, cut the rest of the Federal
government by 25%.

If BIGGER and more intrusive government were so much better then NORTH
KOREA and even Prisons everywhere would be paradise.

>> You were just crowing about car sales being up…. who bought those
>> cars, was it the poor?
>
> It wasn’t only millionaires – they already have all the cars they need
> and more.

Then GM has NO market there and they need to fire union workers.

>> You believe in selling cars but you want to take away the money people
>> used to buy cars?
>
> Are you supposed to be making some sort of sense there?

If you tax the rich more and take their money they can’t buy a car with
money they don’t have…. it’s really simple but then you’re really stupid.

>> You believe in Austerity when it comes to the Military but when it comes
>> to the government bureaucracy, you fight any cuts and are against
>> austerity?
>
> Government bureaucracy needs to grow with the population to serve that
> population effectively, otherwise increased delays and inefficiencies
> will result. You’re not going to be timely and efficient serving a
> population that has increased by 45 million, or by about 15%, in the
> last 15 years if you reduce the bureaucracy at the same time by 15%.
> Boy, you’re stoopid.

The government is there to take care of everyone?

I think I see where you are going wrong. It takes multiple people to
take care of someone. That means the government will need to be many
times larger than the Private sector that it takes care of.

>> You should NOW be trying to cut the bureaucracy, you have cut the
>> military now cut the rest of government. But no that’s not what you
>> want because you aren’t consistent and NOT trying to help America you
>> want to do whet helps the Socialists and cut the Military Government
>> that is generally Republican supporters and expand welfare Government
>> that generally supports the Socialists.
>
> I think America should cut idiots out of its population. By removing
> about 90 million of them, the government can then cut back on its
> bureaucracy big time.

You Socialists always find a section of the population to cut out and
kill, there’s always someone that’s standing between you and your UTOPIA
that you can blame for all societies problems.

90 million to kill is ambitious, Hitler and Stalin and Mao killed people
day and night and couldn’t reach the numbers you seek to achieve.

Do you Socialists have any solution that doesn’t include killing
millions of human lives?

Do you Socialists have any solution that doesn’t include killing human life?

admin — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:05:12 +0000

If you downsize the Military by 25% then do that same thing to the
Bureaucrats in the Federal government, cut the rest of the Federal
government by 25%.

>> You were just crowing about car sales being up…. who bought those
>> cars, was it the poor?
>
> It wasn’t only millionaires – they already have all the cars they need
> and more.

Then GM has NO market there and they need to fire union workers.

>> You believe in selling cars but you want to take away the money people
>> used to buy cars?
>
> Are you supposed to be making some sort of sense there?

If you tax the rich more and take their money they can’t buy a car with
money they don’t have…. it’s really simple but then you’re really stupid.

The government is there to take care of everyone?

I think I see where you are going wrong. It takes multiple people to
take care of someone. That means the government will need to be many
times larger than the Private sector that it takes care of.

>> You should NOW be trying to cut the bureaucracy, you have cut the
>> military now cut the rest of government. But no that’s not what you
>> want because you aren’t consistent and NOT trying to help America you
>> want to do whet helps the Socialists and cut the Military Government
>> that is generally Republican supporters and expand welfare Government
>> that generally supports the Socialists.
>
> I think America should cut idiots out of its population. By removing
> about 90 million of them, the government can then cut back on its
> bureaucracy big time.

You Socialists always find a section of the population to cut out and
kill, there’s always someone that’s standing between you and your UTOPIA
that you can blame for all societies problems.

90 million to kill is ambitious, Hitler and Stalin and Mao killed people
day and night and couldn’t reach the numbers you seek to achieve.

Do you Socialists have any solution that doesn’t include killing
millions of human lives?

McCain endorses Romney, Look forward to Newt surging in the polls – McCain, McLib, McHealtcare

admin — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:58:52 +0000

On 1/9/2012 12:39 AM, RichTravsky wrote:
> emoneyjoe wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 16:25:15 -0700, RichTravsky
>>
wrote:
>>
>>> “CB@PrayForMe.com” wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:28:53 -0800, MattB
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:49:38 -0800 (PST), Phlip >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hitler added “socialist” to his party’s name, specifically to confuse
>>>>>>>> people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Works to this day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hitler renamed the Party because he wanted to attract nationalists and
>>>>>>> proletarians.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. Exactly what I said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Continue espousing Hitler’s policies, dude…
>>>>>
>>>>> You know the Tea Party does seem to have many things in common with
>>>>> Hitler
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
>>>>>
>>>>> Fascism ( /’fÃ¦??z?m/) is a radical authoritarian nationalist
>>>>> political ideology.[1][2] It advocates the creation of a totalitarian
>>>>> single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation
>>>>> through discipline, indoctrination, physical education, and family
>>>>> policy (such as eugenics).[3][4] This state is led by a supreme leader
>>>>> who exercises a dictatorship over the fascist movement, the government
>>>>> and other state institutions.[5] Fascist governments forbid and
>>>>> suppress opposition.[6] Fascists seek to rejuvenate their nation based
>>>>> on commitment to the national community as an organic entity, in which
>>>>> individuals are bound together in national identity by suprapersonal
>>>>> connections of ancestry, culture, and blood.[7] To achieve this,
>>>>> fascists purge forces, ideas, people, and systems deemed to be the
>>>>> cause of decadence and degeneration.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have just changed a few words. )))))
>>>>
>>>> Oboobuh has his Purple Shirts and Hitler had his Brown Shirts. Obama
>>>> wants a civilian army, Hitler had his Hitlerjugend.
>>>>
>>>> Obama uses the 99% to demonizes the rich, demanding social justice.
>>>
>>> The 99% which is almost all of America and of which you belong to.
>>>
>>>> Hitler demonized the Jews and used his Brown Shirts to cause trouble.
>>>>
>>>> There is no relative moral equivalence between Conservitive
>>>> Republicans and Socialist Progressives.
>>>
>>> One wants to help working people, the other wants the wealthy to get
>>> wealthier…
>>>
>> What BS.
>
> And yet, that’s what the con-servatives are doing – don’t tax those poor
> poor millionaires!

You cut the military budget, why would you also tax the rich more?

You were just crowing about car sales being up…. who bought those
cars, was it the poor?

You believe in selling cars but you want to take away the money people
used to buy cars?

You believe in Austerity when it comes to the Military but when it comes
to the government bureaucracy, you fight any cuts and are against
austerity?

You should NOW be trying to cut the bureaucracy, you have cut the
military now cut the rest of government. But no that’s not what you
want because you aren’t consistent and NOT trying to help America you
want to do whet helps the Socialists and cut the Military Government
that is generally Republican supporters and expand welfare Government
that generally supports the Socialists.

You are anti America and PRO Socialist.

It’s real easy to see who you are.

Senator Robt. Byrd…the REAL KKK

admin — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:33:36 +0000

On 1/2/2012 2:29 AM, The Tea Party Should Stick to Celebrating
Unbirthdays wrote:
> On Jan 1, 4:50 pm, ØBAMAGGØT ØCCUPOOPERS < bama A Muslim S&*$?%t Stain
> n Americans @ White House.gov> wrote:
>> wrote in message
>>
>> news:kk6tf7h0b7cea63rj4pc34bfbun8hvapl7 @&*$?%4ax.com…> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:43:23 -0500, “anon” wrote:
>>
>>>> ” I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side …
>>>> Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the
>>>> dirt
>>>> never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded
>>>> by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”
>>>> – Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944,
>>
>>> Bet it pisses ya off that AFTER 1965 he never said that—
>>
>> No, he just used the word Niggers after 1965
>
> And yet you racist rightards never say word one about REPUBLICAN Klan
> leader Daffy Duke.

NOT popular and NOT elected by the Republican Party….. but Kleagle
Byrd was a hero till he died and then he became a Martyr.

Democrats believe in racism, but they believe it must be used for their
own benefit. When it is they support it.

Voters leaving Republican, Democratic parties in droves

admin — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 21:52:25 +0000

> On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 13:22:39 -0800, MattB
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:23:11 -0500, Steve
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:07:05 -0800, MattB
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 19:39:42 +0000 (UTC), 2830 Dead
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:10:21 -0800, MattB wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 01:31:49 -0500, Larry Hewitt
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/26/2011 12:21 AM, MattB wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 04:16:36 +0000 (UTC), 2830 Dead
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:26:06 -0800, MattB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:24:14 +0000 (UTC), 2830 Dead
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:34:50 -0800, MattB wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Voters leaving Republican, Democratic parties in droves
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2011-12-22/voters-
>>>>>>>>> political-
>>>>>>>>>>> parties/52171688/1?csp=obinsite
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More than 2.5 million voters have left the Democratic and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Republican
>>>>>>>>>>>> parties since the 2008 elections, while the number of independent
>>>>>>>>>>>> voters continues to grow.A
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> USA TODAY analysis of state voter registration statistics shows
>>>>>>>>>>>> registered Democrats declined in 25 of the 28 states that register
>>>>>>>>>>>> voters by party. Republicans dipped in 21 states, while
>>>>>>>>>>>> independents increased in 18 states.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The trend is acute in states that are key to next year’s
>>>>>>>>>>>> presidential race. In the eight swing states that register voters
>>>>>>>>>>>> by party, Democrats‘ registration is down by 800,000 and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans’ by 350,000. Independents have gained 325,000.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ************************
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The 2 parties need to become a little less extreme maybe?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The GOP have to be less extreme, and the Dems have to stop
>>>>>>>>>>> surrendering to them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The liberals also need to be less extreme.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You mean, like arguing in favor of individual rights, and demanding
>>>>>>>>> good jobs at good wages?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Think you would find most moderate republicans and most
>>>>>>>> Independents
>>>>>>>> want that. Not a liberal thing at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as I can see a moderate republican is a rare, endangered species.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe those that will run for office. In the general population
>>>>>> there are more they have just been quiet for years. Hopefully the
>>>>>> actions of the freaks in the Tea Party have awaken them. I will never
>>>>>> agree any one party should be in total control as we need a balance in
>>>>>> our government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally I would like it if both parties would move a little more to
>>>>>> the center.
>>>>>
>>>>> They BOTH would have to move to the left to manage that.
>>>>
>>>> You think the Democrats would have to move left? That sounds
>>>> like pure socialism. No not as long as the 2nd Amendment is in force
>>>> will that happen.
>>>
>>> You actually didn’t know you’ve been chumming up with a
>>> socialist?
>>
>>
>> I try not to label people as I have found as long as we have any
>> common ground for discussion there is a chance at compromise.
>

Compromise means that half of what you are doing will always be wrong.

There is a wrong way and a right way, why would you want to be wrong
that much? It’s better to stick with the right way to do something,
why condemn half of your life to always be wrong?

You seek mediocrity….. which is what Socialism seeks, so when you
agree to compromise you are agreeing to Socialism and mediocrity.

On the other hand if you fight the mediocrity and do what works best and
what seeks excellence then when you do achieve the correct solution
everyone is the winner.

Mediocrity and Socialism is an excuse for being lazy and stupid. But in
the USA lazy and stupid are your preference NOT your RIGHT. I am NOT
constitutionally required to pay for your being lazy and stupid.

Obama continues to gain on Romney!

admin — Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:14:28 +0000

On 12/26/2011 3:08 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “NaturalBornCitizen” wrote in message
> news:4ef8cc0e$0$1102$afc38c87 @&*$?%read01.usenet4all.se…
>> On 12/26/2011 10:19 AM, Sid9 wrote:
>>> The only viable opponent Republicans have is Romney and major
>>> factions in
>>> the Republican party don’t like him!
>>>
>>> http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> maybe so but they hate democRATs.
>>
>
> Will you vote for Romney?
>
> Limbo and many Tea Party Republicans call him a liberal and a traitor?
>
> Or….is it Obama’s skin color?

Obamney himself isn’t sure who or what he is…..

IT’S OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Billo the Falafel Rapist is the biggest moron in the Universe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

admin — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:56:22 +0000

On 12/20/2011 8:37 AM, Ringer wrote:
> “BeamMeUpScotty” wrote in
> message news:4EEF7512.10705 @&*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com…
>> On 12/18/2011 7:55 PM, Ringer wrote:
>>> “BeamMeUpScotty” wrote in
>>> message news:4EECFB5C.2000906 @&*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com…
>>>> On 12/17/2011 1:56 PM, Bob Eld wrote:
>>>>> On 12/17/2011 1:28 AM, The Tea Party Should Stick to Celebrating
>>>>> Unbirthdays wrote:
>>>>>> Falafel Rapist bill o’reilly doesn’t know that the military is run by
>>>>>> the U.S. government.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you explain that, you can’t explain it!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who runs NATO, the mercenary army that U.S. taxpayers fund?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> –
>>>> A little Liberalism like a little alcohol, can be a good thing but when
>>>> either of them take control, they become self destructive.
>>>
>>> NATO- North Atlantic Treaty Organization; the key word here is treaty.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The U.N. is a treaty and we “the USA” pay 8-10 times more than any
>> other U.N. member and we pay 60%-80% of NATO….. great treaty.
>>
>> Are we 80% of the North Atlantic?
>
> Actually, we pay 23%, after us Germany pays 16% Compare our economy to
> Germany and see who has the better deal. Where do you get your numbers from?
> Oh, that’s right, you’re a libertarian, you just make them up.
>
>
OUR PAYMENTS START AT 23% and then we pay more depending on the
Mercenary operation. They are *MURDER FOR HIRE*

or *MURDER INC.*

I got it from a Liberal Rag and the Sec Def……

June 10, 2011 1:22 PM

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U.S. soldiers of the PRT (Provincial Reconstruction Team) receive their
French insignia patches following their integration in the French “Task
force La Fayette” at Forward Operating Base Morales-Frazier in Nijrab,
Kapisa province, Afghanistan, January 9, 2010. (Joel Saget/AFP/Getty Images)
(CBS News)

In a speech in Brussels, outgoing U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates
said that America’s military alliance with Europe faces a “dim, if not
dismal” future, owing to what he characterized as the United States‘
*disproportionate funding of NATO operations* , and of allies “willing
and eager for *American taxpayers to assume the growing security* burden
left by *reductions in European defense budgets* .”

In decrying the inability of all NATO members to contribute to
operations, such as enforcing the no-fly zone over Libya, Gates said,
“Frankly, many of those allies sitting on the sidelines do so not
because they do not want to participate, but simply because they can’t.
The *military capabilities simply aren’t there* .”

Gates: Prospects for U.S.-NATO alliance “dim”

The *United States contributes* between one-fifth and *one-quarter* of
*NATO‘s budget*. In FY2010 that contribution totaled $711.8 million.

But *that factors in only direct payments* , *not deployments* of
personnel which – outside of special operations, such as in Afghanistan
or Libya – may be used to train European forces (for example, in
anti-terrorism skills) that benefit U.S. security.

In February NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said that over
the past two years, ” *defense spending by NATO‘s European* member
nations has *shrunk* by some 45 billion dollars” – *the equivalent* of
*Germany‘s entire annual defense* budget.

Gates’ argument that by slashing their defense budgets European
countries are allowing the U.S. to pick up the slack comes when the
*United States is already spending more on defense than all* other
nations on the planet combined, according to Boston University professor
Andrew Bacevich.

NATO funding

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IT’S OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Billo the Falafel Rapist is the biggest moron in the Universe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

admin — Mon, 19 Dec 2011 17:32:02 +0000

On 12/18/2011 7:55 PM, Ringer wrote:
> “BeamMeUpScotty” wrote in
> message news:4EECFB5C.2000906 @&*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com…
>> On 12/17/2011 1:56 PM, Bob Eld wrote:
>>> On 12/17/2011 1:28 AM, The Tea Party Should Stick to Celebrating
>>> Unbirthdays wrote:
>>>> Falafel Rapist bill o’reilly doesn’t know that the military is run by
>>>> the U.S. government.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you explain that, you can’t explain it!
>>
>>
>> Who runs NATO, the mercenary army that U.S. taxpayers fund?
>>
>>
>> –
>> A little Liberalism like a little alcohol, can be a good thing but when
>> either of them take control, they become self destructive.
>
> NATO- North Atlantic Treaty Organization; the key word here is treaty.

The U.N. is a treaty and we “the USA” pay 8-10 times more than any
other U.N. member and we pay 60%-80% of NATO….. great treaty.

Are we 80% of the North Atlantic?

IT’S OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Billo the Falafel Rapist is the biggest moron in the Universe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

admin — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:28:12 +0000

On 12/17/2011 1:56 PM, Bob Eld wrote:
> On 12/17/2011 1:28 AM, The Tea Party Should Stick to Celebrating
> Unbirthdays wrote:
>> Falafel Rapist bill o’reilly doesn’t know that the military is run by
>> the U.S. government.
>>
>>
>
>
> How do you explain that, you can’t explain it!

Who runs NATO, the mercenary army that U.S. taxpayers fund?

Time names ‘The Protester’ as ‘Person of Year’ – Liberalism Glorifies Chaos, Rebellion and the Legion’s Mob Mentality

admin — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:45:46 +0000

On 12/14/2011 11:18 AM, wy wrote:
> On Dec 14, 10:17 am, “C…@PrayForMe.com” wrote:
>
>> Time names ‘The Protester’ as ‘Person of Year’
>>
>
>> Demonic – How the Liberal Mob Is Endangering America
>> By Ann Coulter
>>
>> The demon is a mob, and the mob is demonic. The Democratic Party
>> activates mobs, depends on mobs, coddles mobs, publicizes and
>> celebrates mobs – it is the mob. Sweeping in its scope and relentless
>> in its argument, Demonic explains the peculiarities of liberals as
>> standard groupthink behavior. To understand mobs is to understand
>> liberals.
>>
>> The mob now now has the Chicago mobs copo as its leader, Oboobuh.
>>
>> In her most provocative book to date, Ann Coulter argues that liberals
>> exhibit all the psychological characteristics of a mob…
>
> Wow. I wonder if that applies to the Boston Tea Party. Imagine
> that. The birth of a nation as a result of a demonic mob.

Have you ever heard a *DEMOCRAT* mob complain about taxes being too high?

Republicans can become a mob, when they are subjected to tyranny.

Ok, Now that the GOP Executive Branch Primary Nonsense Is Over & You _Will_ Be Supporting the Establishment Wall Street Banker Candidate Romney . . . . . .

admin — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:17:22 +0000

On 11/26/2011 4:10 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
> It’s time for the Tea Party to focus on Congress and to start
> cleansing the house of the freshmen Tea Party candidates who cut deals
> with the enemy.
>
> Do not accept anything less than complete ideological purity. Karl
> Rove got his way with Romney now it’s your turn to get your way at the
> legislative branch.
>
>
> Bret Cahill
>
>
You confuse ideological purity with ideological sanity.

Tea Party is Hillary’s….

admin — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:03:30 +0000

On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:11:05 -0800, MattB
wrote:

>On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 08:31:01 -0800, “Doc Martian”
> wrote:
>
>>cuz Perot is too pooped to pop.
>
>
> To bad Perot isn’t running or someone like him. Then we’d at least
>have a third choice of Cain wins the nomination. When Cain opens his
>mouth it is like a open sewer it gags a person.
>

You only have one choice…. the one that can dispatch Obama from
the White House, anything less will destroy America.

Tea Party, OWS Protestors Find Common Ground

admin — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:03:02 +0000

On 10/24/2011 7:10 PM, @&*$?%Jurgis.net">Yoorghis @&*$?%Jurgis.net wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:02:50 -0700 (PDT), “f. barnes”
> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 24, 8:36 am, Yoorg…@Jurgis.net wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:38:27 -0700 (PDT), “f. barnes”
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Tea Partiers
>>>> see OWS as being composed of and supported by the same people who
>>>> vilified and denigrated the Tea Party and its members from the git-go.
>>>
>>> Teawhackoffs see things everywhere
>>
>> Like liberals see racists everywhere.
>>
>> Most aren’t there
>
> So–southern conservatives never fought to keep segregation, fought
> the Civil rights act, don’t vote in the “states rights” plank every
> year?
>

*YES DEMOCRATS DID THOSE THINGS*

> The present immigraton nonsense was first opened in AZ by a white
> supremacist sympathizer who crafted the legislation

WAS IT SENATOR BYRD

> The entire platform of the Republican party has built in attacks of
> equal rights, civil rights, and attempts to inject religous c&*$?%p into
> law.

Lincoln and Grant passed the first CIVIL RIGHTS ACT….. and AGAIN IN
1964, it was Republicans that passed civil rights by a larger percent of
them supporting it than the percentage of Democrats.

>
> How is it that YOU don’t see it?

How is it that you are willing to lie about it?

Question Everything

admin — Sat, 22 Oct 2011 18:17:34 +0000

On 10/22/2011 1:20 PM, gordo wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 08:21:46 -0700 (PDT), Tunderbar
> wrote:
>
>> On Oct 22, 7:15 am, Dawlish wrote:
>>> On Oct 21, 10:27 pm, Bill Ward wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:49:51 -0700, Tunderbar wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 21, 3:08 pm, “erschroedin…@gmail.com”
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Oct 21, 3:29 pm, Tunderbar wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone here disagree with this statement?
>>>
>>>>>> So you’re part of the Occupy Wall Street group?
>>>
>>>>> The “Question Authority” concept comes from way back in the 1960′s
>>>>> hippie movement. It has been used by women’s groups, civil liberty
>>>>> groups, democrats, republicans, the Tea Party, the Occupy Wallstreet
>>>>> group. The concept in general is a fundamental aspect of democracies and
>>>>> revolutions alike.
>>>
>>>>> The question is do you agree or not? Should we question authority or
>>>>> not? Is it our right, our duty, or not?
>>>
>>>>> Or should one group of people be selectively given a bye when it comes
>>>>> to questioning their authority? Who? and Why?
>>>
>>>> Is someone trying to question my unquestionable right to question
>>>> authority? The real issue is whether you have to accept the answers you
>>>> get.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>>> – Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> No-one has to. You can just stay as ignorant as you were before -
>>> especially about climate science. Deniers will never accept the
>>> probable facts that research points to and they will never change
>>> their minds, no matter how strong the opposing argument. That’s not
>>> the fault of the scientists who do the research, I can assure you.
>>>
>>> That’s why it’s best just to show you people those facts and then
>>> laugh at you for not even considering them, you are so blinkered.
>>>
>>>
>>> PS Go on, mention Miskolczi
>>
>> With regards to the Climate Bible, the IPCC last reports:
>>
>> – 28 out of 44 chapters (two-thirds) included at least one individual
>> affiliated with the WWF
>>
>> – 100% of the chapters in Working Group 2 – all 20 of them – included
>> at least 1 WWF-affiliated scientist
>>
>> – 15 out of 44 chapters (one-third) were led by WWF-affiliated
>> scientists – their coordinating lead authors belong to the panel
>>
>> – in three instances, chapters were led by two WWF-affiliated
>> coordinating lead authors
>
> Its a non profit organization. They do science. Their scientists
> publish in science journals.
>
>
> Scientists from around the world are affiliated with the non profit
> WWF. I have the highest respect for those scientists who give time and
> effort to this unique organization.

They all have an agenda.

THE OCCUPIERS = The Democrat’s Tea Party! Cain, Cantor Cringin’, As Obama Finds New Allies!

admin — Tue, 18 Oct 2011 18:48:00 +0000

On 10/18/2011 10:53 AM, Hu Jintao wrote:
> It nice you former president has learned to use computer. I recall
> when he no had seen bar codes.
>
> And we laugh when he throw up on Japanese dignitaries at state dinner!
>
> We in China can not wait to see him jump out of airplane again.

So you’re easily amused?

You can’t serve 2 masters! Ayn Rand or Jesus?

admin — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:01:08 +0000

On 9/30/2011 1:03 PM, USA Lover wrote:
> 8/13/2011
> Is Christo-Libertarianism a contradiction?
>
> First: The definition. Christo hyphenated with Libertarianism.
> Religious belief combined with the economics of Laissez Faire
> Capitalism. Emanates from Calvinist Prosperity Gospel.
> Now you know the definition of this bizarre political hybrid of the
> Christian right. Let’s examine the many contradictions. As you know,
> libertarians are advocates of prostitution, gambling, abortion, Gay
> Marriage and the legalization of drugs. Fundamentalist Christians? Not
> so much! One contradiction that Christo-Libertarians advocate is the
> notion that the government has no right to regulated corporations.
> However, when it comes to sex, the government has the right to control
> the way you express your sexuality if it’s against the precepts of the
> Bible. In other words, the government has a right to be in your
> bedroom.

Not entirely true….

I am NOT a Christian but I’ll play one on the internet, Christians Don‘t
want others “Sexuality forced on them” the fact you are gay is NOT a
problem for a Christian they don’t want to stone you, if a problem
arises it’s within yourself. I think they’ll watch you burn in hell
and just say “too bad so sad”.

What makes “you” think sex with children is evil?

Consent or coercion, there are things that are NOT natural and NOT
beneficial…. Not that they need to be banned, but like sex with
children they probably shouldn’t be promoted by government.

> The truth is: Libertarianism is closer to the Church of Satan than
> the Church of Jesus Christ. Satanists believe in irrationality of
> selfishness.

Libertarians aren’t calling for people to attack their neighbors and do
harm to anyone that opposes them, Democrats, Atheists and Socialists are.

> If someone gets in your way, you have every right to kill
> that someone.

Projecting your own beliefs onto Libertarians doesn’t make “YOU” any better.

> Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism believed in
> rationale selfishness, which meant if someone gets in your way, walk
> around him or her then sue him or her. An Individual is the center of
> the universe. Nowhere in the King James Bible expresses that
> sentiment.

All enlightenment doesn’t begin or end with the Bible. Some of us have
a brain! In so much as you percieve the world around you, you are the
center of “your” universe. You will never conceive or know of MY
universe so Ayn was correct. You can’t grasp or know everything that’s
happening right now in the universe and will never know that universe…
all you know is what you have personally consumed of the universe and
the rest is NOT even there.

> Matter of fact: Ayn Rand was a fervent atheist.

Good for her and hopefully that made her happy because that’s what
“Life, Liberty and Happiness” is about. There is NOTHING saying she has
to be correct or rational either.

> She was adamant believer in Godless Capitalism.

And Capitalism didn’t care!

> She detested American
> conservatives because of their stand supporting Christian morality.

supporting morality isn’t unconstitutional, legislating it might be.

There is a difference between Libertarianism and Supporting the
Constitution. the Libertarian Philosophy isn’t fully compatible with
the constitution but it is maybe the closest government design to the
Libertarian ideal.

> She didn’t like the Libertarian Party that much. She denounced them in
> 1973. If she were alive today, she would also denounce the Tea Party
> movement.

Presumption…. and does it matter? I am a Tea Party supporter
Libertarians are closest to my ideological values and I’m NOT of any
Religion.

What you ignore is that Democrat, Liberal, Socialists are so far away
from Libertarians that they make Christians look RATIONAL.

When it comes to zealots, the Leftists are far more irrational and
committed to their Utopian beliefs.

You can’t serve 2 masters! Ayn Rand or Jesus?

admin — Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:01:08 +0000

Not entirely true….

What makes “you” think sex with children is evil?

Consent or coercion, there are things that are NOT natural and NOT
beneficial…. Not that they need to be banned, but like sex with
children they probably shouldn’t be promoted by government.

> The truth is: Libertarianism is closer to the Church of Satan than
> the Church of Jesus Christ. Satanists believe in irrationality of
> selfishness.

Libertarians aren’t calling for people to attack their neighbors and do
harm to anyone that opposes them, Democrats, Atheists and Socialists are.

> If someone gets in your way, you have every right to kill
> that someone.

Projecting your own beliefs onto Libertarians doesn’t make “YOU” any better.

> Matter of fact: Ayn Rand was a fervent atheist.

Good for her and hopefully that made her happy because that’s what
“Life, Liberty and Happiness” is about. There is NOTHING saying she has
to be correct or rational either.

> She was adamant believer in Godless Capitalism.

And Capitalism didn’t care!

> She detested American
> conservatives because of their stand supporting Christian morality.

supporting morality isn’t unconstitutional, legislating it might be.

> She didn’t like the Libertarian Party that much. She denounced them in
> 1973. If she were alive today, she would also denounce the Tea Party
> movement.

Presumption…. and does it matter? I am a Tea Party supporter
Libertarians are closest to my ideological values and I’m NOT of any
Religion.

What you ignore is that Democrat, Liberal, Socialists are so far away
from Libertarians that they make Christians look RATIONAL.

When it comes to zealots, the Leftists are far more irrational and
committed to their Utopian beliefs.

Super Rich Pays Only 17.4% as Income Tax. This is How Bushites, GOP and Tea Party Screwed the Country Big Time.

admin — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 17:23:25 +0000

On 9/7/2011 2:15 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> RD Sandman wrote:
>> Beam Me Up Scotty @&*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
>
>>> Looking at this 17.4%, you might say that the poor are causing the
>>> NATION to fall short of it’s potential…. since that 17.4 from the rich
>>> is 90% of all Federal income tax.
>>
>> The top 1% pay about 40% of the income tax.
>
> And own about half of the country.
>
> But rightards are malicious morons who DEMAND higher taxes and fees
> for themselves so that the rich can get even richer.

So you are thinking that if you stop the rich from making money, you
might have a chance to make money? After all, there is only so much
money and if they make more you have to earn less?

Are you retarded?

Super Rich Pays Only 17.4% as Income Tax. This is How Bushites, GOP and Tea Party Screwed the Country Big Time.

admin — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 15:39:47 +0000

On 9/6/2011 2:47 PM, RD Sandman wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty @&*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in
> news:4E6287A5.6040300 @&*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking at this 17.4%, you might say that the poor are causing the
>> NATION to fall short of it’s potential…. since that 17.4 from the rich
>> is 90% of all Federal income tax.
>
> The top 1% pay about 40% of the income tax. The top 25% pay about 85% of
> the income tax.
>
> At least that was the case in 2006 and 2007.

That makes the top 25% “THE RICH” and the rich pay 17.4% tax rate?
All rough figures…..

That means the poor(other 75%) need to pay more to make up for their
lack of work that supports America. Either that or throw them out and
make them expatriates. We don’t need more losers, we have enough and
they are at present 75% of the population.

US Teamster Labor Leader Hoffa Threatens Mob Violence Against Tea Party

admin — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:39:28 +0000

On 9/6/2011 12:45 PM, Bible Studies with Satan wrote:
> Clyde Armstrong wrote:
>
>> In a warm-up speech for Barack Obama, Democrat Teamster leader ant
>> thug, Jimmy Hoffa,
>
> Let’s roll! I’d love nothing more than for the unions to get violent again. Time
> to bust up some millionaires!

Where will you get a job tomorrow, after you chase the millionaires out
of the country with your hate and violence?

What business can you work at that costs less than a million to start?

Tea Party Activists Call For Another War Of 1812 Over Toronto Having Clinton And Gore Intersection

admin — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:07:36 +0000

On 9/5/2011 10:07 AM, Zebulon Pike wrote:
> This is an outrage!
>
> What’s next? Montreal having the intersection of Stalin and Pol Pot St?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3fok4gy
>
> What’s wrong with having an intersection of D&*$?%k and Cheney Strets?
>

Clinton and Gore streets would be parallel, one needs to be an
Avenue…. Both will be dead ends with many pot holes through which to
pour taxpayer funds.

SuperMan for president?

admin — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:35:17 +0000

On 9/5/2011 10:50 AM, Waldo wrote:
> Based on Tea Party writings, people like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah
> Palin, grammatically incorrect protest signs, conservative right wing
> extremists have been determined to have the lowest I.Q.’s of most
> Americans.

Basing your total view of someones IQ on a sign with questionable
grammar, would seem to show a lack of IQ on your part.

Super Rich Pays Only 17.4% as Income Tax. This is How Bushites, GOP and Tea Party Screwed the Country Big Time.

admin — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:01:41 +0000

Looking at this 17.4%, you might say that the poor are causing the
NATION to fall short of it’s potential…. since that 17.4 from the rich
is 90% of all Federal income tax.

Therefore the poor should pay 50% or more to make up for their lack of
producing wealth.

The wealthy should pay less tax for all their good work in creating
wealth in this Nation that they have done. Being the home of the
largest number of millionaires/billionaires is a positive attribute.

If you produce more company receipts for your corporation/business you
get more money(bonus) and fewer company restrictions/bosses and more
promotions. The Federal Government does just the opposite and they give
the slackers more money back and less restrictions and make life harder
for the ones creating all the receipts into the COMPANY(Nation).

It’s no wonder America is failing when you see that they have the
opposite policies of the policies that create success.

When “you” achieve at work your company should assign more regulation
and oversight to you and demote you by giving you another boss over you
and cut your pay, and then lets see how long they stay financially sound.

Perry Will Probably Be the GOP Candidate

admin — Fri, 12 Aug 2011 23:39:30 +0000

On 8/12/2011 6:18 PM, The PHANTOM wrote:
> On Aug 12, 12:23 pm, Bible Studies with Satan
> wrote:
>> Bret Cahill wrote:
>>> Romney has two large somewhat overlapping factions against him: the
>>> religious right and the Tea Party.
>>
>>> The Tea Party has concerns about Perry but they don’t hate him as much
>>> as they hate Romney.
>>
>>> As far as Bachmann is concerned the GOP establishment has already
>>> pulled the plug on her and even pundits had finally started saying
>>> what they knew all along about Palin. She never was serious about
>>> actually running.
>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> Texas hates Perry. He’ll never take the nomination with that much headwind.

Uh HUH, that’s why they elected him…… They hate him. I just love
it when people make sense.

Sad and pathetic rightwingers trying to blame Obama for their budget ceiling stunt & resulting credit rating downgrade

admin — Wed, 10 Aug 2011 06:25:43 +0000

On 8/9/2011 3:27 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “ J&*$?%a” wrote in message
> news:Nnf0q.205$645.113 @&*$?%newsfe01.iad…
>> Did the downgrade happen on his watch, or didn’t it?
>>
>
> .
> .
> There’s no cause and effect relationship.
> The Republican Tea Party created the crisis and blackmailed our government

Obama wasted trillions of dollars…. that looks like a “cause” the
effect is no more credit cards.

American Debt Ceiling Crisis Easy To Understand–Even For Economic Ignorant Leftists

admin — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:35:42 +0000

On 7/19/2011 10:47 AM, The Doctor wrote:
> In article <3c93b00d-678d-4d82-8f17-abbcf12b7317 @&*$?%q5g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> Travis wrote:
>> Here is the explanation. The U.S. Obama Democrat-controlled federal
>> government has to borrow 40% of every
>> dollar it now spends–on everything. All leftitsts including Obama and
>> his Democrats, even rhino Repulicans, should know that this is a
>> very, very bad situation. It is entirely unacceptable. Just imagine if
>> you in your own life had to borrow 40% of money needed to buy
>> everything your needed: your food, your clothes, your gas at the pump,
>> your municipal taxes, your electricity bill, your heating bill etc.
>> You could not do it. Other people you deal with would just not let you
>> do it.
>>
>> Now, Obama and his demagogues want to increase this 40% borrowing on
>> all all their expenditures to 45%, 50%,
>> 60% of God know what. Right wing conservatives want to decrease the
>> rate of this borrowing with a debt ceiling.
>> folled by decreased spending. Now who is right?
>>
>> If a person heavily in debt, begins to decrease his spending and to
>> sell off some of his non essential assets this
>> does not mean castrastophe for him. It is all for his good and future
>> happiness. The same woud be true for the U.S.
>> The right-wing Repulicans (or Tea Party) are right. Obama is dead
>> wrong.
>>
>> So Americans be warned. No more increases in your debt or you will be
>> the next Greece, Portugal or Italy. What Obama and his despicable,
>> Democrat mob are now doing is trying to panic Americans into believing
>> that there
>> will be a general collapse of the American economy if the government
>> cannot borrow still more. But this is dishonest. Everyone knows that
>> the liberals are liars. It is time to vote this radical mob out of
>> office.
>>
>>
>
> And thank the Republican Tax cuts for the whole mess.

Obama would be spending 40% more had there been no tax cuts, you
Socialists spend all of the money you steal and then you borrow and
print more and you always collapse the economy around the people that
you stole from.

You use up the Natural resources and then you use up the people and then
you collapse the economy and then you steal the peoples freedom and
treat them as chattel.

Michelle Bachman’s an Odious Welfare Queen. But Her Stupidity is Amusing.

admin — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 20:31:16 +0000

On 7/3/2011 1:27 PM, Kennewick Man; the first, the BEST! wrote:
> On Jul 3, 12:05 pm, Ramon F Herrera wrote:
>> On Jul 3, 10:26 am, “£Æ§RÐÄ$$©” wrote:
>>
>> > The media jackals have been all over Representative Michele
>> > Bachmann for alterations to history as she kicked off her
>> presidential
>> > run in Waterloo, Iowa, home to serial killer John Wayne Gacy, not
>> the
>> > actor John Wayne, as she said in her evocation of dreamy small-town
>> life.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/27/michele-bachmann-john-wayne_…
>>
>> Being a Palin mini-me, the more idiotic statements she makes, the more
>> she will be revered by the type of folks who hang around the Tea
>> Party.
>>
>> America to the teabaggers: “So, this is the very BEST you have to
>> offer?”
>>
>> -Ramon
>
> Admit it. You liberals live in mortal terror of either women or these
> two woman.

They fear that a Republican woman will be President before a Democrat
woman is, that would allow people to think Democrats aren’t the “only”
party of all races and Genders.

For Democrats it’s a case of Slogans, Facades and propaganda, they hated
Palin because she was going to be the first female VICE PRESIDENT so
they pulled out all the stops to destroy her chances. Now they are
protecting the same….

Rest assured Joe Biden will be dropped and Hillary or some other female
will be Vice President on the Obama ticket and The Press and Democrats
will relentlessly attack any Republican woman with Presidential or vice
presidential aspirations…..

Teabaggers eat their own

admin — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 02:20:41 +0000

On 7/24/2010 9:47 PM, Michael Price wrote:
> On Jul 20, 7:19 pm, Cliff
> wrote:
>> http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/19/tea.party.imbroglio/?iref=polt…
>> [
>> Political bickering within the conservative Tea Party movement intensified
>> Monday as a representative of one group, the Tea Party Express, ridiculed a
>> decision by another, the National Tea Party Federation, to expel the Express
>> from its ranks.
>> ]
>>
>> So much for free speech, eh?
>> –
>> Cliff
>
> So ridiculing someone is not free speech now? How about throwing
> someone out of a job because they said something obnoxious is that
> free speech?

We take off points for easy targets…..

US Opinion – “it seems logical that more guns are not the answer”

admin — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:37:17 +0000

On 7/24/2010 1:07 PM, birdog wrote:
> “Phil Smythe” wrote in message
> news:a7d0db6b-513d-4cdf-a00b-17701570fc83 @&*$?%x1g2000prc.googlegroups.com…
>> More guns not answer to nation’s gun problem
>> By James C. Bailey, Jr. Guest opinion
>> Posted: 07/23/2010 10:21:16 PM MDT
>>
>> I was bemused by your front page article, “Police arrest woman in
>> shooting,” Saturday, July 17, 2010, and a letter to the editor in the
>> same edition, “Shooting ranges: Strengthening national security” by
>> Quentin McKenna.
>>
>> The 19-year-old woman cited in the headline was involved in an
>> “accidental” shooting at a Fourth of July party that killed a 21-year-
>> old man. She and the victim were admiring his weapon, which she
>> thought was unloaded. She shot him in the face and killed him the
>> process.
>>
>> Mr. McKenna argues in his letter that we should divert money from our
>> “adventurism abroad” and build more shooting ranges, which he feels
>> would encourage “safe and responsible gun ownership” and “help
>> strengthen the security of a free state as enumerated (sic) in the
>> Second.” Mr. McKenna bolsters this argument by citing what the Swiss
>> have done with their defense budget. I’m not sure that a neutral
>> country like Switzerland and what it does with its defense budget
>> would be a good model for a country like ours, given lack of
>> neutrality and our worldwide activities versus those of the Swiss.
>>
>> First, I would agree that we should discontinue our “adventurism
>> abroad” — immediately.
>>
>> Second, except for people in thrall to the gun lobby (five-ninths of
>> the Supreme Court, for example) or emotionally attached to their
>> weapons, I’m not sure how anyone can read the full Second Amendment (A
>> well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
>> state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be
>> infringed.) as anything but the need to be able to quickly form a
>> militia to defend their young country. (They were rightfully worried
>> about: Indians who may have been a little aggravated by all the
>> illegal immigrants pouring into their country; the British who we had
>> just defeated with an illegal insurgency; and others who may have
>> thought they had prior claims to the “New World” like the Spanish and
>> French who were already on this continent.) I’m guessing that the
>> majority of the current Second Amendment activists would hesitate
>> joining a “well regulated militia.” Given our national military
>> strength and state run national guards, I think we can rest assured
>> that we are safe from Indian uprisings or attacks by the Spanish or
>> French and no longer need, or want, “citizen militias.”
>>
>> Third, the language of Second Amendment is as outdated as the intent.
>> “Arms” are now defined as “any instrument used in fighting.” With a
>> literal interpretation, one could only wonder what the headline would
>> have been if the woman would have been admiring the man’s
>> thermonuclear device or hellfire missile? Guns are not mentioned
>> anywhere in the Second Amendment, and I don’t think we want the Young
>> Republican college students in the rental next door storing WMDs.
>>
>> Fourth, the argument that we need to be armed to protect ourselves
>> from an overreaching government is ridiculous. The government,
>> overreaching or not, has tanks, jets, Predator drones and other
>> dangerous weapons that would send the Tea Party scurrying into Boston
>> Harbor.
>>
>> I don’t pretend to know the answer to the gun problem in this country,
>> but it seems logical that more guns are not the answer. The NRA (and
>> it’s supporters) might argue that if everyone at that Fourth of July
>> party had their own gun they wouldn’t have to admire each others
>> weapons and therefore, presto, no accidental shooting. I might suggest
>> if they were playing with sparklers instead of guns there would have
>> been no shooting either.
>>
>> Two young people have had their lives changed forever: one dead, the
>> other charged with manslaughter and bearing some emotional trauma from
>> the event. These so-called “accidents” are a daily occurrence in this
>> country, and the statistics seem to bear out that gun owners are more
>> likely to shoot someone they know (accidentally) or themselves
>> (accidentally or intentionally) than someone they are defending
>> themselves against. I’m not sure the average American male, especially
>> if alcohol or drugs are involved, is mature enough to handle deadly
>> force.
>>
>> Guns are made for killing. They are not, by design, meant to be
>> “safe.”
>>
>> http://www.dailycamera.com/ci_15586748
>
> The point of this seems to be that you want guns banned from the general
> population. You say you have no solution, but the negative tilt toward gun
> ownership belies that statement There is an Amendment process in the
> Constitution, should the general population ever agree with your view. We
> do, however, have an administration in Washington right now, supported by
> progressives on the SC, that has no concern whatever with any restriction
> imposed on the federal government by the Constitution.
>
> John Lott, among others, has published stistics regarding the use of private
> arms to prevent crimes, but these are inconvenient, and therefore ignored.
> Match this with the accidental deaths.
>
> As regards the use of small arms against tanks, I am reminded of the old
> saw – you don’t stand in the middle of the road and shoot at a tank with a
> 30-30. Nature demands that whoever drives the tank must eventually get out!
> Simplistic, yes, but there what – 50 million private gun owners in the US?
> Pulled that figure out of my ear – there are probably more than that. Except
> for professional soldiers, of which there are few, I seriously doubt that
> citizen-soldiers would be willing to slaughter their fellow citizens. The
> Civil war? Demographics are drastically different than in 1861. As are the
> issues.
>
> We have become two countries with different values, governed by a single
> government with values that favor only one side. “A house divided”. It

That was the reason for States rights, SO that we could Live differently
depending on how and where we lived. When States rights were stolen from
the States(1865) and the Federal Power filled that space, that sealed
our FATE to the next civil war(here now) just as it created the first
civil war…. Some people want to tell everyone else how to live and
some want to be left alone to live their own life. In the USA of the
here and now, we live under those that want to inflict their will on the
entire NATION, we have been living since the first civil war with those
that try to micromanage and HOMOGENIZE us to all live the exact same
lives(socialism).

Leftists say they like diversity and then as in Government schools they
kill diversity using regulations that create an homogenized system of
outcome based education that is designed to guarantee that we’re all the
same on graduation day….. Why else did #Obama end school vouchers?
Private schools allow for diversity, diversity is the enemy of #Socialism.

What if the Tea Party was Black?

admin — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:27:57 +0000

On 7/15/2010 10:42 PM, Stiffy Banana wrote:

> What if the Tea Party was Black?

It is black, brown, yellow, white, olive….. and anyone who believes
government is out of control.

Do they all love each other… it’s NOT a requirement of the tea party,
that we all sit around a campfire and sing Koom-Bay-Ya.

The Tea party isn’t a Liberal politically correct entity….. The tea
party has no interest in micromanaging your every thought.

If “you” hate whites, and want to “kill all they Cracker babies” then
you can still be against bloated government and with the Tea Party…..
just don’t bring all your personal issues to the tea party. The Tea
Party doesn’t want to hear your personal problems. The Tea party
doesn’t send out an army of LAWYERS and Detectives to pour over your
background to see if you are a pedophile or Gay or Klan member. That
would be what the Leftists in the *Democrat Party* do. Democrats look
for issues to use against you and to divide you from the issues.

Libs trying to COPY Tea Party

admin — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:09:51 +0000

On 7/12/2010 2:01 PM, lab~rat >:-) wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:48:52 -0700 (PDT), Salty Stan
> puked:
>
>> On Jul 12, 5:50 am, Foxtrot wrote:
>>> 1/AR201…
>>>
>>> If imitation is the highest form of flattery, the “tea party” movement
>>> must be honored.
>>>
>>> In an effort to replicate the tea party’s success, 170 liberal and civil
>>> rights groups are forming a coalition that they hope will match the
>>> movement’s political energy and influence. They promise to “counter
>>> the tea party narrative”
>>>
>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>>
>>> Remember how libs tried to marginalize the Tea Party?
>>>
>>> Libs believe in oligarchy, total ironclad central control. It’ll be fun
>>> to watch them pretend to be a grassroots movement.
>>
>> Right, the libs want order their minions to organize a grass-roots
>> movement.
>>
>> Remember when they to imitate a counter part to Rush Limbaugh? We got
>> “Air America”.
>
> I miss Air America. It was hilarious watching a group of hateful,
> no-talent hacks pretend to play radio…

I miss their Air America omnipotent style of looking down on everyone…

On the bright side….. MSNBC is full of omnipotent progressives that
see us all out here as being the ignorant unwashed masses.

Obama and The Communist Party Are SOOOOO :Pro-Business

admin — Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:07:47 +0000

On 7/12/2010 7:23 AM, Lifsabsurd wrote:
> http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/09/smallbusiness/irs_1099_flood/
>
> They slipped it in to Obamacare? Well, they did say it would be
> passed before we knew what was in it.
>
> If it weren’t so tragic, it might be funny. Obama is now claiming to
> be pro-business. Businessmen’s lower jaws are dragging on their shoes
> in absolute astonishment at such a blatant LIE.

Obama has Never met a payroll, he knows nothing of Capitalism and the
Tea Party needs to concentrate on getting people that have met a payroll.

College educated people that don’t go into business and don’t meet a
payroll have NEVER completed their education, they are purely into
theoretical life surrounded in a cocoon of academia and have no clue of
what the *real world* is like. Obama is the perfect example. The tea
Party needs to seek out those that have met a payroll and know how
*AMERICANS* make their way through life, whereas people like Obama don’t
understand how or why America works the way it does.

Re: Must Be the Tea Party Terrorists Again

admin — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 01:25:10 +0000

> Lifsabsurd wrote:
>> http://www.bayoubuzz.com/buzz/latest-buzz/10729-gulf-oil-moratorium-judge-threatened
>>
>>
>> Good littel Communists (Democrats) would never try to overthrow the
>> rule of law.

There is no longer any “rule of law” That is the main Objective of the
Progressive-Socialists.

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Fri, 21 May 2010 02:50:18 +0000

On 5/20/2010 9:13 PM, Salty Stan wrote:
> On May 19, 12:59 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Everyth…@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 5/18/2010 3:35 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>> news:efd403a3-dfea-4b37-9ea1-50975a6602b5 @&*$?%j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com…
>>>> On May 18, 1:32 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>
>>>>> news:4b10dacd-e4bb-48b8-ad0e-d99faaadb017 @&*$?%v18g2000vbc.googlegroups.com…
>>
>>>>>> On May 17, 6:05 pm, Salty Stan wrote:
>>>>>>> On May 17, 5:29 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>
>>>>>> news:c5f817fe-16cd-4d09-b784-65304c0f4f51 @&*$?%p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com…
>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 17, 1:19 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>
>>>>>>> news:76282855-580a-4226-a176-35a0b36b5825 @&*$?%b21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com…
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You’re right,Greeceis a Leftist Nirvana….
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any
>>>>>>>>>>>> facts.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called >>
>>>>>>>>> “sarcasm”
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> expose your lack of argument. Look it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> –
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer
>>>>>>>>>>>> rfisc…@sonic.net
>>
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>> Wealthy Greeks CHEAT their fellow citizen by evading their
>>>>> taxes.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Is that right? By how much?
>>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> Enough to wreckGreece’seconomy.
>>
>>>>>>> No really, how much?
>>
>>>>>>> And then how much isGreecein debt?
>>
>>>>>>> And which is larger?
>>
>>>>>> Sid, where’d ya go? Sid? Hello?
>>
>>>>>> Anybody seen Sid9?
>>
>>>>> .
>>>>> .
>>>>> Have you read the article on how the wealthy ofGreececheat and fail
>>>>> to pay
>>>>> the taxes that would keepGreecesolvent?
>>
>>>>> Ans: No.
>>
>>>> I don’t know which article you’re referring to, but since you
>>>> obviously have, perhaps you can clear up some issues. How much is the
>>>> total amount the wealthy in default? And how much is the Greek debt?
>>
>>>> Please put the answers here —>
>>
>>>> _______________________________________
>>
>>> .
>>> .
>>> I’ve answered elsewhere…I don’t do pissing contest so get lost!
>>
>> Sid could copy and paste like Harry the other Socialist Propagandist
>> here does.
>>
>> Too bad Sid got caught with his pants down…. again.
>>
>> Those FACTS on GREECE sure would look good here_________?
>
> Sid? Where’s Sid? He’s disappeared!
>
> Gee I hope nothing happened to him.

He put on a diaper and is frantically driving NONstop to San Francisco
to scare his gay lovers boy friend.

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Wed, 19 May 2010 16:59:09 +0000

On 5/18/2010 3:35 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
> news:efd403a3-dfea-4b37-9ea1-50975a6602b5 @&*$?%j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com…
>> On May 18, 1:32 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:4b10dacd-e4bb-48b8-ad0e-d99faaadb017 @&*$?%v18g2000vbc.googlegroups.com…
>>>
>>>
>>> > On May 17, 6:05 pm, Salty Stan wrote:
>>> >> On May 17, 5:29 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>>
>>> >>
>>> >news:c5f817fe-16cd-4d09-b784-65304c0f4f51 @&*$?%p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com…
>>>
>>>
>>> >> > > On May 17, 1:19 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>> >> > >> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>>
>>> >> >
>>> >>news:76282855-580a-4226-a176-35a0b36b5825 @&*$?%b21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com…
>>>
>>>
>>> >> > >> > On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>> >> > >> >> Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> >> > >> >>
>>> >> > >> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > >> > -
>>> >> > >> >> >>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>>
>>> >> > >> >> >> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people
>>> >> > >> >> >> should
>>> >> > >> >> >> just
>>> >> > >> >> >> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>>
>>> >> > >> >> >You’re right,Greeceis a Leftist Nirvana….
>>>
>>> >> > >> >> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any
>>> >> > >> >> facts.
>>>
>>> >> > >> > Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called >>
>>> > >> > “sarcasm”
>>> >> > >> > to
>>> >> > >> > expose your lack of argument. Look it up.
>>> >> > >> >> –
>>> >> > >> >> Ray Fischer
>>> >> > >> >> rfisc…@sonic.net
>>>
>>> >> > >> .
>>> >> > >> .
>>> >> > >> Wealthy Greeks CHEAT their fellow citizen by evading their
>>> taxes.
>>>
>>> >> > > Is that right? By how much?
>>>
>>> >> > .
>>> >> > .
>>> >> > Enough to wreckGreece’seconomy.
>>>
>>> >> No really, how much?
>>>
>>> >> And then how much isGreecein debt?
>>>
>>> >> And which is larger?
>>>
>>> > Sid, where’d ya go? Sid? Hello?
>>>
>>> > Anybody seen Sid9?
>>>
>>> .
>>> .
>>> Have you read the article on how the wealthy ofGreececheat and fail
>>> to pay
>>> the taxes that would keepGreecesolvent?
>>>
>>> Ans: No.
>>
>> I don’t know which article you’re referring to, but since you
>> obviously have, perhaps you can clear up some issues. How much is the
>> total amount the wealthy in default? And how much is the Greek debt?
>>
>> Please put the answers here —>
>>
>> _______________________________________
>
> .
> .
> I’ve answered elsewhere…I don’t do pissing contest so get lost!

Sid could copy and paste like Harry the other Socialist Propagandist
here does.

Too bad Sid got caught with his pants down…. again.

Those FACTS on GREECE sure would look good here_________?

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Tue, 18 May 2010 17:42:05 +0000

On 5/18/2010 12:36 PM, Salty Stan wrote:
> On May 17, 6:05 pm, Salty Stan wrote:
>> On May 17, 5:29 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>
>>> news:c5f817fe-16cd-4d09-b784-65304c0f4f51 @&*$?%p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com…
>>
>>>> On May 17, 1:19 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>
>>>>> news:76282855-580a-4226-a176-35a0b36b5825 @&*$?%b21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com…
>>
>>>>>> On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>
>>>>>>>>> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people should
>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>
>>>>>>>> You’re right, Greece is a Leftist Nirvana….
>>
>>>>>>> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any facts.
>>
>>>>>> Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called “sarcasm” to
>>>>>> expose your lack of argument. Look it up.
>>>>>>> –
>>>>>>> Ray Fischer
>>>>>>> rfisc…@sonic.net
>>
>>>>> .
>>>>> .
>>>>> Wealthy Greeks CHEAT their fellow citizen by evading their taxes.
>>
>>>> Is that right? By how much?
>>
>>> .
>>> .
>>> Enough to wreck Greece‘s economy.
>>
>> No really, how much?
>>
>> And then how much is Greece in debt?
>>
>> And which is larger?
>>
>>
>
>
> Sid, where’d ya go? Sid? Hello?
>
> Anybody seen Sid9?

~~getting his diaper change… something made him s&*$?%t his pants.~~

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Tue, 18 May 2010 17:30:18 +0000

On 5/18/2010 1:24 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>> On 5/18/2010 12:34 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>>> On 5/18/2010 12:59 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>> Salty Stan wrote:
>>>>>> On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people should just
>>>>>>>>> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You’re right, Greece is a Leftist Nirvana….
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called “sarcasm” to
>>>>>
>>>>> … avoid providing any facts.
>>>>
>>>> Going to the moon seems like it was easier than enlightening just one
>>>> Socialist.
>>>
>>> And there’s more of the usual political bigotry that the rightard uses
>>> to avoid thinking. It understands nothing but hate.
>>>
>> That would be why I understand Socialism so well?
>
> You don’t even knwo what the word means, rightard. All you have is
> hate propaganda to parrot.

That’s Socialism….

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Tue, 18 May 2010 16:46:16 +0000

On 5/18/2010 12:34 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>> On 5/18/2010 12:59 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
>>> Salty Stan wrote:
>>>> On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> -
>>>>>>>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people should just
>>>>>>> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>>>>
>>>>>> You’re right, Greece is a Leftist Nirvana….
>>>>>
>>>>> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any facts.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called “sarcasm” to
>>>
>>> … avoid providing any facts.
>>
>> Going to the moon seems like it was easier than enlightening just one
>> Socialist.
>
> And there’s more of the usual political bigotry that the rightard uses
> to avoid thinking. It understands nothing but hate.
>
That would be why I understand Socialism so well?

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Tue, 18 May 2010 15:36:28 +0000

On 5/18/2010 12:59 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> Salty Stan wrote:
>> On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> -
>>>>>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>>
>>>>> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people should just
>>>>> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>>
>>>> You’re right, Greece is a Leftist Nirvana….
>>>
>>> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any facts.
>>>
>>
>> Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called “sarcasm” to
>
> … avoid providing any facts.

Going to the moon seems like it was easier than enlightening just one
Socialist. The hours we spend…..

Greece is truly the shining city on the hill, the socialists Utopia.

The ignorance displayed here can take away all HOPE. It’s posts like
this that encourage people to buy GOLD and food and guns, you have to
wonder how we can survive the stupidity?

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Re: No Dem Supported by Obama Expected to Get Anything Close to 50%

admin — Tue, 18 May 2010 14:55:30 +0000

On 5/18/2010 10:47 AM, wolfagain wrote:
> Obama again will be the biggest LOSER today…The Tea Party Patriots
> to be the biggest WINNERS!

Be careful, we’ll have to put a lot of extra nails in the Democrats
coffin…. They tend to vote after they’re buried.

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Mon, 17 May 2010 21:41:35 +0000

On 5/17/2010 5:29 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
> news:c5f817fe-16cd-4d09-b784-65304c0f4f51 @&*$?%p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com…
>> On May 17, 1:19 pm, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:76282855-580a-4226-a176-35a0b36b5825 @&*$?%b21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com…
>>>
>>>
>>> > On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>> >> Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> >> wrote:
>>>
>>> > -
>>> >> >>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>>
>>> >> >> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people
>>> should >> >> just
>>> >> >> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>>
>>> >> >You’re right, Greece is a Leftist Nirvana….
>>>
>>> >> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any facts.
>>>
>>> > Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called “sarcasm” to
>>> > expose your lack of argument. Look it up.
>>> >> –
>>> >> Ray Fischer
>>> >> rfisc…@sonic.net
>>>
>>> .
>>> .
>>> Wealthy Greeks CHEAT their fellow citizen by evading their taxes.
>>
>> Is that right? By how much?
> .
> .
> Enough to wreck Greece‘s economy.
>
> There have been a number of recent news articles about the wealthy
> cheats….GOOGLE, it works!
>
>
Those rich Greeks are here spreading their Socialism

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Mon, 17 May 2010 17:29:17 +0000

On 5/17/2010 1:19 PM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “Salty Stan” wrote in message
> news:76282855-580a-4226-a176-35a0b36b5825 @&*$?%b21g2000vbh.googlegroups.com…
>> On May 16, 5:31 pm, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>> Beam Me Up Scotty
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> -
>>> >>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>>>
>>> >> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people should just
>>> >> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?
>>>
>>> >You’re right, Greece is a Leftist Nirvana….
>>>
>>> The rightard changes the subject rather than provide any facts.
>>>
>>
>> Uh Ray, I believe the poster was using something called “sarcasm” to
>> expose your lack of argument. Look it up.
>>> —
>>> Ray Fischer
>>> rfisc…@sonic.net
>>
> .
> .
> Wealthy Greeks CHEAT their fellow citizen by evading their taxes.

in other words the taxes are so high that even the rich can’t afford to
pay…..

Re: Tea Party hatred of America

admin — Sun, 16 May 2010 20:09:19 +0000

On 5/16/2010 3:10 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> leonox1 wrote:
>> On May 11, 12:47 am, rfisc…@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>> leonox1 wrote:
>>>> The recent events in Greece have emphasized the dire warnings of
>>>> financial conservatives that the leftist, social “nanny state” is
>>>> simply unsustainable in a real world economy. One need only look at
>>>> the results of such failed experiments as the U.S.S.R. Cuba, Venezuela
>>>> and others to conclude that a socialist agenda simply does not work.
>>>
>>> Scandinavia.
>>>
>>>> Greece‘s policy of tax, borrow, and spend was finally caught up with
>>>> it, and it had to ask for a foreign bailout in order to avoid
>>>> bankruptcy. The scary thing is, the balance sheet of the U.S.A. is in
>>>> even worse shape that Greece‘s!
>>>
>>> Rightard bullshit.
>>>
>> Until you can actually come up with some facts
>
> Where are YOUR facts, rightard? Do you think that people should just
> blindly accept your bullshit propaganda without question?

You’re right, Greece is a Leftist Nirvana….

We should all be just like Greece and with your Leftist policies we can be.

Re: Tea Baggers twiddled while Bush ran the debt from $5 trillion

admin — Thu, 13 May 2010 21:49:55 +0000

On 5/13/2010 1:31 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:
> President Soetoro wrote:
>> On May 13, 7:37 am, kim wrote:
>>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 19:01:12 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>>> “W Spilman” wrote:
>>>
>>>>> “Mr.B1ack” wrote in message
>>>>> news:k5tdu5dolu15iv2b4l8lupvs8n1l5gmarb @&*$?%4ax.com…
>>>>>> “W Spilman” wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> “Mr.B1ack” wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:qogdu51ldr26bgqi8h4e9diq3v8ft91r0a @&*$?%4ax.com…
>>>>>>>> Major Debacle wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now they want us to believe that they are all fiscally vigilant.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Too late Tea Baggers… you had yer chance and blew it
>>>
>>>>>>>> The “Tea Party” didn’t EXIST at the time.
>>>
>>>>>>>> However it’s certain that Obama is gonna do
>>>>>>>> FAR more than merely DOUBLE the debt
>>>
>>>>>>> Another ignorant goober with a crystal ball!
>>>>>>> Get back to us when even one of your predictions
>>>>>>> comes true, loser.
>>>
>>>>>> Um … he’s already announced huge sweeping federal
>>>>>> programs that, by his own admission, WILL cost many
>>>>>> trillions of dollars -
>>>
>>>>> That is not what you said in the initial response.
>>>
>>>> The “initial response” is right up at the top
>>>> of the page. I said OB was gonna do more than
>>>> “W”s mere doubling of the debt … and so has
>>>> OB (in carefully-disguised terms, of course).
>>>
>>> The majority of the debt increase last year was Bush’s budget…
>>
>> And who ran the Congress the last 2 years of Bush’s term?.
>
> Military spending for the wars was OFF BUDGET during Bush’s terms.
>
Like Obama’s health care?

Re: Tea Baggers twiddled while Bush ran the debt from $5 trillion

admin — Thu, 13 May 2010 13:45:38 +0000

On 5/13/2010 8:49 AM, Sid9 wrote:
>
> “kim” wrote in message
> news:8ksnu5drm08rgak717n0gfonsmdp1m2738 @&*$?%4ax.com…
>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 19:01:12 -0400, Mr.B1ack wrote:
>>
>>> “W Spilman” wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> “Mr.B1ack” wrote in message
>>>> news:k5tdu5dolu15iv2b4l8lupvs8n1l5gmarb @&*$?%4ax.com…
>>>>> “W Spilman” wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Mr.B1ack” wrote in message
>>>>>> news:qogdu51ldr26bgqi8h4e9diq3v8ft91r0a @&*$?%4ax.com…
>>>>>>> Major Debacle wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now they want us to believe that they are all fiscally vigilant.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too late Tea Baggers… you had yer chance and blew it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The “Tea Party” didn’t EXIST at the time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However it’s certain that Obama is gonna do
>>>>>>> FAR more than merely DOUBLE the debt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another ignorant goober with a crystal ball!
>>>>>> Get back to us when even one of your predictions
>>>>>> comes true, loser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Um … he’s already announced huge sweeping federal
>>>>> programs that, by his own admission, WILL cost many
>>>>> trillions of dollars -
>>>>
>>>> That is not what you said in the initial response.
>>>
>>> The “initial response” is right up at the top
>>> of the page. I said OB was gonna do more than
>>> “W”s mere doubling of the debt … and so has
>>> OB (in carefully-disguised terms, of course).
>> The majority of the debt increase last year was Bush’s budget…
> .
> .
> This whole “debt” thing started with Reagan, continued with HW Bush, was
> gotten under control under Clinton, then bush,jr ran us off the cliff.

Started with FDR.

>
> Now we repair the damage done by fake “conservatives”

Progressives are the problem, both the Republican-Progressives and
Socialist-Progressives are the problem.

>
> Conservatives who conserved nothing.
You have it Backwards, it’s Progressives that want to Change us into
their space age technology that will save the planet.

Re: Defense Sec. Gates Has a Message for America’s Vets—”Pick Up

admin — Tue, 11 May 2010 14:19:04 +0000

On 5/11/2010 9:18 AM, Phlip wrote:
> On May 10, 9:57 pm, “Joel Olson” wrote:
>
>> Does Blackwater have a good health plan?
>
> As a matter of fact, no. Plenty of “veterans” of our MERCENARY troops
> have limped home, only to be recisioned by their HMOs, forced into
> bankruptcy, etc. The same deal the Tea Party campaigned to preserve
> for all of us.
>
> Let’s all cry boo-hoo for them.

Maybe you should demand that Obama pass a law that we all have to buy
“Rescue Jet ambulance” insurance so that when you are away from home and
get sick or in an accident and injured you can get home to your doctor
and medical care…… Being in a hospital 3000 miles away causes
people to go broke and creates expenses that will make you bankrupt.

Re: NY Times: Tea Party Backers are SMARTER than others

admin — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:40:51 +0000

On 4/18/2010 2:13 PM, Wexford wrote:
> On Apr 17, 5:27 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Everyth…@blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 4/17/2010 1:08 PM, Steve wrote:
>>
>
> ***********************************
>
>>> So if taxing the rich and middle class isn’t the right way to finance
>>> government, how would you do it?
>>
>> *MY LIBERTARIAN/Tea Party/BAIL-OUT PLAN*
>>
>> Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what stifles
>> commerce, the more regulations, the more it costs our economy. Most
>> regulations are used by existing businesses to reduce competition, and
>> competition would help us get out of this depression.
>
> And then what? Let everyone pollute the air and water as much as want?

I don’t recall saying all environmental regulation should be eliminated?

> Let banks, insurance companies and corporations in general lie as much
> as want, produce dangerously defective products, and make outrageous
> claims for the goods and services they offer? Let companies form
> cartels and set up monopolies? What a wonderful world that would be.

The least of our worry is corporations lying to us…..

Re: What is the “Tea Party” all about?

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:42:36 +0000

On 4/18/2010 8:21 AM, Me, …again! wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Clave wrote:
>
>> “Beam Me Up Scotty”
>> wrote in
>> message news:4BCA9B75.505 @&*$?%blackhole.NebulaX.com…
>>>
>>>
>>> The tea Party is a NON violent outlet for people to show their
>>> displeasure with the Socialism and TAXATION running a-muck in our
>>> GOVERNMENT…
>>
>> What horseshit.
>>
>> Their “displeasure with the Socialism” doesn’t include our socialized
>> military, roads, food and drug standards, building standards, law
>> enforcement, firefighting, sewers, or especially the entitlements they
>> themselves are receiving.
>>
>> Federal taxes are lower now than they were under Reagan. Obama’s tax
>> cuts
>> were the largest in US history.
>>
>> The teabag party is about a bunch of semi-literate, easily-persuadable
>> rubes
>> who think Limbaugh, Beck and O’Reilly are news journalists, and whose
>> *real*
>> displeasures consist of little more than resenting a black Democrat in
>> the
>> White House.

If so, why is it they ignore you and protest the Socialism that has been
propagandized to the extreme by the best of the Left.

Re: NY Times: Tea Party Backers are SMARTER than others

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 04:56:55 +0000

On 4/18/2010 12:03 AM, Phlip wrote:
> On Apr 17, 10:37 am, Wexford wrote:
>
>> The thing that really bothers me about the Pugs is not their
>> insincerity or their lies, it’s that Bush and company recklessly
>> pursued a war for two reasons (1) to make Bush look like a leader,
>> heroic and decisive, instead of like the inarticulate oaf he is, and
>> (2) to make money for Halliburton, Lockheed, Northrop, Blackwater, and
>> the rest of the bloody defense contractors. Even the Pugs were loathe
>> to do something like this in past, but the Gingrich adnn DeLay
>> Congress was completely corrupt, both morally and mentally, and let
>> all this happen. Their final monument is a mountain made of the bones
>> of 5,000 soldiers and countless Iraqis. Making billions of dollars for
>> their friends was worth it to them.
>
> Obama’s long term, progressive goal is to make the middle class as
> strong as it is in countries, such as the EU, where war criminals are
> treated as such.
>
> That’s when we get that money back. What if they had an oil war and
> nobody came?

We had a holy war and not one holy showed up!

Re: Republicans Get Shit On…Jobless Benefits Bill Goes To Obama

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 04:12:31 +0000

On 4/17/2010 11:10 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>> On 4/16/2010 4:25 PM, dacato wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 8:51 am, Beam Me Up Scotty >> Everyth…@blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/16/2010 9:21 AM, f…@twat.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 00:49:34 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Interesting but, Obama already spent HUNDREDS of BILLIONS to create
>>>>>> jobs, so why do we need to extend unemployment benefits?
>>>>> He didn’t “create jobs”—he’s “stimulating” a free market economy
>>>>> You’re more stupid every day.
>>>> Is this more 1984-NewSpeak? Socialism isn’t Stimulating, it’s striving
>>>> for Mediocrity. Obama is going the opposite direction of “free market”
>>>> it seems you don’t understand the concept of free markets and therefore
>>>> don’t know how to stimulate it.
>>> So then why don’t you tell us all how a Republican administration
>>> would stimulate the economy.
>>
>> *MY LIBERTARIAN/Tea Party/BAIL-OUT PLAN*
>>
>> Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what
>
> …has caused the current situation that we find ourselves in.

Yes the Government that allowed Fannie and Freddie to lower their credit
standards and promote their buying of risky loans….

The lack of REGULATIONS TO KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF PRIVATE MARKETS
CREATED THIS CRASH.

To clear up what I said… I suggested reducing the regulations on the
private sector, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE
REGULATIONS ON THE GOVERNMENT TO KEEP THEM FROM CAUSING ANOTHER DISASTER
LIKE THIS.

Re: Is the tea party more racist?>>OR<< Is the congressional Black

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:04:01 +0000

On 4/17/2010 8:39 PM, Me, …again! wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2010 2:08 PM, harii.kumar @&*$?%indiro.com wrote:
>>> Jay stevens,aka jai etc. makes many posts in support of the tea party.
>>> This is consistant with his support of american christian right issues.
>>>
>>> But what does it reveal about jay stevens,aka dr. jai etc. himself being
>>> an american white bigot? We know he is a bigot by his posts in many
>>> areas, does it extend to his fellow american black citizens and other
>>> ethnic groups?
>>>
>>> Does it bear upon his hatred for his american black president?
>>>
>>> Here is an article about a recent poll taken about tea party members
>>> views which will help us answer the question about jay stevens,aka dr.
>>> jai etc. and his bigotry.:
>>>
>>> http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2010/04/09/new-poll-finds-tea-partiers-have-more-racist-attitudes.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>> So a new poll by researchers at the University of Washington caught
>>> my
>>> eye. The findings are sure to fan the flames further. “People who
>>> approve of the Tea Party, more than those who don’t approve, have
>>> more
>>> racist attitudes,” says Christopher Parker, a University of
>>> Washington
>>> professor who directed the survey. “And not only that, but more
>>> homophobic and xenophobic attitudes.” For instance, respondents were
>>> asked whether they agreed with various characterizations of different
>>> racial groups. Only 35 percent of those who strongly approve of the
>>> tea
>>> party agreed that blacks are hardworking, compared with 55 percent of
>>> those who strongly disapprove of the tea party. On whether blacks
>>> were
>>> intelligent, 45 percent of the tea-party supporters agreed, compared
>>> with 59 percent of the tea-party opponents. And on the issue of
>>> whether
>>> blacks were trustworthy, 41 percent of the tea-party supporters
>>> agreed,
>>> compared with 57 percent of the tea-party opponents.
>>>
>>
>> Is the congressional Black Caucus Racist?
>>
>
> Is the “Indian lobby” racist?
>
>
Where is the White lobby?

Re: What is the “Tea Party” all about?

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 02:56:50 +0000

On 4/17/2010 8:45 PM, Me, …again! wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2010 7:46 AM, Me, …again! wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/16/2010 3:45 PM, Me, …again! wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> The recurring theme was the Federal
>>>>>> Government is too BIG and TOO WASTEFUL. We are as a Nation going
>>>>>> broke
>>>>>> due to the wasteful Federal spending and intrusion into our private
>>>>>> lives.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you don’t mind if our banks, finance corporations, and money
>>>>> manipulators get too BIG and TOO WASTEFUL (guess you already forgot
>>>>> Enron, Arthur Andersen, and Bear Stearns/Lehman/etc. [today SEC
>>>>> accused
>>>>
>>>> Enron didn’t raise my taxes to waste my money…. Obama is!
>>>
>>> No but if you invested in them, you were hurt.
>>
>> I had a choice to NOT invest in Enron, Obama’s taxes give me ZERO
>> CHOICE.
>
> You get free access to highways, roads, most bridges, lots of other
> things where ordinarily you would be paying lots more money than taxes
> and have no choice, either.
>
> No choice? OK, renounce your citizenship and get the hell outta this
> country.
>
>> Have you ever heard of diversification.
>>
>>> Since a lot of people were hurt by Enron, they spent less money thus
>>> hurting the economy.
>>
>> Enron hurt some people’s earnings, Obama’s hurting ALL peoples earnings.
>
> Wrong, all the ER rooms that can’t charge poor people will get some
> reimbursement, doctors and the health industry will get booming new
> business, and people normally f&*$?%d-over by virtue of pre-existing
> conditions can get some medical attention.
>
> Then, there will be all that secondary business as a spin-off of
> “Obama’s hurt” that you are so worried about.
>
>>> Since you evidently care little about the economy, then you are
>>> greedy-selfish, too.
>>
>> It’s NOT “The Economy” and Enron was a small, tiny part of a HUGE
>> economic system.
>
> AIG, Lehman, Bear Stearns, Goldman were all definitely NOT a small part
> of a huge economic system.
>
> People and business’ fail, we need the Enron’s to
>> FAIL, why would you bail out those crooks? Let them fail and put them in
>> jail.
>
> Its a good question whether to help a few crooks AND _also_ help a large
> number of innocent investors….or ….by your imperitive “ f&*$?%k the
> whole system to bits.”

Helping people is nice….. allowing businesses and people to fail is
helping people.

If you fell down at age one and no one ever let you walk again and
carried you everywhere, did they help you?

If you are a drug addict and someone offers to get you all the Heroin
you need, did they help you?

If someone offers you a Sandwich everyday and you have to stay near them
to get that sandwich, did they help you?

Wouldn’t you be better off walking, quitting the drugs and going out
into the world to learn how to get your own food?

Shouldn’t they have let you walk, put you in rehab and and shown you how
the earn a sandwich anywhere by working.

You would create a Nation of wussy people that can’t take care of
themselves.

Re: Tea partiers Not Racist? Let’s Have a Look at Some Stats

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:48:43 +0000

On 4/16/2010 8:15 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:
> On Apr 16, 5:56 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Everyth…@blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 4/16/2010 10:45 AM, leonox1 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 15, 10:03 pm, Steve wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:55:52 -0500, “5415 Dead, 548 since 1/20/09″
>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:23:18 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> More from the Poll:
>>>>>>>> Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What TheyBelieveTea Partiers
>>>>>>>> View Palin, Beck and Bush Favorably Tea Party Activists Small but
>>>>>>>> Passionate Group “Birther” Myth Persists Among Tea Partiers, All
>>>>>>>> Americans Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair Read the
>>>>>>>> Complete Poll on Tea Party Members (PDF)
>>
>>>>>>> in today’s news, the tea party is trying to hide the extremists. so
>>>>>>> they have told many speakers they cannot make speeches at this time. so
>>>>>>> the crowds may dwindle.
>>
>>>>>> CNN & MSNBC focusing on these creeps (instead of ignoring them) is
>>>>>> helping make them look bad, and inspiring organizers to get rid of the
>>>>>> bad eggs. Then there’s no good eggs left.
>>
>>>>>> Before HCR, the non-Fox “news” channels could not play the Tea Party up,
>>>>>> because they might have actually derailed the reform.
>>
>>>>> Faux was trumpeting the teabagger rallies, of course, and I spotted a
>>>>> “Tea Party Manifesto” of ten items that I’m going to have some fun
>>>>> writing about tonight.
>>
>>>> > Maybe if you spent some time doing something productive you
>>>> wouldn’t be such a pathetic failure..
>>
>>> To a liberal, EVERYONE ELSE is a “racist“.
>>
>> Good clear concise…. I like it.
>>
>> Liberalism is based on race and is inherently racist because in
>> Liberalism, race is the one thing from which all else is derived.
>> – Beam Me Up Scotty – 2009
>
> definitely a prime example of teabonics.

Is that like “BAD” means good and far-out means OK…. Teabonics means
telling the bone chilling and painful truth. Thank you for the
compliment.

Re: Tea partiers Not Racist? Let’s Have a Look at Some Stats

admin — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:31:36 +0000

On 4/16/2010 10:09 PM, 5415 Dead, 548 since 1/20/09 wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable
> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 16, 5:56 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty > Everyth…@blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/16/2010 10:45 AM, leonox1 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Apr 15, 10:03 pm, Steve wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:55:52 -0500, “5415 Dead, 548 since 1/20/09″
>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:23:18 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> More from the Poll:
>>>>>>>>> Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What TheyBelieveTea Partiers
>>>>>>>>> View Palin, Beck and Bush Favorably Tea Party Activists Small but
>>>>>>>>> Passionate Group “Birther” Myth Persists Among Tea Partiers, All
>>>>>>>>> Americans Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair Read the
>>>>>>>>> Complete Poll on Tea Party Members (PDF)
>>>
>>>>>>>> in today’s news, the tea party is trying to hide the extremists. so
>>>>>>>> they have told many speakers they cannot make speeches at this time. so
>>>>>>>> the crowds may dwindle.
>>>
>>>>>>> CNN & MSNBC focusing on these creeps (instead of ignoring them) is
>>>>>>> helping make them look bad, and inspiring organizers to get rid of the
>>>>>>> bad eggs. Then there’s no good eggs left.
>>>
>>>>>>> Before HCR, the non-Fox “news” channels could not play the Tea Party up,
>>>>>>> because they might have actually derailed the reform.
>>>
>>>>>> Faux was trumpeting the teabagger rallies, of course, and I spotted a
>>>>>> “Tea Party Manifesto” of ten items that I’m going to have some fun
>>>>>> writing about tonight.
>>>
>>>>> > Maybe if you spent some time doing something productive you
>>>>> wouldn’t be such a pathetic failure..
>>>
>>>> To a liberal, EVERYONE ELSE is a “racist“.
>>>
>>> Good clear concise…. I like it.
>>>
>>> Liberalism is based on race and is inherently racist because in
>>> Liberalism, race is the one thing from which all else is derived.
>>> – Beam Me Up Scotty – 2009
>>
>> definitely a prime example of teabonics.
>
> AND fits on a bumper sticker.
>
> If you have to twitter it, it’s too complicated for right wing brains.

There’s a certain wisdom in bumper stickers…

And it takes a bit of thinking to whittle down something to it’s minimal
essence.

Re: NY Times: Tea Party Backers are SMARTER than others

admin — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:07:07 +0000

> Foxtrot wrote in
> news:7tsjs5pec1lspfqhu09lu218s9ggjbk3vh @&*$?%4ax.com:
>
>> Wexford wrote:
>>
>>> Steve wrote:
>>>> Milt wrote:
>>>> The left has to try to demonize the Tea Party movement because they
>>>> realize it’s potential for running the Democrats out of Washington.
>>>> The left is running scared.
>>>
>>> No one is demonizing anything. These Teabaggers are pathetic,
>>> confused, angry little people with no coherent policy or platform.
>>> They apparently want it all — security, freedom, medical care,
>>> financial relief, protection, etc., without paying for any of it. The
>>
>> Keep insulting the Tea Party. We don’t appreciate having our
>> children placed deeply in debt just so Champagne Obama can have
>> his political trophy.

Obama has condemned himself to a prison built of Socialism for the rest
of his life, he is creating HATE that will follow him for all the days
of his life.

Have you noticed some Presidents make no enemies and then there is Obama.

Sad but much like “Saddam Husein“, “Barak Husein Obama” is trying to
rule with an iron fist and rule against the will of the people. It
didn’t end well for Saddam so Obama knows what he’s creating for himself.

Re: Tea partiers Not Racist? Let’s Have a Look at Some Stats

admin — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:56:26 +0000

On 4/16/2010 10:45 AM, leonox1 wrote:
> On Apr 15, 10:03 pm, Steve wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:55:52 -0500, “5415 Dead, 548 since 1/20/09″
>>
>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:23:18 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>>
>>>>>> More from the Poll:
>>>>>> Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What TheyBelieveTea Partiers
>>>>>> View Palin, Beck and Bush Favorably Tea Party Activists Small but
>>>>>> Passionate Group “Birther” Myth Persists Among Tea Partiers, All
>>>>>> Americans Most Tea Party Supporters Say Their Taxes Are Fair Read the
>>>>>> Complete Poll on Tea Party Members (PDF)
>>
>>>>> in today’s news, the tea party is trying to hide the extremists. so
>>>>> they have told many speakers they cannot make speeches at this time. so
>>>>> the crowds may dwindle.
>>
>>>> CNN & MSNBC focusing on these creeps (instead of ignoring them) is
>>>> helping make them look bad, and inspiring organizers to get rid of the
>>>> bad eggs. Then there’s no good eggs left.
>>
>>>> Before HCR, the non-Fox “news” channels could not play the Tea Party up,
>>>> because they might have actually derailed the reform.
>>
>>> Faux was trumpeting the teabagger rallies, of course, and I spotted a
>>> “Tea Party Manifesto” of ten items that I’m going to have some fun
>>> writing about tonight.
>>
>> > Maybe if you spent some time doing something productive you
>> wouldn’t be such a pathetic failure..
>
> To a liberal, EVERYONE ELSE is a “racist“.

Good clear concise…. I like it.

Liberalism is based on race and is inherently racist because in
Liberalism, race is the one thing from which all else is derived.
– Beam Me Up Scotty – 2009

Re: Toyota…much more problems….

admin — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:25:59 +0000

On 4/16/2010 7:47 AM, Me, …again! wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Army Of The 13th Monkey wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/2010 11:50 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:
>>> On Apr 15, 8:09 pm, “Me, …again!” wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, Nickname unavailable wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 15, 5:28 pm, “Me, …again!” wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, alexy wrote:
>>>>>>> Nickname unavailable wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> i am going at it with another libertarian fascist, that says toyota
>>>>>>>> is being driven out of business by socialists, simply amazing
>>>>>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>>>> Well, there is some additional backlash surely generated by people
>>>>>> upset
>>>>>> with Obamacare because it feels like socialism to them and so the
>>>>>> anti-socialist sentiment that has been part of our society is also up
>>>>>> (partly in the Tea Party movement).
>>>>
>>>>> they would not know real socialism if it bite them in the a&*$?%s. many
>>>>> of the idiots are on social security, medicare, and unemployment,
>>>>> socialism.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I’m on SS and Medicare and I think they are just fine. A hell
>>>> of a
>>>> lot better than some of these f&*$?%g health insurance stories where
>>>> people get denied benefits, denied even testing (big deal in my state
>>>> right now; doctors ordering tests and the insurance companies are
>>>> denying
>>>> benefits for that, and the insurance commissioner is investigating).
>>>>
>>>
>>> its amazing how many teabonic types sprout on about the constitution,
>>> yet, if they ever read thomas paine, who was considered the driving
>>> source for the declaration of independence, the preamble, and the
>>> constitution, advocated for a social democracy, and its enshrined in
>>> the constitution.
>>
>>
>> You should read the Constitution….
>>
>
> He’s probably read it better than you.

The Constitution built a representative republic, not a social
democracy. Social Democracy is just code for Socialist. Given the
individual rights that you will first have to steal from people to get
to Socialism, it seems impossible the founders were promoting socialism
in the Constitution.

Socialism and the Constitution are not compatible.

Fwd: MY LIBERTARIAN/Tea Party BAIL-OUT PLAN*

Poetic justice — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:42:12 +0000

*MY LIBERTARIAN/Tea Party BAIL-OUT PLAN*

Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what stifles
commerce, the more regulations, the more it costs our economy. Most
regulations are used by existing businesses to reduce competition, and
competition would help us get out of this depression.

End the “war on drugs” make them legal(increase competition) and sold
at any drug store and push for prostitution to be legal too, that will
take the BIG money out of trafficking in drugs, and that will reduce the
gangs/dealers income and that should reduce the value of sex slaves and
hurt the human trafficking business income also. Why have illegal
prostitutes when there are so many legal tax paying prostitutes out there?

Have the States Ratify an amendment withdrawing the 16th amendment…

Maybe enact something similar to the http://fairtax.org (Federal sales
tax) with the same amendment that removes income tax and the IRS,
preferably a Federal *NEW ITEM* sales tax. This will reduce the number
of tax crimes that people are in jails for and it will give the people back
their privacy. It will also promote *GREEN* living where people will save
more and waste less and buy second hand and wear things out rather
than discard and buy new. Then add the amendment to it that if they
raise tax by 1% they are forced to cut every single expenditure of the
government by 3%.

Begin to draw down troops as needed from around the world. Put half
of our military bases along the southern Border to minimize the amount
of border that the Border patrol needs to watch, the military and Federal
laws will push the illegals to spaces between the military bases.
This tax/border policy will financially assault the drug dealers and hookers
and other underground economy’s by forcing them to have to pay tax when
they *spend their money* , which will further reduce the benefit of
dealing in other illegal stuff. We are “right now” taking money from
peoples pay checks before they get them and at the same time we don’t
tax drug dealers or hookers and illegals or others at all, we are
penalizing the working Americans. Sales tax will also encourage saving
money rather than encouraging the leveraging of every dime you can get
like income tax does.

This will drive people in the underground economy to become part of the
real economy. It will stop most of the turf killings and end our
Immigration problems with illegals stealing identities since they will
be paying tax(as sales tax). Offer illegals less welfare and charge them
tax and they won’t be so eager to come here and we won’t need to chase
them……

End Social Security/Medicare, grandfather it out of existence.

Pass an amendment to the constitution that makes all
*laws_and_treaties* have a four year sunset clause, and it requires that
each law/treaty be voted by a separate roll call vote every four years
to continue to be maintained in our laws. There should also be some
constitutional amendments to stifle congress’ borrowing and spending.
Pass another amendment creating term limits on congress so the House has
6 terms and the Senate has 2 terms, for a total of 12 years in either
side of congress. WE NEED TO STOP CONGRESS FROM PASSING FRIVOLOUS LAWS
TAXES AND BORROWING AND ENDLESSLY PRINTING MONEY.

We need to quit filling the jails with people over *social taboos* , we
need to take away congress’ ability to “social engineer” businesses or
private people by removing the tax code. Government needs to spend
10% less every year until they meet the income of the government. The
way, is to *use both cutting and taxing* , the Congress should implement
a rule to force an across the board spending freeze and then across the
board cuts on the government spending, to do that we have force them to
cut spending 3% for every 1% Leftists raise taxes. SO any tax would
result in spending cuts using a baseline of 10% taxes.

And we need to give up our roll as the police man of the world, let
them fight their own fights. We need fewer people committing crimes, we
need fewer police and prisons….this drug and tax plan…. will reduce
police and prison needs by at least that 10% that this plan suggested
cutting.

NO welfare to corporations, and cut welfare to private people by 10%
each year until it is 10% of today’s cost.

Any way you look at it, we’re in DEEP for a long time.

Fwd: Tea Party Threatened by Capitalist Menace>>OR<< National "chapter"

Poetic justice — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:46:20 +0000

On 1/27/2010 4:51 AM, Cliff wrote:
> http://dagblog.com/humor-satire/tea-party-threatened-capitalist-menace-3090
> “Tea Party Threatened by Capitalist Menace”
> [
> The Tea Party, a potent collection of dyspeptic right-wing populist groups, was
> on the verge of national conquest. Having defeated a Republican candidate in a
> New York House election and a Democratic candidate in the Massachusetts Senate
> election, it seemed that there was no stopping this crew of tax-rejecting,
> socialist-hating, health-care-not-wanting defenders of the Constitution and all
> that is good in America.
>
> But on the eve of triumph, the Tea Party's first ever national convention is
> collapsing in acrimony, having been sabotaged by a devious Capitalist
> conspiracy. According to news reports ........
> ......
> ]

The tea party is all local, a National “chapter” would defeat the
purpose of the tea party movement, it started with the people and
doesn’t need one office or leader…. Think like Al Qaeda and the many
cells that are NOT connected, No one can control all the cells that are
set up, in this case for political means to represent the people. With
the tea parties “NOT using one voice” you can’t corrupt or hijack the
movement. If you go the wrong way after hijacking one cell then the
people will quit when they are disenfranchised and will just gravitate
to the next cell that pops up.

The point is to NOT have candidates from a party but to select from
others candidates, because when you have a party and people organizing
it from a central point then you have people selecting candidates for
their reason and NOT the peoples reasons. Once someone sets up structure
to rise through to become a politician, then the tea parties will be
corruptible but since being in or head of a tea party group gets you
nothing then you can offer nothing to get people to do your bidding.

If someone actually tries to start a National chapter to a tea party
it’s an oxymoron and and destined to fail, all it means is that they
don’t understand the tea party movement.

There is no “National” in the tea party movement.

If you are tea party then you don’t want a National chapter like the
other parties have, the downfall of the other parties is that they have
a “leader and structure” and that leads to cronyism and back room deals.

*To all tea parties* :
Don’t collect and align outside of your States keep it States Rights and
when it comes to a National leader the only one is really the President
so the need to become a member of a National group is near ZERO unless
you want to be corrupted to force you all to a will other than the will
of the people.

Re: Tea Party Flourishes

admin — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:45:20 +0000

On 1/12/2010 12:16 AM, smorgas @&*$?%board.net wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:38:18 -0600, Lookout
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:25:30 -0600, “RD (The Sandman)”
>> wrote:
>
>
>>> Excuse me? Who was the Chairmen of the House and Senate Finance
>>> Committees with oversight on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac since 2006? Who
>>> gave those institutions a clean bill of health claiming that they were
>>> healthy and solvent with no problems as recently as July of 2008? Bonus
>>> points if you can name both of them.
>>
>> The damage started with Reaganomics.
>
> The root cause was the underlying economic theories embraced by the
> reagan regime—that massively cutting taxes on the wealth class and
> corporations, deregulation of industries would (somehow) be beneficial
> in a stagnat economy. Didn’t work because Oil was the problem–not
> the conditions that tax cuts would help

Is that why the Democrats in congress *all in lock step* said there was
no problems with Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac?

> Bush reinstituted those “theories”, left the tax cuts in place—but
> with the GOP dominated congress (after blowing the surplus of 2000)
> not only started a war based on lies—but went on a spending spree
> that made the historical democrats look like misers.
>

The Democrats were in denial because they didn’t want their very own
back door welfare program to be shut down.

–

Re: Tea Party rattles America’s educated class

admin — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:51:55 +0000

On 1/11/2010 7:04 AM, dave wrote:
> D. Peter Maus wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> One does not pay for freedom with money.
>
> Then what good is money?

It is used to enslave you.

–

Re: Tea Party Flourishes

admin — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:52:09 +0000

On 1/10/2010 12:42 PM, Lookout wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:44:43 -0600, “RD (The Sandman)”
> wrote:
>
>> Siobhan Medeiros wrote in
>> news:d21bd175-6379-4c4a-ba13-05b00ee1a1bd @&*$?%35g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Jan 7, 9:39 am, Catfish Hunter
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 7, 10:43 am, “Psychic Democrat” wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> “Cliff” wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> news:0q1ck5900dftc5c46h4tk1lf2f0jh89v30 @&*$?%4ax.com…
>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/the-tea-party-flourishes_
>>>>>> b_.
>>> ..
>>>>>> “The Tea Party Flourishes, Progressives Flounder, Wall Street
>>>>>> Wins
>>> ”
>>>>
>>>>>> Well worth the read.
>>>>>> –
>>>>>> Cliff
>>>>
>>>>> The stupid and ignorant in this country will likely be our down
>>>>> fall ,
>>> they
>>>>> are politically active but too damned stupid to have a clue ,
>>>>> supportin
>>> g
>>>>> those who are against the country’s best interest as well as their
>>>>> own
>>> .
>>>>
>>>> That is a great description of the 2006 and 2008 elections. We have
>>>> allowed the idiots to elect liberals. What has it gotten us? Record
>>>> breaking deficits, high unemployment, ect.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Excuse me, moron, but the high unemployment is because of Dubya’s
>>> financial crisis, remember? And it was Dubya that started spending
>>> like a drunken sailor after Clinton had balanced the budget, remember.
>>
>> Clinton balanced the on-budget items. He still added a few billion
>> dollars to the national debt.
>>
>>> The #1 rightard complaint – Obama isn’t cleaning up their mess fast
>>> enough.
>>
>> My complaint is that he keeps blaming everything on Bush. When does he
>> assume ownership?
>
> As most experts have opined it will take at least a decade to get out
> of this mess.

Expert Obama and expert Democrats said it would all be over by 2010.

It was those “nasty America Hating Republicans” that wanted the economy
to go bad…. that said Obama was plunging us into a 10 year DEPRESSION
with his Keynesian government style Borrow, print and spending of
$trillions of dollars.

Liberal-Socialists like Obama have been telling Republicans to sit down
and *SHUT UP* and now you say that, Democrats are saying what
Republicans had said one year ago.

–

Re: Tea Party planning national strike for January 20th

admin — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:52:56 +0000

On 1/6/2010 1:36 AM, Freestyle wrote:
> On Jan 3, 4:30 pm, General Disaster
> wrote:
>> As President Barack Obama‘s first year in office draws to a close, Tea
>> Party groups are planning to mark the occasion with a national strike -
>> something local leaders say could demonstrate the conservative groups’
>> burgeoning strength.
>>
>
> So Walmarts in the South will close for a day. So what?

There goes more tax dollars down the toilet, poor Obama will have to
borrow another trillion dollars from the Chinese to pay for his Socialism.

Taxes are what Obama needs.

Re: Tea Party planning national strike for January 20th

admin — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:02:29 +0000

On 1/3/2010 4:58 PM, Dennis M wrote:
> I’m sure the counterterrorism authorities will be on top of their plans to
> strike the US, wouldn’t want to be accused of being “soft on terrorism” or
> anything like that by the rightwing.

Saddam used Gas, what will Obama use?

Re: Tea Party Party Would Beat GOP — Rasmussen Reports

admin — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:04:57 +0000

On 12/21/2009 10:28 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>> Cahill will be OK
>>
>>> The high tax Obama economic boom is right on schedule.
>>
>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>> Yep, more people out of work every day, right on schedule.
>
> Unemployment is dropping in CA.
>
>
Are people leaving? If Jobs are a hopeless thing, then people leaving
would make your unemployment go down. Did Illegals stay in California
or are they going back to Mexico or to different States like Texas where
the economy is much better?

Re: Tea Party Party Would Beat GOP — Rasmussen Reports

admin — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:57:01 +0000

On 12/21/2009 8:05 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>> Cahill will be OK
>
> The high tax Obama economic boom is right on schedule.
>
>
> Bret Cahill

Yep, more people out of work every day, right on schedule.

Re: Tea Party Party Would Beat GOP — Rasmussen Reports

admin — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:47:10 +0000

On 12/21/2009 12:23 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>>>>> Why waste time in a political party that doesn’t represent your
>>>>>>> interests? Get organized!
>>
>>>>>>> Bret Cahill
>>
>>>>>>> More Americans would vote for a congressional candidate from a
>>>>>>> hypothetical Tea Party than for a Republican, a Rasmussen Reports
>>>>>>> national poll reveals.
>>
>>>>>> Good to hear you are finally paying attention to Rasmussen, the most
>>>>>> accurate pollster. I guess you also saw most people don’t want
>>>>>> Obamacere and Obama has a 17 point approval gap with his strongest
>>>>>> dissaproval reached over the last week, and his approval number at
>>>>>> 46%, looking to fall further if you look at trends.
>>
>>>>> Still 2x better than Bush’s exit numbers. And about the same as Bush’s
>>>>> pre-911 numbers.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> Actually the worst for any POTUS at this stage. And bad signs within,
>>>> Obama has basically lost independents who foolishly put him in
>>>> office. Also remember he has had more positive media than Bush or
>>>> anyone else–CNN fact-checked and SNL sketch for crying out lout.
>>>> Some of the lamestream media is realizing they look foolish propping
>>>> him up at any cost and that will cost him points. You also no longer
>>>> need to like him to be “cool” and that will hurt him. Absent a 9-11
>>>> scale event and considering the economy will stay slow I project he
>>>> falls to 40-41% by 4th of July.
>>
>>> Rasmussen Reports showed that teabagger party could _really_ whup them
>>> evil marxist commie Democrats.
>>
>> No such thing as a “Tea-Bagger” party.
>
> Maybe not now but that’ll soon change as the glorious patriotic Tea
> Party movement takes shape and blossoms in a way that Karl Rove could
> never imagine.
>
> Rush and Beck could be party chairs . . .

Rush is a Status Quo Republican and we see how the Republican Party has
been useless in stopping this march to Socialism.

Re: 56% of Americans approve of Obama…Choke on it Wingers

admin — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:23:04 +0000

> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:47:05 -0800 (PST), ornamentalmind wrote:
>
>> On Dec 17, 9:25 am, Beam Me Up Scotty > dog.com> wrote:
>>> On 12/17/2009 11:29 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Obama will be bringing the troops home to a high tax economic boom as
>>>> long as he gets the Fed to understand inflation is choked off with tax
>>>> hikes on the rich.
>>>
>>> Tax hikes will stop recovery…. Who will be doing the investing, teh
>>> rich who had their money taxed away?
>>>
>>> Troops won’t be coming home, just as Obama didn’t close GITMO and
>>> instead Obama *MOVED* GITMO to Illinois.
>>>
>>> –
>>>
>>> *Obama THE LIAR*
>>> Failure to use public financing when he was running for the Presidency.
>>> Failure to keep Lobbyist out of his Administration.
>>> Failure to close GITMO, just moving it to Illinois.
>>> Failure to hire people Qualified to do their job.
>>> Failure to stop the economic slide into the abyss.
>>> Failure to stop Iran from producing nuclear fissile material
>>> Failure to stop N. Korea from threatening it’s neighbors.
>>> Failure to stop ear marks.
>>> Failure to bring *all* the troops home.
>>> Failure to end the Patriot act.
>>> Failure to create an effective energy plan.
>>> Failure to drill for American Oil.
>>> Failure to make coal cleaner.
>>> Failure to lower taxes for 95%
>>> Failure to Cut tax, instead he’s raising a carbon tax/VAT tax.
>>> Failure to Cut tax, instead he’s raising a Health care tax and fees.
>>> Failure to get a dog from the pound.
>>> Failure to create Bipartisanship in the USA
>>> Failure to negotiate with terrorists/pirates rather than killing them.
>>> Failure to read “line by line” any spending bills before signed
>>> Failure to get the Olympics for Chicago
>>> Failure to get Valerie Jarred big graft for her Chicago Slums
>>> Failure to Talk to his Generals in the War Zone.
>>> Failure to act decisively on the war in Afghanistan.
>>> Failure to create GREEN JOBS.
>>> Failure to keep the promise of no more than 8% unemployment, it’s 10%
>>> Failure to protect and preserve the U.S. constitution.
>>> Failure to keep the terrorists out, and keep the USA safe.
>>> Failure to be transparent, Obama said health care would be on C-SPAN.
>>> Failure to make the rest of the world love us.
>>> Failure to…
>>
>>
>> More on BO:
>>
>> http://www.fastpitchnetworking.com/press/Author%20Tells%20Why%20Obama%20s%20Continued%20Popularity%20has%20Plunged%20Faster%20than%20Bush%20s.html
>>
>> And, as idealistic and ‘left wing’ as I may be perceived as being, I
>> will not support him or those currently in the same ‘party’.

They are Progressives that have taken over the Democrat Party.

Hillary and Obama and Nancy and Barnie and many more are Progressives
that have been slowly and quietly taking control. If you aren’t a
Progressive then you won’t get to the top of the Democrat Party…..
Check it out.

The Tea Party isn’t Republican or Conservative but there may be many in
it, the Tea Party Group are against this run away Government. The money
is how government takes more control and more power for its self.

The Tea Party is like the ANTI PROGRESSIVES party.

Re: Faux & their proud teabaggng

admin — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:13:39 +0000

> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>> “John R. Carroll” wrote in
>> news:0ZydnUxjVtTW34DWnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d @&*$?%giganews.com:
>>
>>> RD (The Sandman) wrote:
>>>> grey_ghost471-newsgroups @&*$?%yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) wrote in
>>>> news:Xns9CD99CDEC5540Wereofftoseethewizrd @&*$?%216.196.97.142:
>>>>
>>>>> “John R. Carroll” wrote in news:8KCdnUB2Wv-
>>>>> lkIHWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d @&*$?%giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gray Ghost wrote:
>>>>>>> “John R. Carroll” wrote in
>>>>>>> news:lcmdnXSs3Nlmc4bWnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d @&*$?%giganews.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tankfixer wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>>>> nospam @&*$?%nothanks.org says…
>>>>>>>>>> Winston_Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The term “teabagger” may have been around a long time. I’ve
>>>>>>>>>>> never heard it, but I’ll accept your statement.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They call them “tea parties”. Just like the event during the
>>>>>>>>>>> American Revolution. Shifting that to “teabaggers” is
>>>>>>>>>>> simply a leftist winger attempt to spin the patriotic
>>>>>>>>>>> reference into a smear.
>>>>>>>>>> The Boston Tea Party wasn’t corporate sponsored.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “Colonial merchants, some of them smugglers, played a
>>>>>>>>> significant role in the protests. Because the Tea Act made
>>>>>>>>> legally imported tea cheaper,
>>>>>>>> Yeah, it was a tax cut.
>>>>>>>> That’s the really funny part of all of this.
>>>>>>>> Today’s TeaBaggers have patterned their protests unwittingly
>>>>>>>> after a movement that was protesting a TAX CUT.
>>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So this is what passes for education today? F&*$?%g pathetic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m not going waste a lot of time on this.
>>>>>> You mean you’d rather remain an ignorant poseur.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to help the East India Company compete with smuggled
>>>>>> Dutch tea, in 1767 Parliament passed the Indemnity Act, which
>>>>>> lowered the tax on tea consumed in Great Britain, and gave the
>>>>>> East India Company a refund of the 25% duty on tea that was
>>>>>> re-exported to the colonies.[10] To help offset this loss of
>>>>>> government revenue, Parliament also passed the Townshend Revenue
>>>>>> Act of 1767, which levied new taxes, including one on tea, in the
>>>>>> colonies.[
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> None of which contradicts what I said. it didn’t matter if the tea
>>>>> was cheaper, they weren’t going to pay the tax. It’s called
>>>>> principles. Something you are clearly unaware of.
>>>>>
>>>> If you look at his cite, taxes on tea were raised by the Townshend
>>>> Revenue Act of 1767 for the colonies. The only reduction was for
>>>> tea consumed in Great Britain itself.
>>> And the Tea Act itself was a tax CUT.
>>>
>>>
>> And did not affect the taxes on teas in the colonies. It only lowered
>> the cost of tea *consumed* in Great Britain itself. To offset that
>> loss of revenue, a tax was added to tea in the colonies by the
>> Townsend Revenue Act. Whether you call it a tea tax or a revenue
>> act, the result is the same. Tax on tea in the colonies went up not
>> down.

Wasn’t that economic and “Social justice”? Some all powerful King like
Obama forcing his view of economic justice on his subjects.

Deja-Vu all over again.

–

Re: Tea Party Death Express: Tea bagger bus company sued over blaze

admin — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:05:41 +0000

Freestyle wrote:
> On Sep 9, 12:29 pm, H&*$?%e wrote:
>> http://harpers.org/archive/2009/09/hbc-90005661
>>
>> September 8, 2009
>>
>> Tea Party Death Express
>>
>
> I wonder if any of the survivors lingered on respirators for weeks in
> agonizing pain because their end of life wishes were not clearly
> written out.

Only if they hate life.

All it takes is a pen and paper…. not real complicated. Or a living
will.

No need for 1000 pages of government intrusion into my life…. if you
need the government intrusion then make a private deal to sell them your
soul.

Re: Town Hall Showdowns: Unions to take on RepbliNazi storm troopers

admin — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:07:02 +0000

Lamont Cranston wrote:
> Steven L. wrote:
>> H&*$?%e wrote:
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/unions-to-take-on-conserv_n_252720.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 8-6-09
>>>
>>> Unions To Take On Conservative Groups Health Care Town Halls
>>>
>>> By Sam Stein
>>>
>>>
>>> The nation’s largest federation of labor organizations has promised
>>> to directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at
>>> Democratic town halls during the August recess.
>>>
>>> In a memo sent out on Thursday, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney
>>> outlined the blueprint for how the union conglomerate would step up
>>> recess activities on health care reform and other topics pertinent to
>>> the labor community.
>>>
>>> The document makes clear that Obama allies view the town hall forums
>>> as ground zero of the health care debate.
>>>
>>> It also uses the specter of the infamous 2000 recount “Brooks
>>> Brothers” protest to rally its members to the administration’s side.
>>>
>>> “The principal battleground in the campaign will be town hall
>>> meetings and other gatherings with members of Congress in their home
>>> districts,” reads the memo.
>>>
>>> “We want your help to organize major union participation to counter
>>> the right-wing “Tea-Party Patriots” who will try to disrupt those
>>> meetings, as they’ve been trying to do to meetings for the last
>>> month. …
>>> (Remember the hooligans – many of them Republican Congressional staff
>>> – who harassed Florida vote counters in 2000? We can’t let that
>>> happen again!).”
>>>
>>> A showdown between unions and grassroots conservative organizations
>>> could make for an August full of fireworks, with even more
>>> dysfunctional town hall meetings.
>>>
>>> The AFL-CIO is planning to target 50 “high priority districts,” in
>>> addition to organizing telephone town hall gatherings.
>>>
>>> ……………………………………………………………………………………………………….
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> UPDATE:
>>>
>>> AFL-CIO Secretary Treasurer Richard Trumka sends out a scathing
>>> statement about the town halls, hitting on Sweeney’s themes and
>>> calling the events corporate funded.
>>>
>>>
>>> Every American has the inalienable right to participate in our
>>> democratic process.
>>>
>>> Our politics is passionate, heartfelt and often loud — as was the
>>> founding of our nation.
>>>
>>> But that is not what the corporate-funded mobs are engaging in when
>>> they show up to disrupt town halls held by members of Congress.
>>>
>>> Major health care reform is closer than ever to passage and it is no
>>> secret that special interests want to weaken or block it.
>>>
>>> These mobs are not there to participate.
>>>
>>> As their own strategy memo states, they have been sent by their
>>> corporate and lobbyist bankrollers to disrupt, heckle and block
>>> meaningful debate.
>>>
>>> This is a desperation move, meant to slow the momentum for change.
>>>
>>> Mob rule is not democracy.
>>>
>>> People have a democratic right to express themselves and our elected
>>> leaders have a right to hear from their constituents — not organized
>>> thugs whose sole purpose is to shut down the conversation and attempt
>>> to scare our leaders into inaction
>>>
>>> We call on the insurance companies, the lobbyists and the Republican
>>> leaders who are cheering them on to halt these ‘Brooks Brothers Riot‘
>>> tactics.
>>>
>>> Health care is a crucial issue and everyone – on all sides of the
>>> issue – deserves to be heard.
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________
>>>
>>> LET‘S ROLL!!!
>>
>> Excellent!
>>
>> The news media will report on the riots, not on anything that Obama’s
>> spokesjerks are saying.
>>
>> The headlines will be something like:
>> “Three Dead, Dozens Beaten: Unions Battle Conservatives On the
>> Streets of America.”
>
> The headlines will say something like:
>
> “Right-Wing Harassment Strategy Against Dems Detailed In Memo: ‘Yell,’
> ‘Stand Up And Shout Out,’ ‘Rattle Him’”
>
> http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/31/recess-harassment-memo/
>
>>
>> And that will totally displace any discussions of health care!
>
> Nope, health care will be discussed in spite of the efforts of the Repug
> goons to suppress free speech.

Obama never wanted anyone to learn what was in this health care bill,
this is much better than just having police maintain order. With Obama
calling out his thugs instead of police, he can stop any discussion of
health care until they can push a fast vote in congress.

*BE VERY CONCERNED*

Re: Town Hall Showdowns: Unions to take on RepbliNazi storm troopers

admin — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:21:21 +0000

Clear Thinker wrote:
> On Aug 6, 10:22 am, H&*$?%e wrote:
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/06/unions-to-take-on-conserv_n_…
>>
>> 8-6-09
>>
>> Unions To Take On Conservative Groups Health Care Town Halls
>>
>> By Sam Stein
>>
>> The nation’s largest federation of labor organizations has promised to
>> directly engage with boisterous conservative protesters at Democratic
>> town halls during the August recess.
>>
>> In a memo sent out on Thursday, AFL-CIO President John Sweeney
>> outlined the blueprint for how the union conglomerate would step up
>> recess activities on health care reform and other topics pertinent to
>> the labor community.
>>
>> The document makes clear that Obama allies view the town hall forums
>> as ground zero of the health care debate.
>>
>> It also uses the specter of the infamous 2000 recount “Brooks
>> Brothers” protest to rally its members to the administration’s side.
>>
>> “The principal battleground in the campaign will be town hall meetings
>> and other gatherings with members of Congress in their home
>> districts,” reads the memo.
>>
>> “We want your help to organize major union participation to counter
>> the right-wing “Tea-Party Patriots” who will try to disrupt those
>> meetings, as they’ve been trying to do to meetings for the last month.
>> …
>> (Remember the hooligans – many of them Republican Congressional staff
>> – who harassed Florida vote counters in 2000? We can’t let that happen
>> again!).”
>>
>> A showdown between unions and grassroots conservative organizations
>> could make for an August full of fireworks, with even more
>> dysfunctional town hall meetings.
>>
>> The AFL-CIO is planning to target 50 “high priority districts,” in
>> addition to organizing telephone town hall gatherings.
>>
>> ……………………………………………………………………………………………………….
>>
>> UPDATE:
>>
>> AFL-CIO Secretary Treasurer Richard Trumka sends out a scathing
>> statement about the town halls, hitting on Sweeney’s themes and
>> calling the events corporate funded.
>>
>> Every American has the inalienable right to participate in our
>> democratic process.
>>
>> Our politics is passionate, heartfelt and often loud — as was the
>> founding of our nation.
>>
>> But that is not what the corporate-funded mobs are engaging in when
>> they show up to disrupt town halls held by members of Congress.
>>
>> Major health care reform is closer than ever to passage and it is no
>> secret that special interests want to weaken or block it.
>>
>> These mobs are not there to participate.
>>
>> As their own strategy memo states, they have been sent by their
>> corporate and lobbyist bankrollers to disrupt, heckle and block
>> meaningful debate.
>>
>> This is a desperation move, meant to slow the momentum for change.
>>
>> Mob rule is not democracy.
>>
>> People have a democratic right to express themselves and our elected
>> leaders have a right to hear from their constituents — not organized
>> thugs whose sole purpose is to shut down the conversation and attempt
>> to scare our leaders into inaction
>>
>> We call on the insurance companies, the lobbyists and the Republican
>> leaders who are cheering them on to halt these ‘Brooks Brothers Riot‘
>> tactics.
>>
>> Health care is a crucial issue and everyone – on all sides of the
>> issue – deserves to be heard.
>>
>> _________________________________________________
>>
>> LET‘S ROLL!!!
>>
>> Harry
>
> Unions are for people who can’t think for themselves. This explains

Unions are the last hope for the terminally lazy.

If Unions were needed at one time, they are typical of (GSE‘s)
*Government Sponsored entities* , they never die. Even when they have
served their purpose they still continue to be supported. Like too many
laws stay on the books a hundred years too long.

Take the proverbial buggy whip factory, we no longer need them but under
a Socialist Obama Government, they would continue to be funded and
supported for a hundred years past their time.

> why nearly all union members are democrats. Unions are populated by
> low skilled, low IQ individuals who are easily led, and will vote for
> anyone who promises something for nothing. Labor unions are a clear
> and present danger to the security of this nation. Look at Detroit,
> the shining beacon of labor union accomplishment.

Re: Desperate, pathetic tea party lunatics compare Obama to Hitler

admin — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:42:50 +0000

Tempest wrote:
> On Jul 6, 10:18 am, n…@epix.net wrote:
>> On Jul 6, 12:31 pm, H&*$?%e wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> http://thinkprogress.org/2009/07/06/teaparty-obama-hitler/
>>> July 6th, 2009
>>> Jacksonville Tea Party Protest Features Signs Comparing President
>>> Obama To Hitler
>>> During July 4th celebrations last weekend, anti-Obama protesters again
>>> assembled for tea parties across the country.
>>> The Washington Independent has noted that the tea party movement has
>>> lost steam since April, and that the protests last weekend were
>>> sporadic.http://washingtonindependent.com/49616/tea-party-movement-loses-steam
>>> In Jacksonville, FL, attendance was estimated to be 4,500 people for
>>> the April protest,http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/stories/2009/04/13/daily24.html
>>> but last week drew only 1,000.http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-07-03/story/tea_party_dra…
>>> The Duval County Republican Party, one of the organizers of the
>>> Jacksonville protest, has been engulfed in controversy because of
>>> numerous posters featured at the rally depicting President Obama as
>>> Adolf Hitler:http://jaxpolitics.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/duval-gop-in-controversy-…
>>> http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/teapartyjacksonvi…
>>> The Duval County Republican Party posted the pictures on the Party
>>> Facebook page.
>>> Racist and offensive posters have become a norm for tea parties,http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/racist_signs_at_te…
>>> with signs comparing Obama to Osama Bin Laden distributed at the very
>>> first rallies.http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/23/impeach-protest-obama/
>>> Though the Duval County GOP has tried to disassociate itself from the
>>> protest,http://www.jaxobserver.com/2009/07/05/duval-gop-chairman-addresses-te…
>>> a new ad campaign, paid for by other tea party organizers,http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/issues/taxdayteaparties.html
>>> compares Obama to Hitler.http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/7/2/749151/-New-Rightwing-Ad-C…
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>> Sick, sick, sick folks, eh?
>>> Harry
>> But it was ok when people on your side compared Bush with Hitler right
>> harry? What’s good for the goose is not good for the gander? If ya
>> do’t like your messia criticized I suggest ya move. Otherwise it will
>> be a long 4-8 years for ya.-
>
> The comparisons with Bush and Hitler had a ring of truth to it.
>

As does Obama and Karl Marx.

> Both were not elected to office.

Both Obama and Marx believe in redistribution of wealth.

>
> Both used a tragedy to pass laws that ignored civil rights and
> shredded their country’s constitutions.

Both Obama and Marx ignore individual rights endowed by our creator.

>
> Both used the doctrine of pre-emptive wars.
>

Both Obama and Marx used the doctrine of class warfare.

> Both used patriotism to stifle dissent.

Both Obama and “Marx argued that capitalism, like previous socioeconomic
systems, will produce internal tensions which will lead to its destruction.”

> And on and on.

and on and on.