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		<title>The bankruptcy courts will decide which path to follow in the near future&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 1/27/2012 3:40 AM, retrogrouch @&#038;*$?%comcast.net wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:59:06 -0700, lsrlts wrote: > >>> Selling off public assets is the sure way to ruin. >>> It&#8217;s the Republican way >> >> >> Taxing us into unpayable debt is the Dem way. > > > As opposed to spending our way [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 1/27/2012 3:40 AM, <a href="mailto:retrogrouch<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>comcast.net">retrogrouch<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>comcast.net</a> wrote:<br />
> <strong>On Thu</strong>, 26 Jan 2012 18:59:06 -0700, lsrlts
<dddr @g.nail> wrote:<br />
><br />
>>> Selling off public assets is the sure way to ruin.<br />
>>> It&#8217;s the Republican way<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Taxing us into unpayable debt is the Dem way.<br />
><br />
><br />
> As opposed to spending our way into debt the <strong>GOP</strong> way:<br />
> <a href="http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm" >http://www.skymachines.com/US-National-Debt-Per-Capita-Percent-of-GDP-and-by-Presidental-Term.htm</a><br />
><br />
> Chuckle (he&#8217;s always telling us we&#8217;re so partisan. Every so often he<br />
> shows his real colors.)</p>
<p>The bankruptcy courts will decide which path to follow in the near<br />
<strong>future</strong>&#8230;.</p>
</dddr>
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		<title>If you work for a living you pay the highest taxes! Romney Says His Effective Tax Rate Is &#8216;Probably&#8217; 15%</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 1/18/2012 10:20 AM, Sid9 wrote: > > &#8220;Gary Forbis&#8221; wrote in message > news:e814abf1-6488-40c3-9dd4-47e5b958c2a7 @&#038;*$?%gg10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com&#8230; >> I think we have to disagree again about that CBO report. >> We&#8217;ve covered this area before. While CBO is supposed to be >> party independent it isn&#8217;t always. >> >> On Jan 18, 5:11 am, jane wrote: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 1/18/2012 <strong>10</strong>:20 AM, Sid9 wrote:<br />
><br />
> &#8220;Gary Forbis&#8221; <forbisgaryg @msn.com> wrote in message<br />
> news:e814abf1-6488-40c3-9dd4-47e5b958c2a7<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>gg10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com&#8230;<br />
>> I think we have to disagree again about that <strong>CBO</strong> report.<br />
>> We&#8217;ve covered this area before.  While <strong>CBO</strong> is supposed to be<br />
>> party independent it isn&#8217;t always.<br />
>><br />
>> On Jan 18, 5:<strong>11</strong> am, jane <jane .pla...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>>> On Jan 18, 2:04 am, Gary Forbis <forbisga ...@msn.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>  For<br />
>>> example, they use the <strong>SS</strong> <strong>insurance</strong> program to try and stimulate the<br />
>>> economy by lowering the <strong>insurance</strong> premiums at a time when the <strong>SS</strong><br />
>>> program is running a deficit.<br />
>><br />
>> It&#8217;s still not running a deficit.  It is using some of its interest<br />
>> payment.<br />
>> The fund is still growing year over year.<br />
><br />
> I need to pause and shed a tear for our tax <strong>system</strong> that has impoverished<br />
> the wealthy among us.<br />
> What bullshit!</p>
<p>Worse is the tax <strong>system</strong> hurts <strong>the poor</strong> by killing job creation.</p>
<p>The <strong>system</strong> is built to keep the Private sector working and growing but<br />
Obama&#8217;s <strong>Socialism</strong> and <strong>BIG</strong> <strong>GOVERNMENT</strong> supported by high <strong>taxes</strong> is causing<br />
the opposite to happen.</p>
<p>Every dollar printed or borrowed is a tax, because someone has to pay<br />
it. If NOT you today, your child tomorrow.  But it will be paid by the<br />
<strong>GDP</strong> and the Private sector that pays all bills for all the Government<br />
spending.  And when you have government using the <strong>GDP</strong>, the Private<br />
sector has less to use to grow and expand.</p>
<p>The scales are no longer balanced.    Government is too heavy and the<br />
Private sector can&#8217;t continue to hold up the weight of the Government<br />
<strong>Socialism</strong>.  The Private sector is/has been shrinking.</p>
<p></forbisga></jane></forbisgaryg></p>
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		<title>US GDP Revised Down 50 % last Quarter</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/30/2011 11:32 AM, ØBAMAGGOT OCCUTARDS wrote: > Funny how every time Obama releases this data, its always faked > higher then reality, then revised down quietly later when Obama thinks > no one is looking. > > > Productivity Weaker Than Thought, Wages Slip > Published: Wednesday, 30 Nov 2011 &#124; 8:38 AM ET [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/30/2011 <strong>11</strong>:32 AM, Ø<strong>BAMAGGOT</strong> <strong>OCCUTARDS</strong> wrote:<br />
> Funny how every time  Obama  releases this data, its always  faked<br />
> higher then reality, then revised down quietly later when Obama thinks<br />
> no one is looking.<br />
><br />
><br />
> Productivity Weaker Than Thought, Wages Slip<br />
> Published: Wednesday, 30 Nov 2011 | 8:38 AM <strong>ET</strong> Text Size By: Reuters<br />
><br />
> The rebound in U.S. nonfarm productivity growth was not as strong as<br />
> previously estimated in the third quarter, while wages declined for two<br />
> straight quarters, supporting the <strong>Federal</strong> Reserve&#8217;s views of moderate<br />
> inflation pressures.<br />
><br />
> Productivity <strong>increased</strong> at a 2.3 percent annual rate, the Labor<br />
> Department said on Wednesday, a downward revision to its previous<br />
> estimate of 3.1 percent.<br />
><br />
> <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/45490805" >http://www.cnbc.com/id/45490805</a></p>
<p>The Obamanistas are all <strong>LIARS</strong>, you&#8217;re making a mistake if you believe<br />
the first number is the only lie.</p>
<p>They lie about the adjustment too&#8230;.</p>
<p>*<strong>EVERYTHING</strong> FROM AND CONNECTED TO <strong>OBAMA</strong> IS A <strong>LIE</strong>*</p>
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		<title>Taxing the 1%</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/27/2011 10:44 AM, Transition Zone wrote: > On Nov 26, 1:47 pm, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: >> On 11/26/2011 12:52 PM, Repubs Lost Unpaid Wars wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Nov 15, 11:09 am, BeamMeUpScotty >>> wrote: >>>> On 11/15/2011 10:50 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote: >> >>>>> On Nov 11, 1:44 pm, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/27/2011 <strong>10</strong>:44 AM, <strong>Transition Zone</strong> wrote:<br />
> On Nov 26, 1:47 pm, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/26/2011 12:52 PM, <strong>Repubs Lost Unpaid Wars</strong> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>> On Nov 15, <strong>11</strong>:09 am, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>>> </thendestroyeveryth>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/15/2011 <strong>10</strong>:50 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>> On Nov <strong>11</strong>, 1:44 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2 ...@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />
>>>>>> On Nov <strong>10</strong>, 8:08 pm, <strong><acronym title="Day Brown"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> D&*$?%n</span></acronym></strong> <dayhbr ...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>> Thing is the 99% Occupy movement is global. So, if we decide to tax<br />
>>>>>>> the rich, where are they gonna go with the <strong>money</strong>?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> A return to Eisenhower-era 90% top tax rates helps fix our economy in<br />
>>>>>> several ways:<br />
>><br />
>>>> It destroys the private sector economy&#8230;.<br />
>><br />
>>> It didn&#8217;t during the Eisenhower-era.<br />
>><br />
>> Yet they saw the need to lower it to keep the growth happening.<br />
><br />
> Why should we believe you now?  You just said a 90% tax on the rich<br />
> would destroy private industry and it didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The point was that it will destroy the private sectors <strong>GDP</strong>&#8230;..   I used<br />
a company and industry as a micro economic example, then extrapolate<br />
that into Macro economic National scale.</p>
<p>The <strong>GDP</strong> will get smaller.</p>
<p>And the 94-70% tax was lowered for a reason, and the <strong>GDP</strong> under that tax<br />
was ~6% while before that high tax rate the <strong>GDP</strong> was ~16%, and that is<br />
why 70-90% tax will destroy the <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
<p>Remember that you have averaged 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> as a tax base.  When you<br />
destroy the economy and the <strong>GDP</strong> you get less <strong>money</strong> into that <strong>Federal</strong><br />
Treasury.</p>
<p>18% of $14trillion <strong>GDP</strong>, is more than 18% of a $10trillion <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
<p>Since you average 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> income to the Treasury, your best way to<br />
get more funds into the Treasury is to make the <strong>GDP</strong> grow, and that way<br />
18% of a bigger pie is more <strong>taxes</strong> that end up in the Treasury.</p>
<p>Raising <strong>taxes</strong> high gives a short tax income blip and then a shrinking<br />
<strong>GDP</strong>&#8230;.  Lowering <strong>taxes</strong> gives an expanding <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
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		<title>Taxing the 1%</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/26/2011 12:52 PM, Repubs Lost Unpaid Wars wrote: > On Nov 15, 11:09 am, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: >> On 11/15/2011 10:50 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote: >> >>> On Nov 11, 1:44 pm, Immortalist wrote: >>>> On Nov 10, 8:08 pm, D&#038;*$?%n wrote: >> >>>>> Thing is the 99% Occupy movement is global. So, if [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/26/2011 12:52 PM, <strong>Repubs Lost Unpaid Wars</strong> wrote:<br />
> On Nov 15, <strong>11</strong>:09 am, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/15/2011 <strong>10</strong>:50 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> On Nov <strong>11</strong>, 1:44 pm, Immortalist <reanimater_2 ...@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> On Nov <strong>10</strong>, 8:08 pm, <strong><acronym title="Day Brown"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> D&*$?%n</span></acronym></strong> <dayhbr ...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>> Thing is the 99% Occupy movement is global. So, if we decide to tax<br />
>>>>> the rich, where are they gonna go with the <strong>money</strong>?<br />
>><br />
>>>> A return to Eisenhower-era 90% top tax rates helps fix our economy in<br />
>>>> several ways:<br />
>><br />
>> It destroys the private sector economy&#8230;.<br />
><br />
> It didn&#8217;t during the Eisenhower-era.</p>
<p>Yet they saw the need to lower it to keep the growth happening.</p>
<p>That 70% tax was stifling things and it took a lot of damage to stifle<br />
the post war economy but the 70% tax rate was doing it.</p>
<p><strong>GDP</strong> went from 16% when <strong>taxes</strong> were below the 70% to 6% when <strong>taxes</strong> were<br />
raised to above 70%.</p>
<p>Personally I say raise it to 70% and with an absolute sunset for 12 or<br />
24 months with zero ability for renewal for it&#8230;&#8230;    and see the<br />
economy fall in the toilet and into <strong>Deeper Depression</strong> for two to five<br />
years, and then we can be done with Obama and all this Liberal-Socialist<br />
tax policy and socialism for a while.</p>
<p>All the capital will run away and hide and there will be zero new<br />
businesses and zero people wanting to come to America to get rich and we<br />
will see the <strong>GDP</strong> plummet.   You will be forced to lower the tax rate to<br />
get the <strong>GDP</strong> growth above <strong>ZERO</strong>.  Crime will rise as people go outside the<br />
economy to the underground economy to make a living&#8230;.</p>
<p></dayhbr></reanimater_2></thendestroyeveryth>
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		<title>If High taxes would solve all our problem then poverty would have been wiped out in 1944 when income taxes were at 94%.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/23/2011 11:38 AM, Sid9 wrote: > > &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221; wrote in > message news:4ECD1FEF.7080203 @&#038;*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230; >> On 11/22/2011 9:34 PM, Yoorghis @&#038;*$?%Jurgis.net wrote: >>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:59:48 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Even that idea has no merit. Since corporations can be profitable when >>>> they fire thousands of people. >>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>23</strong>/2011 <strong>11</strong>:38 AM, Sid9 wrote:<br />
><br />
> &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221;
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in<br />
> message news:4ECD1FEF.7080203<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230;<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/22/2011 9:34 PM, <a href="mailto:Yoorghis<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Jurgis.net">Yoorghis<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Jurgis.net</a> wrote:<br />
>>> <strong>On Tue</strong>, 22 Nov 2011 13:59:48 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>>> </thendestroyeverything>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>> Even that idea has no merit.  Since corporations can be profitable when<br />
>>>> they fire thousands of people.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Exactly<br />
>>><br />
>>> <strong>SO</strong>&#8212;Scottloon<br />
>>><br />
>>> Taxation doesn&#8217;t harm corporations&#8211;it just revises their profit line<br />
>>><br />
>>> And using the tax code to &#8220;urge&#8221; corporations into behavior more<br />
>>> reasonable for the <strong>welfare</strong> of the nation that protects it&#8212;-should be<br />
>>> a desired thing to do.<br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>> Taxes are part of the cost of the product that consumers buy, of course<br />
>> <strong>taxes</strong> effect corporations, but <strong>taxes</strong> effect the people, by raising their<br />
>> cost of living since they pay the tax when they buy the product.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> There is NO <strong>power</strong> in the constitution that allows congress to use <strong>taxes</strong><br />
>> or taxation/tax code/laws to manipulate corporations or citizens<br />
>> behavior.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> I was pointing out that they can fire people to limit their expenses&#8230;.<br />
>> and by doing that and selling assets and collecting their capital<br />
>> gains, they can report a profit and pay <strong>taxes</strong> and dividends.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> The point being that <strong>GDP</strong> falls less but the economy is shrinking despite<br />
>> skewed numbers.<br />
>><br />
>> *Raising <strong>taxes</strong> doesn&#8217;t make the economy grow or get anyone hired*<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> &#8211;<br />
>><br />
><br />
> You need to be more specific.<br />
> Corporate income tax is NOT part of the cost of the product.</p>
<p>Tell me&#8230;  from whom, the <strong>money</strong> comes from to pay that tax.  The <strong>money</strong><br />
is embedded in the cost of the production.  If they sell no products<br />
they pay no tax, if they sell those items they pay a tax.</p>
<p>> Corporate income tax does not raise the price of a product.</p>
<p>I earn enough to buy cable <strong>TV</strong> that costs ~$100,  I had to earn $130<br />
because there is a ~30% <strong>Federal</strong> income tax&#8230;.   I buy the cable and<br />
there are 9 <strong>taxes</strong> on the cable bill that cost a total of ~$<strong>10</strong>.00 which<br />
cost me an additional $3.00 in income tax to earn</p>
<p>It ends up that I had to earn $143.00 to buy my $100 product thanks to<br />
all my <strong>taxes</strong> and still in the cost of that $100 is the 35% tax that the<br />
<strong>Federal</strong> corporate income tax will be&#8230;.</p>
<p>Given that they make a reasonable 8% profit&#8230;..  that would mean that<br />
$8.00 of that $100 they charged me is going to the <strong>Federal</strong> corporate<br />
income tax.</p>
<p>So I earned $143 to buy $92.00 worth of cable from which government has<br />
made ~$51.00</p>
<p>That means government cost me $51.00 for the privilege of buying $92.00<br />
worth of product.  That is a tax real rate of about 50% and that is reality.</p>
<p>> Try a college level course in the Economics department called &#8220;Price<br />
> Theory&#8221;</p>
<p>Try reality, I already had micro/macro economics at a State university.</p>
<p>If the cost of cable rises any more, the reason being tax or labor or<br />
even electricity, it is irrelevant why but the cost will make the<br />
service/product too expensive for the return value and I might NOT<br />
choose to spend my discretionary income for that.  I can just use the 4G<br />
WiFi of the cell phone service that I already have that is only $45.</p>
<p>Then the economy and the CATV market will take a hit as more people do<br />
the same thing.</p>
<p>An example is NetFlix and when they raised the price of their product<br />
because the owner said he felt like it.  He wanted to raise the price<br />
and didn&#8217;t understand the numbers, NetFlix lost a lot of customers and<br />
the company stock value is down 25% in one quarter.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thirdage.com/news/nflx-netflix-stocks-loses-quarter-of-its-value_09-20-2011" >http://www.thirdage.com/news/nflx-netflix-stocks-loses-quarter-of-its-value_09-20-2011</a></p>
<p>Down today  by about 70%</p>
<p><a href="http://ir.netflix.com/stockquote.cfm" >http://ir.netflix.com/stockquote.cfm</a></p>
<p>That should tell  you that raising <strong>taxes</strong> and making <strong>regulations</strong> can also<br />
destroy a market.   Which is why we are where we are&#8230;.  Government<br />
<strong>regulations</strong> and <strong>taxes</strong> are the reason people and economy are down where<br />
they are.  Micro/Macro</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/24/2011 11:15 AM, deep @&#038;*$?%dudu.org wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:53:30 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: > >> On 11/24/2011 2:54 AM, Mr.B1ack wrote: >>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/23/2011 11:58 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote: >>>>> Hmmmm &#8230; if corporate profits are up, isn&#8217;t that >>>>> bounty supposed to &#8216;trickle down&#8217; according to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/24/2011 <strong>11</strong>:15 AM, <a href="mailto:deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org">deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
> <strong>On Thu</strong>, 24 Nov 2011 <strong>10</strong>:53:30 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/24/2011 2:54 AM, Mr.B1ack wrote:<br />
>>> BeamMeUpScotty </thendestroyeverything>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>23</strong>/2011 <strong>11</strong>:58 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote:<br />
>>>>> Hmmmm &#8230; if corporate profits are up, isn&#8217;t that<br />
>>>>> bounty supposed to &#8216;trickle down&#8217; according to<br />
>>>>> the Reaganomic model ???<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Something&#8217;s trickling down, but it ain&#8217;t <strong>money</strong> &#8230;<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Yea, yea, I know it&#8217;s not as simple as that, but<br />
>>>>> this IS an election year and we&#8217;re not suppose to<br />
>>>>> think very deeply about issues  <img src='http://outsourcenews.net/ng/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> NO&#8230; the reason the profits are up is that they fired millions and then<br />
>>>> give no raises to millions more&#8230;..   Unless you work in Government<br />
>>>> jobs like <strong>Fannie</strong> Mae<br />
>>><br />
>>>    Of course, they dumped the &#8216;dead weight&#8217; &#8230; people<br />
>>>    who weren&#8217;t necessary/contributing to the bottom line<br />
>>>    as it exists at the moment.<br />
>>><br />
>>>    But we&#8217;re not supposed to think about that. Slogans<br />
>>>    and sound-bites &#8230;&#8230;.<br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>> *Exactly*<br />
>><br />
>>>> Private Sector business is down, while profits are up?  Doesn&#8217;t that<br />
>>>> scream &#8220;something is very wrong&#8221;<br />
>>><br />
>>>    Not as many customers. Dump the dead weight. Fly high.<br />
>>><br />
>>>    Simple really.<br />
>><br />
>> You got it!<br />
>><br />
>>><br />
>>>> The corporations are cannibalizing themselves.<br />
>>><br />
>>>    Oh, they&#8217;ve got everyone on the hook. If they wanna<br />
>>>    hire tomorrow they&#8217;ll have no end of prospects.<br />
>><br />
>> Things go awry here&#8230;.<br />
>><br />
>> and that&#8217;s true that they can grow later, except that they&#8217;re selling<br />
>> their assets.<br />
>><br />
>> Things will look different, when they start to hire.<br />
>> I just got a letter that one of my investments was bought by a Japanese<br />
>> firm.<br />
>><br />
>> That is the selling of assets that I speak of.<br />
>><br />
>> The old owner will be flush with cash for a short time from the sale.<br />
>> In the end the original American owner will have fewer employees and<br />
>> fewer assets. The American companies economy is shrinking and so is all<br />
>> of America&#8217;s economy.  The problem is you aren&#8217;t seeing those numbers.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>>> They are also going bankrupt when they haven&#8217;t enough assets to<br />
>>>> liquidate to continue their phony profits scams.<br />
>>><br />
>>>    Yea &#8230; well scams ARE a reality here. Lots of companies<br />
>>>    are horribly over-leveraged &#8230; put all their <strong>money</strong> into<br />
>>>    investments that ain&#8217;t gonna pay off.<br />
>><br />
>> But they are getting bailed out by tax payers like <strong>Fannie</strong> and<br />
>> Freddie&#8230;.  and because of the Socialist policy, economic growth has<br />
>> been killed for the past 3 years and will be for another 7 and maybe<br />
>> <strong>10</strong>-20 years.<br />
>><br />
>> Government is working against the private sector.   The government is a<br />
>> parasite that is consuming it&#8217;s host.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>><br />
>>>    But so long as they can fool the investors, put a happy<br />
>>>    face on things, they&#8217;ll stay in business.<br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>> That happy face skews the income tax and <strong>GDP</strong> data, it looks better than<br />
>> it is, until the wire snaps and then at that point it will be an Apocalypse.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> We are set up so it&#8217;s made easy to fail and very hard to succeed.   We<br />
>> have yet to see the <strong>BIG</strong> crash in this Depression.<br />
><br />
> Get ready for it.  Any day now.  The European house of cards is about<br />
> to come down and take us along with it.  People ain&#8217;t seen nothing<br />
> yet.  This is bought, paid for, and intentionally engineered fiscal<br />
> crisis.  The wealthy paid for it and they&#8217;re damn well going to get<br />
> it.   The best way to rid themselves of that pesky thing known as the<br />
> middle class.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the Political class that wants to crash the economy, it will give<br />
them more <strong>power</strong>. The politicians will profit from a collapse in the<br />
private sector.</p>
<p>And it looks like a particular group are setting themselves up to gain<br />
the most, it&#8217;s the <strong>Socialists</strong> that will call capitalism the problem and<br />
the Socialist political class will get the most <strong>power</strong> from the economic<br />
failure.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;ve been down the road to <strong>Socialism</strong> and it&#8217;s littered with<br />
millions of political murders.  For all the evils that may be<br />
capitalism, it still makes <strong>Socialism</strong> look like the Devil on steroids.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/24/2011 2:54 AM, Mr.B1ack wrote: > BeamMeUpScotty wrote: > >> On 11/23/2011 11:58 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote: >>> Hmmmm &#8230; if corporate profits are up, isn&#8217;t that >>> bounty supposed to &#8216;trickle down&#8217; according to >>> the Reaganomic model ??? >>> >>> Something&#8217;s trickling down, but it ain&#8217;t money &#8230; >>> >>> Yea, yea, I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/24/2011 2:54 AM, Mr.B1ack wrote:<br />
> BeamMeUpScotty
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>23</strong>/2011 <strong>11</strong>:58 PM, Mr.B1ack wrote:<br />
>>> Hmmmm &#8230; if corporate profits are up, isn&#8217;t that<br />
>>> bounty supposed to &#8216;trickle down&#8217; according to<br />
>>> the Reaganomic model ???<br />
>>><br />
>>> Something&#8217;s trickling down, but it ain&#8217;t <strong>money</strong> &#8230;<br />
>>><br />
>>> Yea, yea, I know it&#8217;s not as simple as that, but<br />
>>> this IS an election year and we&#8217;re not suppose to<br />
>>> think very deeply about issues  <img src='http://outsourcenews.net/ng/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>> NO&#8230; the reason the profits are up is that they fired millions and then<br />
>> give no raises to millions more&#8230;..   Unless you work in Government<br />
>> jobs like <strong>Fannie</strong> Mae<br />
><br />
>    Of course, they dumped the &#8216;dead weight&#8217; &#8230; people<br />
>    who weren&#8217;t necessary/contributing to the bottom line<br />
>    as it exists at the moment.<br />
><br />
>    But we&#8217;re not supposed to think about that. Slogans<br />
>    and sound-bites &#8230;&#8230;.<br />
></p>
<p>*Exactly*</p>
<p>>> Private Sector business is down, while profits are up?  Doesn&#8217;t that<br />
>> scream &#8220;something is very wrong&#8221;<br />
><br />
>    Not as many customers. Dump the dead weight. Fly high.<br />
><br />
>    Simple really.</p>
<p>You got it!</p>
<p>><br />
>> The corporations are cannibalizing themselves.<br />
><br />
>    Oh, they&#8217;ve got everyone on the hook. If they wanna<br />
>    hire tomorrow they&#8217;ll have no end of prospects.</p>
<p>Things go awry here&#8230;.</p>
<p>and that&#8217;s true that they can grow later, except that they&#8217;re selling<br />
their assets.</p>
<p>Things will look different, when they start to hire.<br />
I just got a letter that one of my investments was bought by a Japanese<br />
firm.</p>
<p>That is the selling of assets that I speak of.</p>
<p>The old owner will be flush with cash for a short time from the sale.<br />
In the end the original American owner will have fewer employees and<br />
fewer assets. The American companies economy is shrinking and so is all<br />
of America&#8217;s economy.  The problem is you aren&#8217;t seeing those numbers.</p>
<p>>> They are also going bankrupt when they haven&#8217;t enough assets to<br />
>> liquidate to continue their phony profits scams.<br />
><br />
>    Yea &#8230; well scams ARE a reality here. Lots of companies<br />
>    are horribly over-leveraged &#8230; put all their <strong>money</strong> into<br />
>    investments that ain&#8217;t gonna pay off.</p>
<p>But they are getting bailed out by tax payers like <strong>Fannie</strong> and<br />
Freddie&#8230;.  and because of the Socialist policy, economic growth has<br />
been killed for the past 3 years and will be for another 7 and maybe<br />
<strong>10</strong>-20 years.</p>
<p>Government is working against the private sector.   The government is a<br />
parasite that is consuming it&#8217;s host.</p>
<p>><br />
>    But so long as they can fool the investors, put a happy<br />
>    face on things, they&#8217;ll stay in business.<br />
></p>
<p>That happy face skews the income tax and <strong>GDP</strong> data, it looks better than<br />
it is, until the wire snaps and then at that point it will be an Apocalypse.</p>
<p>We are set up so it&#8217;s made easy to fail and very hard to succeed.   We<br />
have yet to see the <strong>BIG</strong> crash in this Depression.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/23/2011 11:38 AM, Sid9 wrote: > > &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221; wrote in > message news:4ECD1FEF.7080203 @&#038;*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230; >> On 11/22/2011 9:34 PM, Yoorghis @&#038;*$?%Jurgis.net wrote: >>> On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:59:48 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Even that idea has no merit. Since corporations can be profitable when >>>> they fire thousands of people. >>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>23</strong>/2011 <strong>11</strong>:38 AM, Sid9 wrote:<br />
><br />
> &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221;
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in<br />
> message news:4ECD1FEF.7080203<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230;<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/22/2011 9:34 PM, <a href="mailto:Yoorghis<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Jurgis.net">Yoorghis<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Jurgis.net</a> wrote:<br />
>>> <strong>On Tue</strong>, 22 Nov 2011 13:59:48 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>>> </thendestroyeverything>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>> Even that idea has no merit.  Since corporations can be profitable when<br />
>>>> they fire thousands of people.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Exactly<br />
>>><br />
>>> <strong>SO</strong>&#8212;Scottloon<br />
>>><br />
>>> Taxation doesn&#8217;t harm corporations&#8211;it just revises their profit line<br />
>>><br />
>>> And using the tax code to &#8220;urge&#8221; corporations into behavior more<br />
>>> reasonable for the <strong>welfare</strong> of the nation that protects it&#8212;-should be<br />
>>> a desired thing to do.<br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>> Taxes are part of the cost of the product that consumers buy, of course<br />
>> <strong>taxes</strong> effect corporations, but <strong>taxes</strong> effect the people, by raising their<br />
>> cost of living since they pay the tax when they buy the product.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> There is NO <strong>power</strong> in the constitution that allows congress to use <strong>taxes</strong><br />
>> or taxation/tax code/laws to manipulate corporations or citizens<br />
>> behavior.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> I was pointing out that they can fire people to limit their expenses&#8230;.<br />
>> and by doing that and selling assets and collecting their capital<br />
>> gains, they can report a profit and pay <strong>taxes</strong> and dividends.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> The point being that <strong>GDP</strong> falls less but the economy is shrinking despite<br />
>> skewed numbers.<br />
>><br />
>> *Raising <strong>taxes</strong> doesn&#8217;t make the economy grow or get anyone hired*<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> &#8211;<br />
>><br />
><br />
> You need to be more specific.<br />
> Corporate income tax is NOT part of the cost of the product.</p>
<p>Tell me&#8230;  from whom, the <strong>money</strong> comes from to pay that tax.  The <strong>money</strong><br />
is embedded in the cost of the production.  If they sell no products<br />
they pay no tax, if they sell those items they pay a tax.</p>
<p>> Corporate income tax does not raise the price of a product.</p>
<p>I earn enough to buy cable <strong>TV</strong> that costs ~$100,  I had to earn $130<br />
because there is a ~30% <strong>Federal</strong> income tax&#8230;.   I buy the cable and<br />
there are 9 <strong>taxes</strong> on the cable bill that cost a total of ~$<strong>10</strong>.00.</p>
<p>It ends up that I had to earn $140.00 to buy my $100 product thanks to<br />
all my <strong>taxes</strong> and still in the cost of that $100 is the 35% tax that the<br />
<strong>Federal</strong> corporate income tax will be&#8230;.</p>
<p>Given that they make a reasonable 8% profit&#8230;..  that would mean that<br />
$8.00 of that $100 they charged me is going to the <strong>Federal</strong> corporate<br />
income tax.</p>
<p>So I earned $140 to buy $92.00 worth of cable from which government made<br />
has ~$48.00</p>
<p>That means government cost me $48.00 for the privilege of buying $92.00<br />
worth of product.  That is a tax rate of about 50% and that is reality.</p>
<p>> Try a college level course in the Economics department called &#8220;Price<br />
> Theory&#8221;</p>
<p>Try reality, I already had micro/macro economics at a State university.</p>
<p>If the cost of cable rises any more, the reason being tax or labor or<br />
even electricity, it is irrelevant why but the cost will make the<br />
service/product too expensive for the return value and I might NOT<br />
choose to spend my discretionary income for that.  I can just use the 4G<br />
WiFi of the cell phone service that I already have that is only $45.</p>
<p>Then the economy and the CATV market will take a hit as more people do<br />
the same thing.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/22/2011 9:34 PM, Yoorghis @&#038;*$?%Jurgis.net wrote: > On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 13:59:48 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: > >> Even that idea has no merit. Since corporations can be profitable when >> they fire thousands of people. > > Exactly > > SO&#8212;Scottloon > > Taxation doesn&#8217;t harm corporations&#8211;it just revises their profit line [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/22/2011 9:34 PM, <a href="mailto:Yoorghis<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Jurgis.net">Yoorghis<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Jurgis.net</a> wrote:<br />
> <strong>On Tue</strong>, 22 Nov 2011 13:59:48 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> Even that idea has no merit.  Since corporations can be profitable when<br />
>> they fire thousands of people.<br />
><br />
> Exactly<br />
><br />
> <strong>SO</strong>&#8212;Scottloon<br />
><br />
> Taxation doesn&#8217;t harm corporations&#8211;it just revises their profit line<br />
><br />
> And using the tax code to &#8220;urge&#8221; corporations into behavior more<br />
> reasonable for the <strong>welfare</strong> of the nation that protects it&#8212;-should be<br />
> a desired thing to do.<br />
></p>
<p>Taxes are part of the cost of the product that consumers buy, of course<br />
<strong>taxes</strong> effect corporations, but <strong>taxes</strong> effect the people, by raising their<br />
cost of living since they pay the tax when they buy the product.</p>
<p>There is NO <strong>power</strong> in the constitution that allows congress to use <strong>taxes</strong><br />
or taxation/tax code/laws to manipulate corporations or citizens behavior.</p>
<p>I was pointing out that they can fire people to limit their expenses&#8230;.<br />
and by doing that and selling assets and collecting their capital<br />
gains, they can report a profit and pay <strong>taxes</strong> and dividends.</p>
<p>The point being that <strong>GDP</strong> falls less but the economy is shrinking despite<br />
skewed numbers.</p>
<p>*Raising <strong>taxes</strong> doesn&#8217;t make the economy grow or get anyone hired*</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/22/2011 2:34 PM, Sid9 wrote: > > &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221; wrote in > message news:4ECBF124.1050201 @&#038;*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230; >> On 11/21/2011 9:26 PM, Milt wrote: >>> On Nov 21, 5:52 pm, BeamMeUpScotty >>> wrote: >>>> On 11/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 21, 10:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty >>>>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/22/2011 2:34 PM, Sid9 wrote:<br />
><br />
> &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221;
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in<br />
> message news:4ECBF124.1050201<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230;<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:26 PM, Milt wrote:<br />
>>> On Nov 21, 5:52 pm, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>>>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> On Nov 21, <strong>10</strong>:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>>>>> </thendestroyeveryth>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:48 AM, <a href="mailto:d...@dudu.org">d&#8230;@dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>>> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;C&#8230;@PrayForMe.com&#8221;<br />
>>>>>>> <c ...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> WHAT <strong>PAERT</strong> OF NO <strong>NEW</strong> TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU <strong>UNDERSTAND</strong>?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> <strong>GUBMENT</strong> MUST <strong>LEARN</strong> TO DO <strong>WTHOUT</strong>!<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>>> It&#8217;s not the &#8220;gubment&#8221; that going to have to do without,<br />
>>>>>>> dumbass.  So<br />
>>>>>>> who&#8217;s benefits get cut?  Oh I know, everybody&#8217;s but yours.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> If High taxes would solve all our problems then poverty would have<br />
>>>>>> been<br />
>>>>>> wiped out in 1944 &#8211; 1986 when income taxes were as high as 94%.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> Income Tax Act of 1944<br />
>>>>>> 1944    24      <strong>23</strong>%     94%     $200,000        $2.54M  Individual<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> to 1981 where it was 70% and dropped in 1986 to 38%.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> The <strong>HIGH</strong> <strong>TAX</strong> wasn&#8217;t a cure for poverty.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> Can you tell us why it failed?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> Poverty was much lower when tax rates were 70% and above than it is<br />
>>>>> now.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> So you&#8217;re saying that we spend more now and poverty is worse, isn&#8217;t<br />
>>>> that<br />
>>>> a catch-22  when you admit that things were better then and worse now?<br />
>>><br />
>>> Poverty was getting better before we hit neocon-land.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> It would seem to indicate that spending less was better.<br />
>>><br />
>>> We spend less and there&#8217;s more poverty.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Spending less must be better than spending more(you just said so)&#8230;.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Oh wait the Treasury still took in about 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> so raising taxes<br />
>>>> had<br />
>>>> almost zero effect on <strong>Federal</strong> funds to taken in to spend back in 1944<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> so you need to tax more and/or spend less, start by spending less and<br />
>>>> see if that is sufficient and if NOT then we would be forced to look at<br />
>>>> something else.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>><br />
>>> Forget that you just pulled the number out of your <acronym title="ass"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%s</span></acronym>. Percent of <strong>GDP</strong><br />
>>> has nothing to do with this issue. When poverty is high, revenues as<br />
>>> percent of <strong>GDP</strong> will always be higher, because there are fewer<br />
>>> taxpayers, and thus less revenue.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> That didn&#8217;t make sense, but I think I see what you were trying to say.<br />
>><br />
>> did you mean when poverty is high, revenues will be low, due to<br />
>> <strong>unemployment</strong>?<br />
>><br />
>> Even that idea has no merit.  Since corporations can be profitable when<br />
>> they fire thousands of people.   We just went through that, when<br />
>> everyone trimmed the payroll in order to prepare for the Obama created<br />
>> Depression.<br />
>><br />
>> THAT SAID&#8230;.<br />
>><br />
>> The <strong>GDP</strong> will be an issue because it has a ceiling and that is 18%, raise<br />
>> and lower <strong>Federal</strong> taxes all you want but you will end up with an average<br />
>> within a few points of that 18% average.<br />
>><br />
>> It&#8217;s just how history has come to pass.  Given that truth, when<br />
>> government spends more than 18% it is going to be long term deficit<br />
>> spending.<br />
>><br />
>> Raise taxes higher to get more than an average 18%&#8230;  and you will be<br />
>> suppressing economic activity and gaining no real revenue.  The so<br />
>> called boom from high 94% taxes was an average 2% and that slowed the<br />
>> economy to the point that they were soon lowering those taxes to<br />
>> encourage economic growth and the fall in <strong>Federal</strong> taxes continued in<br />
>> incremental steps up and down until it was at 38%<br />
>><br />
>> Look at the 1920 Depression, taxes rise to 70% then crash of the<br />
>> economy, then the fall of the taxes.   They taxed higher until it<br />
>> crashed. Then they lowered taxes until it started to grow.<br />
>><br />
>> Here at the graph below is deficit spending in <strong>RED</strong> and the actual Total<br />
>> <strong>Federal</strong> Revenue is in BLUE.<br />
>><br />
>> <strong>NOTICE</strong> THAT THE 94% tax rate in 1944 didn&#8217;t raise enough revenue to<br />
>> cover the deficit spending and it crushes the economy/<strong>GDP</strong>.  1943 the<br />
>> previous year to 1944 the growth of the <strong>GDP</strong> was 30-40 billion dollars<br />
>> per year and after the 94% tax rate the <strong>GDP</strong> growth was a muted 8-<strong>10</strong><br />
>> billion dollars.  The <strong>GDP</strong> went from a 16% growth in 1943 to 6% in 1944.<br />
>><br />
>> It was a 6% growth rate after the tax rate was known to increase to a<br />
>> top rate of 94%&#8230;..  That indicates a <strong>10</strong>% loss in growth of the <strong>GDP</strong><br />
>> from before 1943 to after 1944 and that correlates to the rise in the<br />
>> federal income tax top rates.<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://prntscr.com/46m9e" >http://prntscr.com/46m9e</a><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> As I have been saying, the high taxes will slow growth(with no<br />
>> sustainable revenue benefit) and even today we see the threat of new<br />
>> high taxes has muted the growth.  We will NOT grow until Obama the<br />
>> Socialist &#8220;redistribution&#8221; King (Obama) is removed from his throne.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> &#8211;<br />
>><br />
><br />
> False.<br />
> That&#8217;s St <strong>Reagan</strong>&#8216;s and Grover Norquist&#8217;s bullshit all over again.</p>
<p>I see all your proof and I have to say your extensive facts and flawless<br />
logic based on your proof was awesome.  <img src='http://outsourcenews.net/ng/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You have reaffirmed my beliefs about Liberals.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/21/2011 9:26 PM, Milt wrote: > On Nov 21, 5:52 pm, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: >> On 11/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Nov 21, 10:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty >>> wrote: >>>> On 11/21/2011 9:48 AM, d&#8230;@dudu.org wrote: >> >>>>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:26 PM, Milt wrote:<br />
> On Nov 21, 5:52 pm, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>> On Nov 21, <strong>10</strong>:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>>> </thendestroyeveryth>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:48 AM, <a href="mailto:d...@dudu.org">d&#8230;@dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;C&#8230;@PrayForMe.com&#8221;<br />
>>>>> <c ...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> WHAT <strong>PAERT</strong> OF NO <strong>NEW</strong> TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU <strong>UNDERSTAND</strong>?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> <strong>GUBMENT</strong> MUST <strong>LEARN</strong> TO DO <strong>WTHOUT</strong>!<br />
>><br />
>>>>> It&#8217;s not the &#8220;gubment&#8221; that going to have to do without, dumbass.  So<br />
>>>>> who&#8217;s benefits get cut?  Oh I know, everybody&#8217;s but yours.<br />
>><br />
>>>> If High taxes would solve all our problems then poverty would have been<br />
>>>> wiped out in 1944 &#8211; 1986 when income taxes were as high as 94%.<br />
>><br />
>>>> Income Tax Act of 1944<br />
>>>> 1944    24      <strong>23</strong>%     94%     $200,000        $2.54M  Individual<br />
>><br />
>>>> to 1981 where it was 70% and dropped in 1986 to 38%.<br />
>><br />
>>>> The <strong>HIGH</strong> <strong>TAX</strong> wasn&#8217;t a cure for poverty.<br />
>><br />
>>>> Can you tell us why it failed?<br />
>><br />
>>>> &#8211;<br />
>><br />
>>> Poverty was much lower when tax rates were 70% and above than it is<br />
>>> now.<br />
>><br />
>> So you&#8217;re saying that we spend more now and poverty is worse, isn&#8217;t that<br />
>> a catch-22  when you admit that things were better then and worse now?<br />
><br />
> Poverty was getting better before we hit neocon-land.<br />
>><br />
>> It would seem to indicate that spending less was better.<br />
><br />
> We spend less and there&#8217;s more poverty.<br />
>><br />
>> Spending less must be better than spending more(you just said so)&#8230;.<br />
>><br />
>> Oh wait the Treasury still took in about 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> so raising taxes had<br />
>> almost zero effect on <strong>Federal</strong> funds to taken in to spend back in 1944<br />
>><br />
>> so you need to tax more and/or spend less, start by spending less and<br />
>> see if that is sufficient and if NOT then we would be forced to look at<br />
>> something else.<br />
>><br />
>> &#8211;<br />
><br />
> Forget that you just pulled the number out of your <acronym title="ass"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%s</span></acronym>. Percent of <strong>GDP</strong><br />
> has nothing to do with this issue. When poverty is high, revenues as<br />
> percent of <strong>GDP</strong> will always be higher, because there are fewer<br />
> taxpayers, and thus less revenue.</p>
<p>That didn&#8217;t make sense, but I think I see what you were trying to say.</p>
<p>did you mean when poverty is high, revenues will be low, due to<br />
<strong>unemployment</strong>?</p>
<p>Even that idea has no merit.  Since corporations can be profitable when<br />
they fire thousands of people.   We just went through that, when<br />
everyone trimmed the payroll in order to prepare for the Obama created<br />
Depression.</p>
<p>THAT SAID&#8230;.</p>
<p>The <strong>GDP</strong> will be an issue because it has a ceiling and that is 18%, raise<br />
and lower <strong>Federal</strong> taxes all you want but you will end up with an average<br />
within a few points of that 18% average.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just how history has come to pass.  Given that truth, when<br />
government spends more than 18% it is going to be long term deficit<br />
spending.</p>
<p>Raise taxes higher to get more than an average 18%&#8230;  and you will be<br />
suppressing economic activity and gaining no real revenue.  The so<br />
called boom from high 94% taxes was an average 2% and that slowed the<br />
economy to the point that they were soon lowering those taxes to<br />
encourage economic growth and the fall in <strong>Federal</strong> taxes continued in<br />
incremental steps up and down until it was at 38%</p>
<p>Look at the 1920 Depression, taxes rise to 70% then crash of the<br />
economy, then the fall of the taxes.   They taxed higher until it<br />
crashed. Then they lowered taxes until it started to grow.</p>
<p>Here at the graph below is deficit spending in <strong>RED</strong> and the actual Total<br />
<strong>Federal</strong> Revenue is in BLUE.</p>
<p><strong>NOTICE</strong> THAT THE 94% tax rate in 1944 didn&#8217;t raise enough revenue to<br />
cover the deficit spending and it crushes the economy/<strong>GDP</strong>.  1943 the<br />
previous year to 1944 the growth of the <strong>GDP</strong> was 30-40 billion dollars<br />
per year and after the 94% tax rate the <strong>GDP</strong> growth was a muted 8-<strong>10</strong><br />
billion dollars.  The <strong>GDP</strong> went from a 16% growth in 1943 to 6% in 1944.</p>
<p>It was a 6% growth rate after the tax rate was known to increase to a<br />
top rate of 94%&#8230;..  That indicates a <strong>10</strong>% loss in growth of the <strong>GDP</strong><br />
from before 1943 to after 1944 and that correlates to the rise in the<br />
federal income tax top rates.</p>
<p><a href="http://prntscr.com/46m9e" >http://prntscr.com/46m9e</a></p>
<p>As I have been saying, the high taxes will slow growth(with no<br />
sustainable revenue benefit) and even today we see the threat of new<br />
high taxes has muted the growth.  We will NOT grow until Obama the<br />
Socialist &#8220;redistribution&#8221; King (Obama) is removed from his throne.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/21/2011 7:48 PM, Sid9 wrote: > > &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221; wrote in > message news:4ECAD644.5000103 @&#038;*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230; >> On 11/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote: >>> On Nov 21, 10:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty >>> wrote: >>>> On 11/21/2011 9:48 AM, d&#8230;@dudu.org wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;C&#8230;@PrayForMe.com&#8221; >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> WHAT PAERT OF [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 7:48 PM, Sid9 wrote:<br />
><br />
> &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221;
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in<br />
> message news:4ECAD644.5000103<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230;<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote:<br />
>>> On Nov 21, <strong>10</strong>:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>>>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:48 AM, <a href="mailto:d...@dudu.org">d&#8230;@dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;C&#8230;@PrayForMe.com&#8221;<br />
>>>>> <c ...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> WHAT <strong>PAERT</strong> OF NO <strong>NEW</strong> TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU <strong>UNDERSTAND</strong>?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>>> <strong>GUBMENT</strong> MUST <strong>LEARN</strong> TO DO <strong>WTHOUT</strong>!<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> It&#8217;s not the &#8220;gubment&#8221; that going to have to do without, dumbass.  So<br />
>>>>> who&#8217;s benefits get cut?  Oh I know, everybody&#8217;s but yours.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> If High taxes would solve all our problems then poverty would have been<br />
>>>> wiped out in 1944 &#8211; 1986 when income taxes were as high as 94%.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Income Tax Act of 1944<br />
>>>> 1944    24      <strong>23</strong>%     94%     $200,000        $2.54M  Individual<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> to 1981 where it was 70% and dropped in 1986 to 38%.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> The <strong>HIGH</strong> <strong>TAX</strong> wasn&#8217;t a cure for poverty.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Can you tell us why it failed?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>><br />
>>> Poverty was much lower when tax rates were 70% and above than it is<br />
>>> now.<br />
>><br />
>> So you&#8217;re saying that we spend more now and poverty is worse, isn&#8217;t that<br />
>> a catch-22  when you admit that things were better then and worse now?<br />
>><br />
>> It would seem to indicate that spending less was better.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Spending less must be better than spending more(you just said so)&#8230;.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Oh wait the Treasury still took in about 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> so raising taxes had<br />
>> almost zero effect on <strong>Federal</strong> funds to taken in to spend back in 1944.<br />
>><br />
>> so you need to tax more and/or spend less, start by spending less and<br />
>> see if that is sufficient and if NOT then we would be forced to look at<br />
>> something else.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> &#8211;<br />
>><br />
><br />
> So you&#8217;re saying?<br />
> His words are clear and do not need interpretation from you</p>
<p>I&#8217;m saying he&#8217;s NOT very consistent.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not sure which story he wants to stick with&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m awaiting any clarification that he cares to make.</p>
<p>Or NONE at all and he decides to go with me picking between his<br />
conflicting statements.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote: > On Nov 21, 10:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: >> On 11/21/2011 9:48 AM, d&#8230;@dudu.org wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;C&#8230;@PrayForMe.com&#8221; >>> wrote: >> >>>> WHAT PAERT OF NO NEW TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU UNDERSTAND? >> >>>> GUBMENT MUST LEARN TO DO WTHOUT! >> >>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 5:00 PM, Milt wrote:<br />
> On Nov 21, <strong>10</strong>:54 am, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeveryth ...@blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:48 AM, <a href="mailto:d...@dudu.org">d&#8230;@dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;C&#8230;@PrayForMe.com&#8221;<br />
>>> <c ...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>> WHAT <strong>PAERT</strong> OF NO <strong>NEW</strong> TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU <strong>UNDERSTAND</strong>?<br />
>><br />
>>>> <strong>GUBMENT</strong> MUST <strong>LEARN</strong> TO DO <strong>WTHOUT</strong>!<br />
>><br />
>>> It&#8217;s not the &#8220;gubment&#8221; that going to have to do without, dumbass.  So<br />
>>> who&#8217;s benefits get cut?  Oh I know, everybody&#8217;s but yours.<br />
>><br />
>> If High taxes would solve all our problems then poverty would have been<br />
>> wiped out in 1944 &#8211; 1986 when income taxes were as high as 94%.<br />
>><br />
>> Income Tax Act of 1944<br />
>> 1944    24      <strong>23</strong>%     94%     $200,000        $2.54M  Individual<br />
>><br />
>> to 1981 where it was 70% and dropped in 1986 to 38%.<br />
>><br />
>> The <strong>HIGH</strong> <strong>TAX</strong> wasn&#8217;t a cure for poverty.<br />
>><br />
>> Can you tell us why it failed?<br />
>><br />
>> &#8211;<br />
><br />
> Poverty was much lower when tax rates were 70% and above than it is<br />
> now.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying that we spend more now and poverty is worse, isn&#8217;t that<br />
a catch-22  when you admit that things were better then and worse now?</p>
<p>It would seem to indicate that spending less was better.</p>
<p>Spending less must be better than spending more(you just said so)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Oh wait the Treasury still took in about 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> so raising taxes had<br />
almost zero effect on <strong>Federal</strong> funds to taken in to spend back in 1944.</p>
<p>so you need to tax more and/or spend less, start by spending less and<br />
see if that is sufficient and if NOT then we would be forced to look at<br />
something else.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/21/2011 11:40 AM, deep @&#038;*$?%dudu.org wrote: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 10:54:35 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 9:48 AM, deep @&#038;*$?%dudu.org wrote: >>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;CB@PrayForMe.com&#8221; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WHAT PAERT OF NO NEW TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU UNDERSTAND? >>>> >>>> >>>> GUBMENT [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 <strong>11</strong>:40 AM, <a href="mailto:deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org">deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 <strong>10</strong>:54:35 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:48 AM, <a href="mailto:deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org">deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
>>> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;<strong>CB</strong>@PrayForMe.com&#8221;<br />
>>> <cb @PrayForMe.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> WHAT <strong>PAERT</strong> OF NO <strong>NEW</strong> TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU <strong>UNDERSTAND</strong>?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> <strong>GUBMENT</strong> MUST <strong>LEARN</strong> TO DO <strong>WTHOUT</strong>!<br />
>>><br />
>>> It&#8217;s not the &#8220;gubment&#8221; that going to have to do without, dumbass.  So<br />
>>> who&#8217;s benefits get cut?  Oh I know, everybody&#8217;s but yours.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> If High taxes would solve all our problems then poverty would have been<br />
>> wiped out in 1944 &#8211; 1986 when income taxes were as high as 94%.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Income Tax Act of 1944<br />
>> 1944 	24 	<strong>23</strong>% 	94% 	$200,000 	$2.54M 	Individual<br />
>><br />
>> to 1981 where it was 70% and dropped in 1986 to 38%.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> The <strong>HIGH</strong> <strong>TAX</strong> wasn&#8217;t a cure for poverty.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Can you tell us why it failed?<br />
><br />
> <a href="http://people.stern.nyu.edu/nroubini/SUPPLY.HTM" >http://people.stern.nyu.edu/nroubini/SUPPLY.HTM</a></p>
<p>The <strong>heart</strong> of this garbage you linked is ignoring that&#8230; it isn&#8217;t<br />
claimed that the ratio of <strong>GDP</strong> to Treasury coffers income was going to<br />
<strong>change</strong>.</p>
<p>It is a given that 18% of the <strong>GDP</strong> is the average that the treasury will<br />
CONSUME.  But 18% of a 16trillion dollar <strong>GDP</strong> is MORE than 18% of a<br />
13trillion dollar <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
<p>You really aren&#8217;t &#8220;getting it&#8221; are you?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/21/2011 11:49 AM, deep @&#038;*$?%dudu.org wrote: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:00:03 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 9:48 AM, deep @&#038;*$?%dudu.org wrote: >>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;CB@PrayForMe.com&#8221; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WHAT PAERT OF NO NEW TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU UNDERSTAND? >>>> >>>> >>>> GUBMENT [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 <strong>11</strong>:49 AM, <a href="mailto:deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org">deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 <strong>11</strong>:00:03 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:48 AM, <a href="mailto:deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org">deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
>>> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;<strong>CB</strong>@PrayForMe.com&#8221;<br />
>>> <cb @PrayForMe.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> WHAT <strong>PAERT</strong> OF NO <strong>NEW</strong> TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU <strong>UNDERSTAND</strong>?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> <strong>GUBMENT</strong> MUST <strong>LEARN</strong> TO DO <strong>WTHOUT</strong>!<br />
>>><br />
>>> It&#8217;s not the &#8220;gubment&#8221; that going to have to do without, dumbass.  So<br />
>>> who&#8217;s benefits get cut?  Oh I know, everybody&#8217;s but yours.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> If High taxes would solve all our problems then poverty would have been<br />
>> wiped out in 1944 &#8211; 1986 when income taxes were as high as 94%.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Income Tax Act of 1944<br />
>> 1944 	24 	<strong>23</strong>% 	94% 	$200,000 	$2.54M 	Individual<br />
>><br />
>> to 1981 where it was 70% and dropped in 1986 to 38%.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> The <strong>HIGH</strong> <strong>TAX</strong> wasn&#8217;t a cure for poverty.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Can you tell us why it failed?<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/MarginalIncomeTax.svg" >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/MarginalIncomeTax.svg</a><br />
>><br />
>> I don&#8217;t see any correlation between high taxes and a lack of poverty, do<br />
>> you?<br />
><br />
> If cutting taxes improved the economy we would be in a boom cycle<br />
> right now, dumbass, not a bust.  You people replace knowledge with<br />
> stupidity and expect everybody to accept your stupidity as fact. Won&#8217;t<br />
> work moron.</p>
<p>So we are in a bust due to spending NOT due to low taxes.    Taxes will<br />
NOT increase the income to fill the treasury&#8230;.   but spending more<br />
than 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> will empty the Treasury.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&#038;id=1324" >http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&#038;id=1324</a><br />
*Bottom of the page in charts*</p>
<p>The income to the treasury when the taxes were 94% was no boon to the<br />
<strong>TREASURY</strong> and it does crush the economy.  The way to get more taxes into<br />
the Treasury is to keep income taxes low enough to encourage economic<br />
growth, without growth you hit the glass ceiling of 18% Treasury<br />
receipts and stop.  Stopping growth then stops more income into the<br />
treasury.  So raising taxes will leave the treasury and economy smaller<br />
than the original lower taxes.</p>
<p>Raising Taxes is not a linear function.</p>
<p>But Democrat-<strong>Socialists</strong> are too stupid to understand it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/GIF/hist_receipt_source_GDP.gif" >http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/Content/GIF/hist_receipt_source_GDP.gif</a></p>
<p>No matter what the taxes are raised to, you will only get an average of<br />
18% of the <strong>GDP</strong>, at that point when you raise taxes more, you will<br />
decrease the size/growth of the economy.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/21/2011 11:49 AM, deep @&#038;*$?%dudu.org wrote: > On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:00:03 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty > wrote: > >> On 11/21/2011 9:48 AM, deep @&#038;*$?%dudu.org wrote: >>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;CB@PrayForMe.com&#8221; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> WHAT PAERT OF NO NEW TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU UNDERSTAND? >>>> >>>> >>>> GUBMENT [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 <strong>11</strong>:49 AM, <a href="mailto:deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org">deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 <strong>11</strong>:00:03 -0500, BeamMeUpScotty<br />
>
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/21/2011 9:48 AM, <a href="mailto:deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org">deep<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>dudu.org</a> wrote:<br />
>>> <strong>On Mon</strong>, 21 Nov 2011 09:18:26 -0500, &#8220;<strong>CB</strong>@PrayForMe.com&#8221;<br />
>>> <cb @PrayForMe.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> WHAT <strong>PAERT</strong> OF NO <strong>NEW</strong> TAXES CAN&#8217;T YOU <strong>UNDERSTAND</strong>?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> <strong>GUBMENT</strong> MUST <strong>LEARN</strong> TO DO <strong>WTHOUT</strong>!<br />
>>><br />
>>> It&#8217;s not the &#8220;gubment&#8221; that going to have to do without, dumbass.  So<br />
>>> who&#8217;s benefits get cut?  Oh I know, everybody&#8217;s but yours.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> If High taxes would solve all our problems then poverty would have been<br />
>> wiped out in 1944 &#8211; 1986 when income taxes were as high as 94%.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Income Tax Act of 1944<br />
>> 1944 	24 	<strong>23</strong>% 	94% 	$200,000 	$2.54M 	Individual<br />
>><br />
>> to 1981 where it was 70% and dropped in 1986 to 38%.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> The <strong>HIGH</strong> <strong>TAX</strong> wasn&#8217;t a cure for poverty.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Can you tell us why it failed?<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/MarginalIncomeTax.svg" >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/MarginalIncomeTax.svg</a><br />
>><br />
>> I don&#8217;t see any correlation between high taxes and a lack of poverty, do<br />
>> you?<br />
><br />
> If cutting taxes improved the economy we would be in a boom cycle<br />
> right now, dumbass, not a bust.  You people replace knowledge with<br />
> stupidity and expect everybody to accept your stupidity as fact. Won&#8217;t<br />
> work moron.</p>
<p>So we are in a bust due to spending NOT due to low taxes.    Taxes will<br />
NOT increase the income to fill the treasury&#8230;.   but spending more<br />
than 18% of <strong>GDP</strong> will empty the Treasury.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&#038;id=1324" >http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&#038;id=1324</a><br />
*Bottom of the page in charts*</p>
<p>The income to the treasury when the taxes were 94% was no boon to the<br />
<strong>TREASURY</strong> and it does crush the economy.  The way to get more taxes into<br />
the Treasury is to keep income taxes low enough to encourage economic<br />
growth, without growth you hit the glass ceiling of 18% Treasury<br />
receipts and stop.  Stopping growth then stops more income into the<br />
treasury.  So raising taxes will leave the treasury and economy smaller<br />
than the original lower taxes.</p>
<p>Raising Taxes is not a linear function.</p>
<p>But Democrat-<strong>Socialists</strong> are too stupid to understand it.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/19/2011 11:07 AM, Ray Fischer wrote: > BeamMeUpScotty wrote: >> On 11/13/2011 11:09 PM, Ray Fischer wrote: >>> jane.playne wrote: >>>> Here are the numbers of what FDR spent on the &#8220;Great Depression&#8221; and >>>> what Obama wasted on the current recession as a percentage of GDP: >>>> >>>> 1934 9.00 >>>> 1935 10.30 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/19/2011 <strong>11</strong>:07 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:<br />
> BeamMeUpScotty
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote:<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/13/2011 <strong>11</strong>:09 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:<br />
>>> jane.playne <jane .playne<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> Here are the numbers of what <strong>FDR</strong> spent on the &#8220;<strong>Great Depression</strong>&#8221; and<br />
>>>> what Obama wasted on the current recession as a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong>:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> 1934		9.00<br />
>>>> 1935		<strong>10</strong>.30<br />
>>>> 1936		<strong>10</strong>.94<br />
>>>> 1937		9.58<br />
>>>> 1938		9.81<br />
>>>> 1939		<strong>10</strong>.04<br />
>>>> 1940		9.92<br />
>>>> 1941		<strong>11</strong>.18<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> 2009		25.<strong>10</strong><br />
>>>> 2010		<strong>23</strong>.75<br />
>>>> 2011		<strong>23</strong>.88<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Obama&#8217;s spending and deficit as a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong> are the highest<br />
>>>> since the <strong>WWII</strong> era.<br />
>>><br />
>>> There&#8217;s the rightard liar at work.  Notice that number for 2009?<br />
>>> That&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s last budget that went from <strong>10</strong>/1/2008 to 9/30/2009.<br />
>><br />
>> So you are saying that 9/<strong>11</strong>/2001 was something that <strong>Clinton</strong> was<br />
>> responsible for since it was his previous security plan and budgeted<br />
>> security that was in action?<br />
><br />
> You&#8217;re blaming <strong>Clinton</strong> because Bush ignored warnings about al Qaeda?</p>
<p>NO&#8230;  I&#8217;m using this <strong>Liberal Logic</strong> I see being used&#8230; that because<br />
someone else like Bush was in office the year before, that all that is<br />
wrong can be blamed on them during the first year of the new Administration.</p>
<p>If it works for blaming Bush then it is also good for <strong>Clinton</strong> who<br />
budgeted for the security and set up everything leading to 9/<strong>11</strong>.</p>
<p>If you believe in reality then Obama created <strong>His Spending</strong> deficits from<br />
January 20 by NOT cutting government and BUSH is stuck with 9/<strong>11</strong> for NOT<br />
preparing and watching <strong>Al Qaeda</strong>, who obviously had a hard on for<br />
America.  And <strong>Clinton</strong> gets his tech Bubble crash that started crashing<br />
in 1999.</p>
<p>Shifting blame is a double edged sword.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/13/2011 11:09 PM, Ray Fischer wrote: > jane.playne wrote: >> Here are the numbers of what FDR spent on the &#8220;Great Depression&#8221; and >> what Obama wasted on the current recession as a percentage of GDP: >> >> 1934 9.00 >> 1935 10.30 >> 1936 10.94 >> 1937 9.58 >> 1938 9.81 >> 1939 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/13/2011 <strong>11</strong>:09 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:<br />
> jane.playne <jane .playne<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>> Here are the numbers of what <strong>FDR</strong> spent on the &#8220;<strong>Great Depression</strong>&#8221; and<br />
>> what Obama wasted on the current recession as a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong>:<br />
>><br />
>> 1934		9.00<br />
>> 1935		<strong>10</strong>.30<br />
>> 1936		<strong>10</strong>.94<br />
>> 1937		9.58<br />
>> 1938		9.81<br />
>> 1939		<strong>10</strong>.04<br />
>> 1940		9.92<br />
>> 1941		<strong>11</strong>.18<br />
>><br />
>> 2009		25.<strong>10</strong><br />
>> 2010		<strong>23</strong>.75<br />
>> 2011		<strong>23</strong>.88<br />
>><br />
>> Obama&#8217;s spending and deficit as a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong> are the highest<br />
>> since the <strong>WWII</strong> era.<br />
><br />
> There&#8217;s the rightard liar at work.  Notice that number for 2009?<br />
> That&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s last budget that went from <strong>10</strong>/1/2008 to 9/30/2009.</p>
<p>So you are saying that 9/<strong>11</strong>/2001 was something that <strong>Clinton</strong> was<br />
responsible for since it was his previous security plan and budgeted<br />
security that was in action?</p>
<p>> Notice the numbers that follow?  Where spending goes down?  That&#8217;s<br />
> Obama.</p>
<p>I notice that you claim one thing when it works in your favor and<br />
another thing when it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/12/2011 2:32 PM, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: > BeamMeUpScotty wrote: > >> On 11/12/2011 1:56 PM, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >>> jane.playne wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/11/2011 07:28, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >>>>> jane.playne wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/11/2011 03:35, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >>>>>>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/11/2011 3:22 PM, Sexual [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/12/2011 2:32 PM, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/12/2011 1:56 PM, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>> jane.playne wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 07:28, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>>>> jane.playne wrote:<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 03:35, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 3:22 PM, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>> Ron Peterson wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov <strong>11</strong>, 7:58 am, Wayne<mygarbage ...@verizon.net>   wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> So.. I suppose that the &#8220;more tax revenue&#8221; will come from the 1%.<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> Where would the 1% go to replace that lost money?  Perhaps to the<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> pockets of the 99%?<br />
>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> Currently, the government gets it revenue short fall from the sale of<br />
>>>>>>>>>> bonds. So an increase in <strong>taxes</strong> for the upper 1% would reduce the<br />
>>>>>>>>>> purchase of government bonds by that upper 1%.<br />
>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> The net effect of a tax increase on that 1% would be a reduction in<br />
>>>>>>>>>> the amount of debt that needs to be repaid.<br />
>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> Reduction of wasteful spending and putting people  to work are the<br />
>>>>>>>>>> best ways improve the quality of life for everybody.<br />
>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>>>>>>>>>      Ron<br />
>>>>>>>>> How will reduced spending put people to work?<br />
>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> *IT WOULD <strong>LEAVE</strong> MORE <strong>MONEY</strong> IN THE <strong>PRIVATE</strong> <strong>SECTOR</strong>*<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> The Private sector invests their money to try to create more wealth.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>> But the private sector, excepting the unemployed, already has more<br />
>>>>>>> wealth. There are trillions and trillions of dollars sitting in banks<br />
>>>>>>> waiting to be invested. The reason that money isn&#8217;t being invested is<br />
>>>>>>> because demand (spending) is so low. If the government spends less, then<br />
>>>>>>> the economy will shrink, as it has in the <strong>UK</strong>, Ireland, <strong>Greece</strong>, and soon<br />
>>>>>>> <strong>Italy</strong>.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>> Our government needs to spend MORE, not less. It needs to raise <strong>taxes</strong> on<br />
>>>>>>> the<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> As a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong>, Obama is spending over twice what <strong>FDR</strong> spent.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>> Nope.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>> <strong>FDR</strong> spent money in exchange for labor; Obama didn&#8217;t spend money, he just<br />
>>>>>> gave money away.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Obama&#8217;s economic stimulus relied too heavily on tax cuts (1/3 of total) and<br />
>>>>> didn&#8217;t go for direct federal project. Yes I agree with that. It was also<br />
>>>>> too small in light of the huge loss of wealth during the downturn.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> When <strong>FDR</strong> was finished, <strong>FDR</strong> had the Golden Gate Bridge and the Hover Dam<br />
>>>>>> to show for his money. What does Obama have to show for his?<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> I&#8217;m happy to say that we in California are getting our high-speed rail<br />
>>>>> system!<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> The <strong>FDR</strong> Feds did not finance that bridge. It was done with California<br />
>>>>> deficit spending. Do you have information that contradicts? Let me hear<br />
>>>>> about it! We didnt have stupid balanced budget amendments putting a<br />
>>>>> chokehold on our state in a recession back then.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>> wealthy portion to keep the deficit within reason.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> Impossible.  How much would you reduce the deficit?<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Doesn;t matter. They hold way too much wealth and have shown that they hold<br />
>>>>> too great an influence on our government and on the minds of those of your<br />
>>>>> ilk.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>> What tax rate would<br />
>>>>>> you need? At what income level would you have to start your taxation?<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Back to what they were under Clinton. I might be up for raising the capital<br />
>>>>> gains rate above 20% too.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> I really doubt that you have actual numbers for those questions.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Here are the numbers of what <strong>FDR</strong> spent on the &#8220;Great Depression&#8221; and<br />
>>>> what Obama wasted on the current recession as a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong>:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> 1934          9.00<br />
>>>> 1935          <strong>10</strong>.30<br />
>>>> 1936          <strong>10</strong>.94<br />
>>>> 1937          9.58<br />
>>>> 1938          9.81<br />
>>>> 1939          <strong>10</strong>.04<br />
>>>> 1940          9.92<br />
>>>> 1941          <strong>11</strong>.18<br />
>>><br />
>>> Conveniently cut off at 1941, <acronym title="asshole"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%e</span></acronym>. The US us at war too, dimbulb. You&#8217;re<br />
>>> so full of <acronym title="shit"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> s&*$?%t</span></acronym> it&#8217;s a wonder you can sit still long enough to post on<br />
>>> usenet.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> <strong>SO</strong> you want to get into a WORLD <strong>WAR</strong> to end your depression.<br />
><br />
> We&#8217;re already at war and have been since <strong>AWOL</strong> Bush let those <strong>Al Quaida</strong> people<br />
> blow up the twin towers.<br />
></p>
<p>Obama just gave that enemy aid and comfort and Obama had NATO give the<br />
enemy Libya/<strong>Greece</strong>/Iraq/<strong>Italy</strong>.</p>
<p>We have no allies and this blood war is costing us(not paying us), as it<br />
was intended by the terrorists and their allies the Socialists.  We&#8217;re<br />
bleeding internally as well as bleeding on the battlefield.</p>
<p>We are a dieing Nation, which has been the goal of the Left and the<br />
Socialists who have been the enemy within.  They don&#8217;t like that we&#8217;re a<br />
capitalist Nation so they try every manner of destruction.  Use the<br />
courts to create chaos and unequal justice.  Use the tax code to create<br />
economic chaos.  Use the army of slimy Leftist lawyers&#8230;.</p>
<p>It seems they are now trying to use our own government to destroy this<br />
capitalist Nation, it is a <strong>CIVIL</strong> <strong>WAR</strong> with no clear Mason Dixon lines.</p>
<p>There is a <strong>CANCER</strong> that has metastasized throughout the <strong>Capitalist</strong> United<br />
States, and that Socialist Cancer is slowly consuming the Nation that<br />
was, and is killing the host.</p>
<p>*What will live, won&#8217;t be <strong>Capitalist</strong> America*</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/12/2011 1:56 PM, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: > jane.playne wrote: > >> On 11/11/2011 07:28, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >>> jane.playne wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/11/2011 03:35, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >>>>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/11/2011 3:22 PM, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >>>>>>> Ron Peterson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 7:58 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/12/2011 1:56 PM, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
> jane.playne wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 07:28, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>> jane.playne wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 03:35, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>>>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 3:22 PM, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> Ron Peterson wrote:<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> On Nov <strong>11</strong>, 7:58 am, Wayne<mygarbage ...@verizon.net>   wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> So.. I suppose that the &#8220;more tax revenue&#8221; will come from the 1%.<br />
>>>>>>>>> Where would the 1% go to replace that lost money?  Perhaps to the<br />
>>>>>>>>> pockets of the 99%?<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> Currently, the government gets it revenue short fall from the sale of<br />
>>>>>>>> bonds. So an increase in <strong>taxes</strong> for the upper 1% would reduce the<br />
>>>>>>>> purchase of government bonds by that upper 1%.<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> The net effect of a tax increase on that 1% would be a reduction in<br />
>>>>>>>> the amount of debt that needs to be repaid.<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> Reduction of wasteful spending and putting people  to work are the<br />
>>>>>>>> best ways improve the quality of life for everybody.<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>>>>>>>      Ron<br />
>>>>>>> How will reduced spending put people to work?<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> *IT WOULD <strong>LEAVE</strong> MORE <strong>MONEY</strong> IN THE <strong>PRIVATE</strong> <strong>SECTOR</strong>*<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> The Private sector invests their money to try to create more wealth.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> But the private sector, excepting the <strong>unemployed</strong>, already has more wealth.<br />
>>>>> There are trillions and trillions of dollars sitting in banks waiting to be<br />
>>>>> invested. The reason that money isn&#8217;t being invested is because <strong>demand</strong><br />
>>>>> (spending) is so low. If the government spends less, then the economy will<br />
>>>>> shrink, as it has in the <strong>UK</strong>, Ireland, <strong>Greece</strong>, and soon <strong>Italy</strong>.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Our government needs to spend MORE, not less. It needs to raise <strong>taxes</strong> on<br />
>>>>> the<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> As a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong>, Obama is spending over twice what <strong>FDR</strong> spent.<br />
>>>><br />
>>> Nope.<br />
>>><br />
>>>> <strong>FDR</strong> spent money in exchange for labor; Obama didn&#8217;t spend money, he just<br />
>>>> gave money away.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Obama&#8217;s economic stimulus relied too heavily on tax cuts (1/3 of total) and<br />
>>> didn&#8217;t go for direct federal project. Yes I agree with that. It was also too<br />
>>> small in light of the huge loss of wealth during the downturn.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> When <strong>FDR</strong> was finished, <strong>FDR</strong> had the Golden Gate Bridge and the Hover Dam<br />
>>>> to show for his money. What does Obama have to show for his?<br />
>>><br />
>>> I&#8217;m happy to say that we in California are getting our high-speed rail<br />
>>> system!<br />
>>><br />
>>> The <strong>FDR</strong> Feds did not finance that bridge. It was done with California deficit<br />
>>> spending. Do you have information that contradicts? Let me hear about it! We<br />
>>> didnt have stupid balanced budget amendments putting a chokehold on our state<br />
>>> in a recession back then.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> wealthy portion to keep the deficit within reason.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Impossible.  How much would you reduce the deficit?<br />
>>><br />
>>> Doesn;t matter. They hold way too much wealth and have shown that they hold<br />
>>> too great an influence on our government and on the minds of those of your<br />
>>> ilk.<br />
>>><br />
>>>> What tax rate would<br />
>>>> you need? At what income level would you have to start your taxation?<br />
>>><br />
>>> Back to what they were under Clinton. I might be up for raising the capital<br />
>>> gains rate above 20% too.<br />
>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> I really doubt that you have actual numbers for those questions.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Here are the numbers of what <strong>FDR</strong> spent on the &#8220;Great Depression&#8221; and<br />
>> what Obama wasted on the current recession as a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong>:<br />
>><br />
>> 1934          9.00<br />
>> 1935          <strong>10</strong>.30<br />
>> 1936          <strong>10</strong>.94<br />
>> 1937          9.58<br />
>> 1938          9.81<br />
>> 1939          <strong>10</strong>.04<br />
>> 1940          9.92<br />
>> 1941          <strong>11</strong>.18<br />
><br />
> Conveniently cut off at 1941, <acronym title="asshole"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%e</span></acronym>. The US us at war too, dimbulb. You&#8217;re so<br />
> full of <acronym title="shit"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> s&*$?%t</span></acronym> it&#8217;s a wonder you can sit still long enough to post on usenet.</p>
<p><strong>SO</strong> you want to get into a WORLD <strong>WAR</strong> to end your depression.    The<br />
numbers don&#8217;t add up.</p>
<p>That will only work if you&#8217;re a capitalist and selling all the war<br />
materials to your allies.</p>
<p>Russia and England started buying <strong>WAR</strong> <strong>MATERIALS</strong> in 1938 and they paid<br />
with <strong>GOLD</strong>&#8230;..   That put people to work and created wealth.</p>
<p>>> 2009          25.<strong>10</strong><br />
>> 2010          <strong>23</strong>.75<br />
>> 2011          <strong>23</strong>.88</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/11/2011 5:42 PM, jane.playne wrote: > On 11/11/2011 03:35, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >> BeamMeUpScotty wrote: >> >>> On 11/11/2011 3:22 PM, Sexual Harassment Panda wrote: >>>> Ron Peterson wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Nov 11, 7:58 am, Wayne wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So.. I suppose that the &#8220;more tax revenue&#8221; will come from the 1%. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 5:42 PM, jane.playne wrote:<br />
> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 03:35, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>> BeamMeUpScotty wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> On <strong>11</strong>/<strong>11</strong>/2011 3:22 PM, <strong>Sexual Harassment Panda</strong> wrote:<br />
>>>> <strong>Ron Peterson</strong> wrote:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> On Nov <strong>11</strong>, 7:58 am, Wayne<mygarbage ...@verizon.net>  wrote:<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>> So.. I suppose that the &#8220;more tax revenue&#8221; will come from the 1%.<br />
>>>>>> Where would the 1% go to replace that lost money?  Perhaps to the<br />
>>>>>> pockets of the 99%?<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Currently, the government gets it revenue short fall from the sale of<br />
>>>>> bonds. So an increase in <strong>taxes</strong> for the upper 1% would reduce the<br />
>>>>> purchase of government bonds by that upper 1%.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> The net effect of a tax increase on that 1% would be a reduction in<br />
>>>>> the amount of debt that needs to be repaid.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Reduction of wasteful spending and putting people  to work are the<br />
>>>>> best ways improve the quality of life for everybody.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>>>>     Ron<br />
>>>> How will reduced spending put people to work?<br />
>>>><br />
>>><br />
>>> *IT WOULD <strong>LEAVE</strong> MORE <strong>MONEY</strong> IN THE PRIVATE <strong>SECTOR</strong>*<br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>> The Private sector invests their money to try to create more <strong>wealth</strong>.<br />
>><br />
>> But the private sector, excepting the <strong>unemployed</strong>, already has more<br />
>> <strong>wealth</strong>. There<br />
>> are trillions and trillions of dollars sitting in banks waiting to be<br />
>> invested.<br />
>> The reason that money isn&#8217;t being invested is because <strong>demand</strong><br />
>> (spending) is so<br />
>> low. If the government spends less, then the economy will shrink, as<br />
>> it has in<br />
>> the <strong>UK</strong>, Ireland, <strong>Greece</strong>, and soon Italy.<br />
>><br />
>> Our government needs to spend MORE, not less. It needs to raise <strong>taxes</strong><br />
>> on the<br />
><br />
> As a percentage of <strong>GDP</strong>, Obama is spending over twice what <strong>FDR</strong> spent.<br />
><br />
> <strong>FDR</strong> spent money in exchange for labor; Obama didn&#8217;t spend money, he just<br />
> gave money away.<br />
><br />
> When <strong>FDR</strong> was finished, <strong>FDR</strong> had the Golden Gate Bridge and the Hover Dam<br />
> to show for his money. What does Obama have to show for his?</p>
<p>*Solyndra*</p>
<p>*<strong>Fannie</strong> Mae*</p>
<p><strong>UNION</strong> <strong>OWNED</strong> <strong>GM</strong></p>
<p><strong>BIGGER</strong> MORE <strong>COSTLY</strong> GOVERNMENT</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:35:54 +0000, John Rennie wrote: >On 07/11/2011 20:05, PJZ??????????? wrote: >> On Nov 7, 2:32 pm, PJZ??????????? wrote: >>> The Real China: Urban Wealth, Rural Poverty >>> Contrary Indicator &#8211; 6 hours ago >>> >>> &#8220;&#8230;Here&#8217;s some breaking news for the China bulls: Despite the >>> gleaming towers of Shanghai, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>On Mon</strong>, 07 Nov 2011 20:35:54 +0000, John Rennie<br />
<john -rennie<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>talktalk.net> wrote:</p>
<p>>On 07/<strong>11</strong>/2011 20:05, <strong>PJZ</strong>??????????? wrote:<br />
>> On Nov 7, 2:32 pm, <strong>PJZ</strong>???????????<z197 ...@usa.com>  wrote:<br />
>>> The Real <strong>China</strong>: Urban Wealth, Rural Poverty<br />
>>> Contrary Indicator &#8211; 6 hours ago<br />
>>><br />
>>> &#8220;&#8230;Here&#8217;s some breaking news for the <strong>China</strong> bulls: Despite the<br />
>>> gleaming towers of Shanghai, the monumental glass-and-steel sprawl of<br />
>>> <strong>Beijing</strong>, the massive airports and high-speed rail networks, this is a<br />
>>> very poor country. The urban <strong>China</strong> of bourgeois living, brand names<br />
>>> and chic restaurants is real and growing.<br />
>>><br />
>>> But the denizens of modern <strong>China</strong> are only 20 years removed from the<br />
>>> poverty of <strong>Ta Ping</strong>. And a huge chunk of the country remains trapped in<br />
>>> it&#8230;.<br />
>>><br />
>>> &#8230;Half of the population lives in rural areas, but this half only<br />
>>> accounts for about <strong>10</strong>% of <strong>GDP</strong>&#8230;&#8221;<br />
>>><br />
>>> google to read the whole thing.<br />
>><br />
><br />
><br />
>And no country is more capitalist than <strong>China</strong>.  Bring back<br />
><strong>Mao</strong>.</p>
<p>Give us <strong>Mao</strong> or give him death?</p>
<p><strong>RIP</strong>  <strong>Mao</strong>  we miss you?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/6/2011 12:19 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote: > > &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221; wrote in > message news:4EB49087.6020507 @&#038;*$?%blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230; >> On 11/4/2011 9:09 PM, Gary Forbis wrote: >>> On Nov 4, 2:08 am, &#8220; R&#038;*$?%d&#8221; wrote: >>>> Gary Forbis wrote >>>>> then why would you argue differently about the >>>>> bottom half of US tax payers paying no income [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/6/2011 12:19 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:<br />
><br />
> &#8220;BeamMeUpScotty&#8221;
<thendestroyeverything @blackhole.nebulax.com> wrote in<br />
> message news:4EB49087.6020507<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>blackhole.nebulax.com&#8230;<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/4/2011 9:09 PM, Gary Forbis wrote:<br />
>>> On Nov 4, 2:08 am, &#8220;<acronym title="Rod Speed"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> R&*$?%d</span></acronym>&#8221; <rod .speed....@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> Gary Forbis wrote<br />
>>>>> then why would you argue differently about the<br />
>>>>> bottom half of <strong>US</strong> tax payers paying no income tax?<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Because they pay no net federal income tax, stupid.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> What makes them tax payers if they don&#8217;t pay the tax to which you<br />
>>>>> refer<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Because they would pay net federal income tax if they earnt more,<br />
>>>> stupid.<br />
>>><br />
>>> And you would be a rapist if you raped someone.<br />
>>> Unless they are paying taxes you claim to restrict yourself to they<br />
>>> aren&#8217;t<br />
>>> tax payers.  It&#8217;s quite simple.<br />
>>><br />
>>> I still remember my grandmother&#8217;s pumpkinless pumpkin pie.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Exxon paid about 40 billion  $40,000,000,000.00<br />
>><br />
><br />
> Which they happily booked as an expense and then passed on to their<br />
> customers<br />
>    And ultimately is was paid for by the consumers of their products<br />
> IN effect it was indirect taxation of the civilians</p>
<p>I agree, all taxes are paid by the people that do the work that creates<br />
<strong>wealth</strong>, the middle man and government workers/parasites that simply<br />
charge more and live-off others and does NO real work that creates<br />
<strong>wealth</strong> has not done anything, and is unable to pay tax because they are<br />
a beneficiary of the tax.</p>
<p>>><br />
>> Just a year or two back before Obama said this was NOT the time for<br />
>> profits.<br />
>><br />
>> When did you <strong>EVER</strong> pay 1% of that as a tax?<br />
>><br />
><br />
> Shows how stupid Obama and his followers are.<br />
>    They want to <strong>change</strong> corporations into non-profit <strong>NGOS</strong>.</p>
<p>Obama and his <strong>Socialists</strong> are economic idiots.   I&#8217;ve been saying it for<br />
3 years.</p>
<p>At no time have income taxes created an income into the treasury of more<br />
than 18% of <strong>GDP</strong>&#8230;&#8230;   The glass ceiling for taxes creating more income<br />
into the treasury is apparently 18% of <strong>GDP</strong>,  that means that we need to<br />
grow the <strong>GDP</strong> if we want more <strong>money</strong> to pay for government spending.</p>
<p>The other option is to limit Government spending to 18% of <strong>GDP</strong>.  Then<br />
the <strong>Socialists</strong> can use the <strong>TAX</strong> <strong>CODE</strong> to penalize hard work like they want.</p>
<p>They need to decide whether they want to use TAXES as a stick to punish<br />
us or do they want it to create income into the Treasury, apparently it<br />
won&#8217;t do both at the same time.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/4/2011 11:45 AM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote: > On Nov 3, 2:34 pm, Old Baye wrote: >> On 11/2/2011 6:25 PM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On Nov 2, 12:45 pm, Old Baye wrote: >>>> On 11/2/2011 7:17 AM, TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote: >> >>>>> On Nov [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On <strong>11</strong>/4/2011 <strong>11</strong>:45 AM, TibetanMonkey, the <strong>Beach Cruiser Philosopher</strong> wrote:<br />
> On Nov 3, 2:34 pm, Old Baye <o ...@in.valid> wrote:<br />
>> On <strong>11</strong>/2/2011 6:25 PM, TibetanMonkey, the <strong>Beach Cruiser Philosopher</strong> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> On Nov 2, 12:45 pm, Old Baye</o><o ...@in.valid>  wrote:<br />
>>>> On <strong>11</strong>/2/2011 7:17 AM, TibetanMonkey, the <strong>Beach Cruiser Philosopher</strong> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>> On Nov 1, 7:44 pm, Nickname unavailable<vide ...@tcq.net>   wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>    the old economy(free market economics, free trade, globalism)is<br />
>>>>>> collapsing.<br />
>><br />
>>>>> Yes, it is.<br />
>><br />
>>>> No, it is NOT.<br />
>><br />
>>> Yes, you are broke.<br />
>><br />
>> No, I am not.<br />
>><br />
>> Grasp reality, soon.<br />
><br />
> You are not because for you <strong>USA</strong> means United Selfish of America&#8230; and<br />
> it shows. Grasp reality about the nation. Two unpaid wars, a bubble<br />
> that popped and no new taxes!</p>
<p><strong>HIGHER</strong> Taxes have NEVER raised the income to the treasury higher than<br />
18% of <strong>GDP</strong>&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>That said, raising taxes will only raise treasury income up to 18% of<br />
<strong>GDP</strong> which means that you have to raise the <strong>GDP</strong> (NOT <strong>TAXES</strong>) to raise<br />
Treasury income once you hit 18% of <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a glass ceiling that has yet to be explained other than people<br />
start looking for ways to hide income or simply stop earning when taxes<br />
become too high.   Which makes it impossible to pay for war by simply<br />
raising taxes.</p>
<p>So if you want to pay off the war you need income to the <strong>TREASURY</strong> and<br />
not higher taxes, they are two different items.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[["""[Below: See Letter from Porter Stansberry to Obama: ‘We simply can’t afford this nonsense anymore…’ Saturday, April 23, 2011 In honor of Monday’s national Tax Day, I wrote the following letter to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Please feel free to pass this around if you like it… Dear Mr. President, Welcome to the ashbin of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>["""[Below: See Letter from <strong>Porter Stansberry</strong> to Obama: ‘We simply can’t<br />
afford this nonsense anymore…’</p>
<p>Saturday, April <strong>23</strong>, 2011</p>
<p>In honor of Monday’s national <strong>Tax Day</strong>, I wrote the following letter to<br />
Mr. Barack <strong>Hussein Obama</strong>. Please feel free to pass this around if you<br />
like it…</p>
<p><strong>Dear Mr</strong>. President,</p>
<p>Welcome to the ashbin of society.</p>
<p>With the speech you gave last week, you have firmly and permanently put<br />
yourself in the same garbage bag as all the other communists and<br />
socialists of the 20th century.</p>
<p>Your speech sounded like the faint echo of a speech Lenin gave in an icy<br />
square in <strong>Moscow</strong> 100 years ago.</p>
<p>The promises you made, Mr. President, about the government giving people<br />
things they can’t provide for themselves – a better income, reliable<br />
health care, an advanced education, cheaper <strong>mortgages</strong>, a “shiny, happy”<br />
life – have been made time and time again… sometimes by speakers even<br />
better than you.</p>
<p>And they have always been lies.</p>
<p>While the government can <strong>demand</strong> obedience (and <strong>taxes</strong>), it can’t mandate<br />
dedication, creativity, or innovation. The fact is, the government<br />
itself is nothing more (or less) than the organized ambitions of the people.</p>
<p>Promising something to the people that they don’t already have is a<br />
logical absurdity. And therein lies the timeless flaw of all<br />
collectivist theory: Governments cannot deliver benefits to the people<br />
that the people cannot deliver to themselves.</p>
<p>To demonstrate this truth, consider this example… Governments cannot<br />
simply mandate higher tax revenue. Any substantial increase to tax rates<br />
will reduce total collections, an economic phenomenon known as the<br />
“<strong>Laffer Curve</strong>.”</p>
<p>This has been proven countless times in our country and many others. Any<br />
sensible person will immediately understand why. Taxes are a<br />
disincentive. The higher the marginal rate of tax, the more powerful its<br />
impact.</p>
<p>That’s why, over many decades (and many different tax structures), U.S.<br />
tax revenues have been remarkably stable at around 20% of <strong>GDP</strong>. That’s<br />
why, as you surely know, Mr. President, changing the tax code will not<br />
result in increased tax revenue.</p>
<p>Taxing only the rich simply doesn’t work. It never has. And it never<br />
will. To increase the government’s revenues, we must first increase the<br />
size of the economy. The government cannot tax what the economy doesn’t<br />
produce.</p>
<p>In another time, most Americans might have simply ignored your speech as<br />
the ignorant remarks of yet another handsome, Ivy League-educated,<br />
dilettante president. But at this point in our history, my bet is people<br />
are going to take you far more seriously than you expect. In fact, I<br />
think you’re going to get what you deserve – the trash heap. Why will<br />
Americans turn on you so rapidly and so completely?</p>
<p>Two things have changed – forever – about American politics.</p>
<p>The first is the media and access to critical information. It’s no<br />
longer possible for a president’s administration to control what people<br />
read, see, and think by simply managing the evening news broadcasts.</p>
<p>Thus, all your lies are now exposed almost instantly and broadcast to<br />
millions of people via websites and services like the <strong>Drudge Report</strong>,<br />
Twitter, and Facebook. Socialism cannot possibly survive over any long<br />
period of time in a society with a free media – because socialism is<br />
based on a lie. Facebook means the “half-life” of socialism is now weeks<br />
instead of years.</p>
<p>Even mainstream publications like the <strong>Wall Street</strong> Journal have called<br />
you a liar recently. They have no choice. Your lies were broadcast to<br />
the entire world long before their op-ed pieces appeared.</p>
<p>Your advisors told you none of these “bloggers” mattered. All you had to<br />
do was promise more benefits to more voters and then force fewer voters<br />
to pay for it all. I’m sure you did the political calculus… You believed<br />
your <strong>power</strong> to bribe and bamboozle the poor and the ignorant was stronger<br />
than the resentment you’d engender among the “rich.” And I must admit…<br />
since at least World <strong>War</strong> II, that’s been a safe bet in American politics.</p>
<p>But you forgot one critical factor: We simply can’t afford this nonsense<br />
anymore…</p>
<p>Immediately after your speech, the price of silver went from $39 to a<br />
new high above $42. Gold went up, too.</p>
<p>These are signs, Mr. President, that the world is losing confidence in<br />
our currency. If our foreign creditors were to call in our debts,<br />
America would suffer an economic cataclysm unlike anything we’ve ever<br />
seen in our entire history.</p>
<p>Americans now owe a total of $56 trillion. Without the Fed’s<br />
<strong>money</strong>-printing, it’s unlikely we could afford even the interest on these<br />
existing debts… much less the $1.5 trillion or more in debt you continue<br />
to rack up year after year by promising benefits we haven’t earned.</p>
<p>Sooner or later, our foreign creditors are going to decide our<br />
<strong>money</strong>-printing amounts to a default, and they will stop buying our<br />
bonds. On that day, everyone who trusts you, everyone who believes in<br />
your lies, will be wiped out.</p>
<p>But that won’t be as many people as you expect.</p>
<p>Almost every American knows in his <strong>heart</strong> what made this country great<br />
for the 200 years between 1776 and 1976. It wasn’t the lies of our<br />
presidents. It wasn’t our ability to print <strong>money</strong> and rip off our Chinese<br />
creditors. It wasn’t the modern crybaby mentality of our school system<br />
or our unions. It wasn’t the baby boomer’s dream of a 40-year retirement<br />
with free prescription drugs.</p>
<p>And it sure as hell wasn’t a suave, made-for-TV version of Karl Marx<br />
promising everything to everyone, but with no way to pay for it.</p>
<p>No. What built America was her people’s unwavering faith that they were<br />
free to enjoy the rewards of their accomplishments.</p>
<p>As our country tumbles into bankruptcy and crisis, the people are going<br />
to want their prosperity back, Mr. President. And deep down, they all<br />
know… even your most fervent supporters know… you don’t have the goods.<br />
You don’t have the foggiest idea of how to deliver prosperity to America<br />
because, really, you don’t understand what America is all about.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p><strong>Porter Stansberry</strong><br />
Stansberry’s <strong>Investment Advisory</strong></p>
<p>With today’s essay, I am announcing my complete support for “the rich”<br />
– the class of people Mr. Obama and his ilk castigate at every<br />
opportunity. Ironically, it is these same people Obama expects to line<br />
up like sheep waiting to be sheared. My best advice? Don’t get in that line.</p>
<p>Despite what Mr. Obama and his vast team of lawyer buddies, career<br />
academics, and professional bureaucrats believe, most “rich” people in<br />
America got that way by working hard for a long time. They got that way<br />
by taking risks, educating themselves, starting small businesses, and<br />
selling valuable services or products to their fellow citizens. They<br />
didn’t inherit their wealth. They didn’t rip anyone off. They didn’t buy<br />
political favors from people like <strong>Barack Obama</strong>.</p>
<p>They got that way by working hard to achieve the original American<br />
Dream… not Obama’s new “progressive” <strong>American Dream</strong>, where everyone can<br />
live at the expense of his neighbor. That’s why Obama’s grandstanding<br />
must be viewed in a new way. We need to realize when Obama vilifies the<br />
“rich,” he is vilifying the “achievers.”</p>
<p>And keep in mind… these achievers are already paying their share. The<br />
top 5% of income earners in America pay nearly 60% of this country’s<br />
income <strong>taxes</strong>.</p>
<p>America needs the achievers. We need investment. We need capital. We<br />
need jobs and innovation and vast increases to productivity. The<br />
government can supply none of these things. So to do my part, I plan to<br />
support the achievers.</p>
<p>Like it or not, as deep in debt as we are, the achievers are our only<br />
hope. That’s why I’m standing up for them. We need the achievers – and<br />
we need more of them to want to come to America with their corporations<br />
and their wealth. You might admire the generosity and egalitarianism of<br />
idealized socialism in some pseudo-intellectual way… But we can’t afford<br />
that nonsense right now. We don’t have enough wealth on a net basis left<br />
to plunder.</p>
<p>We need more of the people Obama and his gang of petty tyrants label<br />
“rich,” “greedy,” and “mean spirited.” These are the people who can get<br />
our country moving in the right direction, right away. Folks who have<br />
spent their lives in the real world recognize the people Obama calls<br />
“rich,” “greedy,” and “mean spirited” as “successful,” “accomplished,”<br />
and “hard working.”</p>
<p>Now… before you send me an angry letter, ask yourself this question: If<br />
America had the lowest corporate tax rate in the world (instead of the<br />
highest), do you think we’d have more companies located here, or fewer?</p>
<p>If we got rid of the estate tax, which makes it impossible for<br />
successful entrepreneurs to leave their companies to their children, do<br />
you think we’d have more family businesses, or fewer? And if we taxed<br />
all people at the same (hopefully low) rate, do you think more wealthy<br />
people from around the world would want to live here, or fewer?</p>
<p>What can I do for the achievers? For one, I can stand up for them and<br />
try to convince you, my dear readers, that we need them – and we need<br />
more and more of them. As such, we shouldn’t treat them so badly or try<br />
to steal from them so blatantly. More directly, of course, I can also<br />
support them by telling them exactly what they can still do to get out<br />
of that shearing line…</p>
<p>In the coming days, weeks, and months, you will see more and more<br />
evidence of my support for the “rich.” I plan to offer you more and more<br />
information about how to get your assets outside the reach of Mr. Obama<br />
and his ilk, including more ideas like buying foreign real estate (which<br />
is, in my view, the best way to get your assets out of the U.S. without<br />
having to report a thing to the U.S. government).</p>
<p>You’ll find this information and other ways to protect yourself from<br />
the currency crisis in my newsletter, Stansberry’s <strong>Investment Advisory</strong>.<br />
Click here to gain access immediately.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p><strong>Porter Stansberry</strong><br />
]&#8220;&#8221;"]</p>
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		<title>Most Climate Science Data &amp; Modeling Isn&#8217;t Very Exotic</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 7/10/2011 4:35 PM, Bret Cahill wrote: >>>>>>>> What is so interesting about the &#8220;controversy&#8221; is that, unlike quantun >>>>>>>> mechanics, most of the modeling and data aren&#8217;t all too exotic. >> >>>>>>>> Most who are interested could figure it out. >> >>>>>>>> Check some thermometers and sat. images every few years and drill some [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/10/2011 4:35 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>> What is so interesting about the &#8220;controversy&#8221; is that, unlike quantun<br />
>>>>>>>> mechanics, most of the modeling and data aren&#8217;t all too exotic.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> Most who are interested could figure it out.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> Check some thermometers and sat. images every few years and drill some<br />
>>>>>>>> ice cores.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> Very little high level math is involved.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> The only conclusion is deniers are as dumb as stumps.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> Bret Cahill<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>> That&#8217;s not very reassuring for the anti-deniers: &#8220;our programs are<br />
>>>>>>> simplistic, so you can trust them&#8221;? ?In fact the trend in GCMs has<br />
>>>>>>> been towards greater complexity as computing power has increased over<br />
>>>>>>> the years. ?The resolution of these programs, which used to be<br />
>>>>>>> continent sized, is now down to several hundred kilometers. ?But we<br />
>>>>>>> need for the resolution to go to meters before we can be confident of<br />
>>>>>>> their predictions.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>> &#8220;Further research is needed on the AGW hypothesis&#8221;.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> Resolution schmesolution. Without being able to model clouds,<br />
>><br />
>>>>> They finished that off last year.<br />
>><br />
>>>> &#8220;Finished that off&#8221;? ?Cite a paper.<br />
>><br />
>>> <a href="http://www.sciencenews.org/index/generic/activity/view/id/67324/title..." >http://www.sciencenews.org/index/generic/activity/view/id/67324/title&#8230;</a><br />
>><br />
>>> <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827893.400-goodbye-grey-skies..." >http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20827893.400-goodbye-grey-skies&#8230;</a><br />
>><br />
>> Very weak.<br />
>><br />
>> Both of those, along with the University of Chicago paper I am well aware<br />
>> of, only model small portions of the atmosphere. There is nothing approaching<br />
>> a general understanding.<br />
><br />
> IOW you never read the study.<br />
><br />
> But why should a denier read anything when all he has to do is say<br />
> everything is a conspiracy?<br />
><br />
><br />
> Bret Cahill</p>
<p>you mean the same way you deny that tax cuts create more revenue into<br />
the treasury.  The way you deny that tax cuts or at least stable taxes<br />
help create jobs&#8230;.   and the way that you deny that taking more of the<br />
GDP from the private sector that creates it and giving it to the<br />
government sector that wastes it will continue to damage and shrink the<br />
private sector economy and that&#8217;s the only thing paying for all your<br />
government nonsense and waste?</p>
<p>You mean the way that you deny and don&#8217;t read the facts?</p>
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		<title>you want to tax away $4.7  trillion dollars of the $15 trillion GDP</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 6/24/2011 8:18 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > RD Sandman wrote: >> Bob LeChevalier wrote in >> news:0s67079bgfkkhtqrtdhsvnmu3rgt5ahaum @&#038;*$?%4ax.com: >> >>> &#8220;Scout&#8221; wrote: >>>> &#8220;Bob LeChevalier&#8221; wrote in message >>>> news:fu0407l7mtfquqk1uinc347r1bh1fk7lst @&#038;*$?%4ax.com&#8230; >>>>> RD Sandman wrote: >>>>>> The bottom line is that they want single payer for all and that >>>>>> payer is the government. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 6/24/2011 8:18 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
> RD Sandman <rdsandman @comcast[remove].net> wrote:<br />
>> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab @lojban.org> wrote in<br />
>> news:0s67079bgfkkhtqrtdhsvnmu3rgt5ahaum<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
>><br />
>>> &#8220;Scout&#8221; <me4guns @verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net> wrote:<br />
>>>> &#8220;Bob LeChevalier&#8221; <lojbab @lojban.org> wrote in message<br />
>>>> news:fu0407l7mtfquqk1uinc347r1bh1fk7lst<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com&#8230;<br />
>>>>> RD Sandman <rdsandman @comcast[remove].net> wrote:<br />
>>>>>> The bottom line is that they want single payer for all and that<br />
>>>>>> payer is the government.  Not necessarily a bad thing, but how in<br />
>>>>>> the world do they expect to pay for it?<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> The way every government in the world that has single payer pays for<br />
>>>>> it.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> By going broke?<br />
>>><br />
>>> Most other countries are not growing broke.<br />
>><br />
>> Interesting, the CBO was in an article today talking about how close this<br />
>> country is to disaster on the debt.<br />
><br />
> The same article possibly.<br />
><br />
> Using the baseline scenario, in which the Bush tax cuts expire, along<br />
> with all other temporary measures, everything improves.</p>
<p>Improves for who?  The government needs money to pay for what they have<br />
already spent&#8230;..   taxing the rich of all their profits won&#8217;t cover<br />
your expensive government taste.</p>
<p>Show us a scenario that will pay for all your spending&#8230;.  You need<br />
$1.5 Trillion more Dollars a year to get close to paying the bills and<br />
bump that up to $2 Trillion to start a 30 &#8211; 40 year QUEST to pay down<br />
the $15trillan in NATIONAL DEBT</p>
<p>Where will you tax 2 trillion dollars? That is 13% of the $15Trillion<br />
dollar GDP.  You tax away 18% of the GDP presently.  That means you want<br />
to tax away $4.7  trillion dollars of the $15 trillion GDP,   How will<br />
30% of the GDP being stolen from the people that created it affect the<br />
economy?</p>
<p>IF YOU don&#8217;t raise taxes and you can double the GDP by growing the<br />
economy over the next ten years by allowing people to keep what they<br />
earn.   You would increase the tax reciepts into the Federal Treasury<br />
to $4.65 Trillion.</p>
<p>The ONLY way to stop deficit spending is to cap Federal spending and<br />
release Capitalism from the chains of Federal Socialism.</p>
<p></rdsandman></lojbab></me4guns></lojbab></rdsandman></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[> On 6/23/2011 4:00 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: >> Beam Me Up Scotty >> wrote: >>>> The bottom line is that they want single payer for all and that payer is >>>> the government. Not necessarily a bad thing, but how in the world do >>>> they expect to pay for it? Social Security is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> On 6/23/2011 4:00 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
>> Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>blackhole.nebulax.com>
>> wrote:<br />
>>>> The bottom line is that they want single payer for all and that payer is<br />
>>>> the government.  Not necessarily a bad thing, but how in the world do<br />
>>>> they expect to pay for it?  Social Security is already 20% of the budget<br />
>>>> and forecast to increase in cost by 70% by the end of the decade.<br />
>>>> Medicare/Medicaid is another 21% and Medicare is forecast to increase in<br />
>>>> cost by 77% and Medicaid by 99% by the end of the decade.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Not only can&#8217;t the federal government afford it.<br />
>><br />
>> Odd that several other countries are managing to afford it.<br />
>><br />
>>> it will destroy the private economy in the long run<br />
>><br />
>> and they have healthy private economies as well.<br />
>><br />
>>> Single payer government health care has crippled the economy<br />
>>> every where it&#8217;s tried</p>
<p>>><br />
>> Germany&#8217;s economy is doing just dandy</p>
<p>Yes if;</p>
<p>The gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) of<br />
Germany is 2,863,000,000,000 .<br />
GDP Per Capita: 34,800<br />
GDP Real Growth Rate: 1.3%</p>
<p>From 1991 until 2010, Germany&#8217;s average quarterly GDP Growth was 0.29<br />
percent &#8230; This page includes: Germany GDP Growth Rate chart,<br />
historical data and news.</p>
<p>*IF* 1.3% *is RAGING*</p>
<p>Keep in mind the margin of error is usually 2% so they may actually be<br />
flat or negative but I&#8217;ll accept their numbers for the lack luster<br />
numbers that they are.</p>
<p>All the economies that have government health care are habitually weak<br />
and their best years look about like our worst years.</p>
<p>Germany can&#8217;t run 4 wars and they can&#8217;t defeat communism and they can&#8217;t<br />
feed Africa and they don&#8217;t fund 30% of the IMF or NATO or the UN&#8230;&#8230;<br />
With a GDP like that we would be bankrupt in less than a decade.</p>
<p>Germany never paid to land a man on the moon&#8230;..</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 6/23/2011 5:47 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Gray Ghost wrote: >> If you think that the Constitution gives the Congress and the President the >> power to run the nation&#8217;s economy > > That is what &#8220;regulate interstate commerce&#8221; means when almost all of > that $14.7 trillion economy is inherently interstate. > > [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 6/23/2011 5:47 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471 -newsgroups<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>yahoo.com> wrote:<br />
>> If you think that the Constitution gives the Congress and the President the<br />
>> power to run the nation&#8217;s economy<br />
><br />
> That is what &#8220;regulate interstate commerce&#8221; means when almost all of<br />
> that $14.7 trillion economy is inherently interstate.<br />
><br />
> The portions of the economy that are entirely intrastate don&#8217;t add<br />
> much to the GDP.</p>
<p>If so then there is no reason to step on the toes of the States internal<br />
economy to force a few more regulations.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to extend it with interpretations that call things<br />
&#8220;effecting&#8221; the economy &#8220;interstate Commerce&#8221;.</p>
<p></grey_ghost471></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 6/23/2011 5:15 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Bob LeChevalier wrote: >> Gray Ghost wrote: >>> Bob LeChevalier wrote in >>> news:2n9vv6hefqtieumf37fa048uqfb43gj7km @&#038;*$?%4ax.com: >>>>> Well them maybe you jerk offs should decide what it is, becuase during the >>>>> health care &#8220;debate&#8221; you claimed it wasn&#8217;t a tax. >>>> >>>> I made no such claim. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 6/23/2011 5:15 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab @lojban.org> wrote:<br />
>> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471 -newsgroups<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>yahoo.com> wrote:<br />
>>> Bob LeChevalier <lojbab @lojban.org> wrote in<br />
>>> news:2n9vv6hefqtieumf37fa048uqfb43gj7km<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
>>>>> Well them maybe you jerk offs should decide what it is, becuase during the<br />
>>>>> health care &#8220;debate&#8221; you claimed it wasn&#8217;t a tax.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> I made no such claim.  And I personally don&#8217;t care what it is, and I<br />
>>>> also think that Obama should indeed raise taxes on everyone until the<br />
>>>> budget deficit is eliminated, regardless of his promise.  Fiscal<br />
>>>> responsibility is more important than campaign promises.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Oh really? Are yopu some kind of <acronym title="fucking"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> f&*$?%g</span></acronym> financial genius?<br />
>><br />
>> No.<br />
>><br />
>>> The debt currently = GDP and is expected to double in 8 years.<br />
>><br />
>> Yes.  Therefore, taxes should be raised to eliminate that problem.<br />
>> Ending the wars, and eliminating ALL of the Bush tax cuts solves most<br />
>> of the problem.<br />
><br />
> The CBO just put out a forecast that backs me up.  Letting the Bush<br />
> tax cuts expire and letting the alternate minimum tax stay unchanged<br />
> completely eliminates the deficit in a few years.<br />
><br />
> <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/cbo-well-only-have-giant-deficits-if-congress-wants-giant-deficits/2011/05/19/AG3w7pfH_blog.html" >http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/cbo-well-only-have-giant-deficits-if-congress-wants-giant-deficits/2011/05/19/AG3w7pfH_blog.html</a><br />
><br />
>
<the Congressional Budget Office just released the latest edition of<br />
> < its long-term budget outlook (pdf), and it shows the same thing as<br />
> < always: If Congress lets the Bush tax cuts expire or offsets their<br />
> < extension, implements the Affordable Care Act as scheduled and makes<br />
> < or offset the Medicare cuts prescribed by the 1997 Balanced Budget<br />
> < Act — which CBO calls the “extended baseline scenario” — the national<br />
> < debt will be totally manageable. If Congress passes laws extending<br />
> < the Bush tax cuts without offsetting the cost, repealing the<br />
> < Affordable Care Act and its cost controls and protecting doctors from<br />
> < Medicare cuts without making up the savings elsewhere — the<br />
> < “alternative fiscal scenario” — the national debt will be totally out<br />
> < of control:<br />
><br />
> Embedded link:<br />
> <a href="http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/122xx/doc12212/06-21-Long-Term_Budget_Outlook.pdf" >http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/122xx/doc12212/06-21-Long-Term_Budget_Outlook.pdf</a><br />
><br />
><br />
>>> and need<br />
>>> Needs to hire new workers to make sell and servie the product.<br />
>><br />
>> They could hire workers now, but they won&#8217;t because they cannot sell<br />
>> the product.  Similarly, housing prices are dropping because people<br />
>> aren&#8217;t buying houses at the current prices.<br />
>><br />
>> Eliminating the Bush tax cuts won&#8217;t change any of this.<br />
><br />
> It eliminates the bulk of the deficit by about 2015.</p>
<p>The economic crash from tax hikes would cause a decrease in tax receipts<br />
into the Treasury&#8230;..  using a linear formula of dollar for dollar tax<br />
raised to taxes realized is not exactly using your brain.</p>
<p>Higher taxes will likely produce fewer tax dollars not more in a weak<br />
economy.</p>
<p>Our economy is flat-lining and you want to bludgeon it to death.</p>
</the></lojbab></grey_ghost471></lojbab></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[>> Gray Ghost wrote: >>> Bob LeChevalier wrote in >>> news:2n9vv6hefqtieumf37fa048uqfb43gj7km @&#038;*$?%4ax.com: >>>>> Well them maybe you jerk offs should decide what it is, becuase during the >>>>> health care &#8220;debate&#8221; you claimed it wasn&#8217;t a tax. >> >>>> I made no such claim. And I personally don&#8217;t care what it is, and I >>>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>> Gray Ghost <grey_ghost471 -newsgro...@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />
>>> Bob LeChevalier <loj ...@lojban.org> wrote in<br />
>>> news:2n9vv6hefqtieumf37fa048uqfb43gj7km<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
>>>>> Well them maybe you jerk offs should decide what it is, becuase during the<br />
>>>>> health care &#8220;debate&#8221; you claimed it wasn&#8217;t a tax.<br />
>><br />
>>>> I made no such claim.  And I personally don&#8217;t care what it is, and I<br />
>>>> also think that Obama should indeed raise taxes on everyone until the<br />
>>>> budget deficit is eliminated, regardless of his promise.  Fiscal<br />
>>>> responsibility is more important than campaign promises.<br />
>><br />
>>> Oh really? Are yopu some kind of <acronym title="fucking"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> f&*$?%g</span></acronym> financial genius?<br />
>><br />
>> No.<br />
>><br />
>>> The debt currently = GDP and is expected to double in 8 years.</p>
<p>Problem is, GDP isn&#8217;t going to double&#8230;.</p>
<p>We are falling off a cliff in slow motion.    Keep looking for the<br />
ground you&#8217;ll kiss it real hard, one of these days.</p>
<p></loj></grey_ghost471></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 6/15/2011 9:51 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote: > > > > All you need is an FD:GDP:1934:10.9 %:1935:8.9 %:1936:13.0 %: > 1937:5.1%:By 1936, the U.S. economy had regained the ground it lost > during the devastating 1929-33 period:1937 FDR listened to > conservatives to balance the budget:the economy slipped into a sharp > recession and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 6/15/2011 9:51 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:<br />
><br />
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> All you need is an FD:GDP:1934:10.9 %:1935:8.9 %:1936:13.0 %:<br />
> 1937:5.1%:By 1936, the U.S. economy had regained the ground it lost<br />
> during the devastating 1929-33 period:1937 FDR listened to<br />
> conservatives to balance the budget:the economy slipped into a sharp<br />
> recession and shrank 3.4%:spending resumed and growth exploded<br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
> 1939: 8.1 percent<br />
><br />
> 1940: 8.8 percent<br />
><br />
> 1941: 17.1 percent<br />
><br />
> 1942: 18.5 percent<br />
><br />
> 1943: 16.4 percent<br />
><br />
> 1944: 8.1 percent<br />
><br />
> By 1944, the U.S. economy was twice as large as it was in 1930 and<br />
> almost three times the size it was in 1933. The decade between 1934<br />
> and 1944 marked a truly remarkable period of growth. Of course, a big<br />
> chunk of the above-trend<br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
> <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pawlenty-5-Percent-Growth-dg-4192262000.html?x=0" >http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Pawlenty-5-Percent-Growth-dg-4192262000.html?x=0</a><br />
><br />
> Pawlenty’s 5 Percent Growth Solution Makes Historical Sense<br />
><br />
><br />
><br />
> Daniel Gross, On Tuesday June 14, 2011, 4:16 pm EDT<br />
><br />
><br />
> Former Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty, now a candidate for the<br />
> Republican presidential nomination, has been getting a lot of grief<br />
> for his promise that the U.S. economy could grow five percent per year<br />
> for 10 years if only we follow his program of big tax cuts, spending<br />
> reductions and deregulation. The claim has raised eyebrows across the<br />
> spectrum. After all, $15 trillion economies simply don&#8217;t grow that<br />
> rapidly over such long periods of time. Pawlenty argues that &#8220;we&#8217;ve<br />
> done it before&#8221; and &#8220;the same can happen again.&#8221;Between 1983 and 1987,<br />
> he pointed out, the economy grew at an average rate of 4.9 percent,<br />
> and between 1996 and 1999, the economy grew at an average rate of 4.7<br />
> percent.<br />
><br />
> Sticklers will point out that growth in those impressive periods was<br />
> less than five percent, and that these two golden periods combined<br />
> didn&#8217;t last 10 years. Pawlenty&#8217;s response has been to accuse the<br />
> doubters of not believing in America. &#8220;And this idea that we can&#8217;t<br />
> have 5 percent growth in America is hogwash,&#8221; as he put it in last<br />
> night&#8217;s debate. &#8220;It&#8217;s a defeatist attitude. If China can have 5<br />
> percent growth and Brazil can have 5 percent growth, then the United<br />
> States of America can have 5 percent growth.&#8221; (Sticklers will point<br />
> out that poor countries such as China and Brazil can grow by 5 percent<br />
> with relative ease because they&#8217;re poor.)<br />
><br />
> But here&#8217;s the thing. The U.S. has shown an ability to grow at more<br />
> than five percent a year for several years in a row. And it did so at<br />
> a time when many people doubted the capacity of the U.S. to reinvent<br />
> itself and recover its economic footing. It&#8217;s surprising that Pawlenty<br />
> doesn&#8217;t talk more about that period.<br />
><br />
> The Commerce Department has GDP numbers that go back to 1930. Click<br />
> here and then select &#8220;Annual&#8221; in the options section. The data show<br />
> that between 1930 and 1933, the U.S. endured four straight years of<br />
> horrific contraction. The economy shrank by more than a quarter.<br />
><br />
> But then look what happened. The panic stopped and growth resumed at<br />
> an impressive pace. As follows:<br />
><br />
> 1934: 10.9 percent<br />
><br />
> 1935: 8.9 percent<br />
><br />
> 1936: 13.0 percent<br />
><br />
> 1937: 5.1 percent<br />
><br />
> By 1936, the U.S. economy had regained the ground it lost during the<br />
> devastating 1929-33 period. In 1937, the economy slipped into a sharp<br />
> recession and shrank 3.4 percent. But it returned to growth, and the<br />
> economy enjoyed several more years of extremely rapid growth.<br />
><br />
> 1939: 8.1 percent</p>
<p>Pre war manufacturing when we sold supplies to the British and the<br />
Russians and American industries were paid in GOLD.</p>
<p>> 1940: 8.8 percent<br />
><br />
> 1941: 17.1 percent</p>
<p>War started in earnest for America 1941.<br />
><br />
> 1942: 18.5 percent<br />
><br />
> 1943: 16.4 percent<br />
><br />
> 1944: 8.1 percent</p>
<p>End of war supplies sales.</p>
<p>We started reconstruction in Europe and Japan, The Marshall Plan was a<br />
boom as we made money from the rebuilding.</p>
<p>The Baby Boom started at the end of WWII 1945 &#8211; 1965&#8230;.</p>
<p>> By 1944, the U.S. economy was twice as large as it was in 1930 and<br />
> almost three times the size it was in 1933. The decade between 1934<br />
> and 1944 marked a truly remarkable period of growth. Of course, a big<br />
> chunk of the above-trend growth can be ascribed to World War II, which<br />
> supercharged America&#8217;s productive capacity. But the U.S. didn&#8217;t enter<br />
> the war until the end of 1941, and the gains before Pearl Harbor were<br />
> quite impressive.</p>
<p>Yes and there were war materials being sold to Europe and Russia pre<br />
1941. Those Gains were fueled by GOLD from Europe and Russia preparing<br />
for war with Germany.</p>
<p>Our own government confiscating profits from one Business and spending<br />
it on war does little to create wealth.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/9/2011 3:32 PM, Bret Cahill wrote: >> Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. > > That&#8217;s why the high tax budget balancing Clinton economic boom was so > popular and GOP tax cut deficit / recession is so unpopular. > > > Bret Cahill It was Government cutting costs that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/9/2011 3:32 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:<br />
>> Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems.<br />
><br />
> That&#8217;s why the high tax budget balancing Clinton economic boom was so<br />
> popular and GOP tax cut deficit / recession is so unpopular.<br />
><br />
><br />
> Bret Cahill</p>
<p>It was Government cutting costs that the &#8220;PEACE DIVIDEND&#8221; that created<br />
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/8/2011 1:00 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Beam Me Up Scotty > wrote: >> On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: >>> Beam Me Up Scotty >>> wrote: >>>>> More taxes is the answer. Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll >>>>> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy. >>>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/8/2011 1:00 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
> Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com>
> wrote:<br />
>> On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
>>> Beam Me Up Scotty </then>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com>
>>> wrote:<br />
>>>>> More taxes is the answer.  Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll<br />
>>>>> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> How will the GDP increase while you extract more money from people<br />
>>><br />
>>> 1) The money is extracted whether by debt or by taxes.<br />
>>><br />
>>> 2) Government is part of GDP, so cutting government may in fact cut<br />
>>> GDP.<br />
>><br />
>> Tell us how government creates wealth and therefore creates GDP.<br />
><br />
> GDP does not only come from wealth.  It comes from production (work)<br />
> and other things, including government spending.</p>
<p>Government hands out cash to workers that do nothing of value&#8230;.</p>
<p>What product/service does government sell at a profit? If they don&#8217;t<br />
sell at a profit then they don&#8217;t add to the GDP.  Infrastructure was<br />
paid for by the corporations who</p>
<p>Private industry builds the Space shuttle and and government uses the<br />
up, but the money came from the companies that paid tax so you get zero<br />
boost to the economy(GDP) when you take money from company &#8220;A&#8221; and give<br />
it to company &#8220;B&#8221; and the government just made the decision how it would<br />
be wasted rather than the original company earning it.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/8/2011 12:21 PM, Gary Forbis wrote: > On May 8, 9:01 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: >> On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: >> >>> Beam Me Up Scotty >>> wrote: >>>>> More taxes is the answer. Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll >>>>> have a controllable deficit [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/8/2011 12:21 PM, Gary Forbis wrote:<br />
> On May 8, 9:01 am, Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-<br />
> <a href="mailto:Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com">Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com</a>> wrote:<br />
>> On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> Beam Me Up Scotty </then>
<then -Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com>
>>> wrote:<br />
>>>>> More taxes is the answer.  Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll<br />
>>>>> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy.<br />
>><br />
>>>> How will the GDP increase while you extract more money from people<br />
>><br />
>>> 1) The money is extracted whether by debt or by taxes.<br />
>><br />
>>> 2) Government is part of GDP, so cutting government may in fact cut<br />
>>> GDP.<br />
>><br />
>> Tell us how government creates wealth and therefore creates GDP.<br />
><br />
> Well, GDP is pretty well defined at <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product</a><br />
><br />
> GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government spending +<br />
> (exports &#8211; imports)<br />
><br />
> What you want is some other measure.  GDP has its problems, that&#8217;s for<br />
> sure.<br />
> The important part is it&#8217;s well defined.  I have quite a bit of<br />
> problem dealing with<br />
> people who misuse terms then attempt to defend their misuse.<br />
><br />
> I&#8217;m not sure why you make a comment about &#8220;creates wealth&#8221; since<br />
> that&#8217;s<br />
> not a well defined term.  I could defend government creating wealth<br />
> but that&#8217;s<br />
> immaterial to the issue.</p>
<p>Then GDP is a poor measurement of a Nations wealth&#8230;.  the money being<br />
diverted from (Private Investment) that is money reused by business to<br />
grow and continue the function of business. The Government Spending is<br />
NOT helping the economy, and in fact are weakening Private Investments.</p>
<p>The existing equation: GDP = C + I + G + (X &#8211; M)<br />
The possible FIX/solution: GDP = Consumer spending + Investment +<br />
((Government spending) &#8211; (M1 printed new money/M total money)) + (X<br />
export &#8211; M import)</p>
<p>Government &#8220;printing and borrowing&#8221; and spending is harming the GDP and<br />
economy not helping the economy.</p>
<p>["""[It will just be a matter of time before the Fed has to make a major<br />
decision.  It will either have to continue to create new money and fund<br />
the Congress or it will have to stop and maybe even reverse.  If the Fed<br />
continues, it will eventually risk hyperinflation and a complete<br />
destruction of the currency.  If the Fed stops (which I think it<br />
ultimately will once we have high price inflation), then we will<br />
experience a major depression and the federal government will be forced<br />
to cut spending dramatically.<br />
]&#8220;&#8221;"]<br />
<a href="http://libertarianinvestments.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-fed-creates-money-out-of-thin-air.html" >http://libertarianinvestments.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-fed-creates-money-out-of-thin-air.html</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Beam Me Up Scotty > wrote: >>> More taxes is the answer. Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll >>> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy. >> >> How will the GDP increase while you extract more money from people > > [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
> Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com>
> wrote:<br />
>>> More taxes is the answer.  Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll<br />
>>> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy.<br />
>><br />
>> How will the GDP increase while you extract more money from people<br />
><br />
> 1) The money is extracted whether by debt or by taxes.</p>
<p>GDP isn&#8217;t debt if you have the cash to invest in your business you don&#8217;t<br />
need to borrow money and pay interest.</p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t get taxed then you have the cash to invest.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > Beam Me Up Scotty > wrote: >>> More taxes is the answer. Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll >>> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy. >> >> How will the GDP increase while you extract more money from people > > [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/6/2011 11:16 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
> Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com>
> wrote:<br />
>>> More taxes is the answer.  Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll<br />
>>> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy.<br />
>><br />
>> How will the GDP increase while you extract more money from people<br />
><br />
> 1) The money is extracted whether by debt or by taxes.<br />
><br />
> 2) Government is part of GDP, so cutting government may in fact cut<br />
> GDP.</p>
<p>Tell us how government creates wealth and therefore creates GDP.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/5/2011 8:24 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > P&#038;*$?%s wrote: >> On 5/4/2011 7:45 PM, Gary Forbis wrote: >>> On May 4, 7:01 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty >> Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: >>>> On 5/4/2011 9:47 PM, Gary Forbis wrote: >>>> >>>>> On May 4, 9:28 am, Gary Gore wrote: >>>>>> Conservative members of Congress have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/5/2011 8:24 AM, Bob LeChevalier wrote:<br />
> <acronym title="Peter Franks"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> P&*$?%s</span></acronym> <none @none.com> wrote:<br />
>> On 5/4/2011 7:45 PM, Gary Forbis wrote:<br />
>>> On May 4, 7:01 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-<br />
>>> <a href="mailto:Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com">Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com</a>>  wrote:<br />
>>>> On 5/4/2011 9:47 PM, Gary Forbis wrote:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> On May 4, 9:28 am, Gary Gore<ghg ...@Bellsouth.net>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>> Conservative members of Congress have introduced legislation to end<br />
>>>>>> ALL federal taxpayer funding of abortion<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> There is no federal taxpayer funding of abortion so no action need be<br />
>>>>> taken.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> So you have no complaints about legislation that will create no new law.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> With no opposition it should pass easily.<br />
>>><br />
>>> I&#8217;m very much against redundant legislation.  We don&#8217;t have time<br />
>>> to waste on this rhetorical posturing.  We need to raise the debt<br />
>>> limit<br />
>>> to save our country and the world economy.<br />
>><br />
>> Yes, more debt is the answer.<br />
><br />
> More taxes is the answer.  Go back to the Clinton tax rates and we&#8217;ll<br />
> have a controllable deficit and probably a booming economy.</p>
<p>How will the GDP increase while you extract more money from people and<br />
fewer people try to grow their business?</p>
<p></ghg></then></none></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Below: See Letter from Porter Stansberry to Obama: &#8216;We simply can&#8217;t afford this nonsense anymore…&#8217; Saturday, April 23, 2011 In honor of Monday&#8217;s national Tax Day, I wrote the following letter to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Please feel free to pass this around if you like it… Dear Mr. President, Welcome to the ashbin of [...]]]></description>
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<p>Saturday, April 23, 2011</p>
<p>In honor of Monday&#8217;s national Tax Day, I wrote the following letter to<br />
Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Please feel free to pass this around if you<br />
like it…</p>
<p>Dear Mr. President,</p>
<p>Welcome to the ashbin of society.</p>
<p>With the speech you gave last week, you have firmly and permanently put<br />
yourself in the same garbage bag as all the other communists and<br />
socialists of the 20th century.</p>
<p>Your speech sounded like the faint echo of a speech Lenin gave in an icy<br />
square in Moscow 100 years ago.</p>
<p>The promises you made, Mr. President, about the government giving people<br />
things they can&#8217;t provide for themselves – a better income, reliable<br />
health care, an advanced education, cheaper mortgages, a &#8220;shiny, happy&#8221;<br />
life – have been made time and time again… sometimes by speakers even<br />
better than you.</p>
<p>And they have always been lies.</p>
<p>While the government can demand obedience (and taxes), it can&#8217;t mandate<br />
dedication, creativity, or innovation. The fact is, the government<br />
itself is nothing more (or less) than the organized ambitions of the people.</p>
<p>Promising something to the people that they don&#8217;t already have is a<br />
logical absurdity. And therein lies the timeless flaw of all<br />
collectivist theory: Governments cannot deliver benefits to the people<br />
that the people cannot deliver to themselves.</p>
<p>To demonstrate this truth, consider this example… Governments cannot<br />
simply mandate higher tax revenue. Any substantial increase to tax rates<br />
will reduce total collections, an economic phenomenon known as the<br />
&#8220;Laffer Curve.&#8221;</p>
<p>This has been proven countless times in our country and many others. Any<br />
sensible person will immediately understand why. Taxes are a<br />
disincentive. The higher the marginal rate of tax, the more powerful its<br />
impact.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why, over many decades (and many different tax structures), U.S.<br />
tax revenues have been remarkably stable at around 20% of GDP. That&#8217;s<br />
why, as you surely know, Mr. President, changing the tax code will not<br />
result in increased tax revenue.</p>
<p>Taxing only the rich simply doesn&#8217;t work. It never has. And it never<br />
will. To increase the government&#8217;s revenues, we must first increase the<br />
size of the economy. The government cannot tax what the economy doesn&#8217;t<br />
produce.</p>
<p>In another time, most Americans might have simply ignored your speech as<br />
the ignorant remarks of yet another handsome, Ivy League-educated,<br />
dilettante president. But at this point in our history, my bet is people<br />
are going to take you far more seriously than you expect. In fact, I<br />
think you&#8217;re going to get what you deserve – the trash heap. Why will<br />
Americans turn on you so rapidly and so completely?</p>
<p>Two things have changed – forever – about American politics.</p>
<p>The first is the media and access to critical information. It&#8217;s no<br />
longer possible for a president&#8217;s administration to control what people<br />
read, see, and think by simply managing the evening news broadcasts.</p>
<p>Thus, all your lies are now exposed almost instantly and broadcast to<br />
millions of people via websites and services like the Drudge Report,<br />
Twitter, and Facebook. Socialism cannot possibly survive over any long<br />
period of time in a society with a free media – because socialism is<br />
based on a lie. Facebook means the &#8220;half-life&#8221; of socialism is now weeks<br />
instead of years.</p>
<p>Even mainstream publications like the Wall Street Journal have called<br />
you a liar recently. They have no choice. Your lies were broadcast to<br />
the entire world long before their op-ed pieces appeared.</p>
<p>Your advisors told you none of these &#8220;bloggers&#8221; mattered. All you had to<br />
do was promise more benefits to more voters and then force fewer voters<br />
to pay for it all. I&#8217;m sure you did the political calculus… You believed<br />
your power to bribe and bamboozle the poor and the ignorant was stronger<br />
than the resentment you&#8217;d engender among the &#8220;rich.&#8221; And I must admit…<br />
since at least World War II, that&#8217;s been a safe bet in American politics.</p>
<p>But you forgot one critical factor: We simply can&#8217;t afford this nonsense<br />
anymore…</p>
<p>Immediately after your speech, the price of silver went from $39 to a<br />
new high above $42. Gold went up, too.</p>
<p>These are signs, Mr. President, that the world is losing confidence in<br />
our currency. If our foreign creditors were to call in our debts,<br />
America would suffer an economic cataclysm unlike anything we&#8217;ve ever<br />
seen in our entire history.</p>
<p>Americans now owe a total of $56 trillion. Without the Fed&#8217;s<br />
money-printing, it&#8217;s unlikely we could afford even the interest on these<br />
existing debts… much less the $1.5 trillion or more in debt you continue<br />
to rack up year after year by promising benefits we haven&#8217;t earned.</p>
<p>Sooner or later, our foreign creditors are going to decide our<br />
money-printing amounts to a default, and they will stop buying our<br />
bonds. On that day, everyone who trusts you, everyone who believes in<br />
your lies, will be wiped out.</p>
<p>But that won&#8217;t be as many people as you expect.</p>
<p>Almost every American knows in his heart what made this country great<br />
for the 200 years between 1776 and 1976. It wasn&#8217;t the lies of our<br />
presidents. It wasn&#8217;t our ability to print money and rip off our Chinese<br />
creditors. It wasn&#8217;t the modern crybaby mentality of our school system<br />
or our unions. It wasn&#8217;t the baby boomer&#8217;s dream of a 40-year retirement<br />
with free prescription drugs.</p>
<p>And it sure as hell wasn&#8217;t a suave, made-for-TV version of Karl Marx<br />
promising everything to everyone, but with no way to pay for it.</p>
<p>No. What built America was her people&#8217;s unwavering faith that they were<br />
free to enjoy the rewards of their accomplishments.</p>
<p>As our country tumbles into bankruptcy and crisis, the people are going<br />
to want their prosperity back, Mr. President. And deep down, they all<br />
know… even your most fervent supporters know… you don&#8217;t have the goods.<br />
You don&#8217;t have the foggiest idea of how to deliver prosperity to America<br />
because, really, you don&#8217;t understand what America is all about.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Porter Stansberry<br />
Stansberry&#8217;s Investment Advisory</p>
<p>With today&#8217;s essay, I am announcing my complete support for &#8220;the rich&#8221;<br />
– the class of people Mr. Obama and his ilk castigate at every<br />
opportunity. Ironically, it is these same people Obama expects to line<br />
up like sheep waiting to be sheared. My best advice? Don&#8217;t get in that line.</p>
<p>Despite what Mr. Obama and his vast team of lawyer buddies, career<br />
academics, and professional bureaucrats believe, most &#8220;rich&#8221; people in<br />
America got that way by working hard for a long time. They got that way<br />
by taking risks, educating themselves, starting small businesses, and<br />
selling valuable services or products to their fellow citizens. They<br />
didn&#8217;t inherit their wealth. They didn&#8217;t rip anyone off. They didn&#8217;t buy<br />
political favors from people like Barack Obama.</p>
<p>They got that way by working hard to achieve the original American<br />
Dream… not Obama&#8217;s new &#8220;progressive&#8221; American Dream, where everyone can<br />
live at the expense of his neighbor. That&#8217;s why Obama&#8217;s grandstanding<br />
must be viewed in a new way. We need to realize when Obama vilifies the<br />
&#8220;rich,&#8221; he is vilifying the &#8220;achievers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And keep in mind… these achievers are already paying their share. The<br />
top 5% of income earners in America pay nearly 60% of this country&#8217;s<br />
income taxes.</p>
<p>America needs the achievers. We need investment. We need capital. We<br />
need jobs and innovation and vast increases to productivity. The<br />
government can supply none of these things. So to do my part, I plan to<br />
support the achievers.</p>
<p>Like it or not, as deep in debt as we are, the achievers are our only<br />
hope. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m standing up for them. We need the achievers – and<br />
we need more of them to want to come to America with their corporations<br />
and their wealth. You might admire the generosity and egalitarianism of<br />
idealized socialism in some pseudo-intellectual way… But we can&#8217;t afford<br />
that nonsense right now. We don&#8217;t have enough wealth on a net basis left<br />
to plunder.</p>
<p>We need more of the people Obama and his gang of petty tyrants label<br />
&#8220;rich,&#8221; &#8220;greedy,&#8221; and &#8220;mean spirited.&#8221; These are the people who can get<br />
our country moving in the right direction, right away. Folks who have<br />
spent their lives in the real world recognize the people Obama calls<br />
&#8220;rich,&#8221; &#8220;greedy,&#8221; and &#8220;mean spirited&#8221; as &#8220;successful,&#8221; &#8220;accomplished,&#8221;<br />
and &#8220;hard working.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now… before you send me an angry letter, ask yourself this question: If<br />
America had the lowest corporate tax rate in the world (instead of the<br />
highest), do you think we&#8217;d have more companies located here, or fewer?</p>
<p>If we got rid of the estate tax, which makes it impossible for<br />
successful entrepreneurs to leave their companies to their children, do<br />
you think we&#8217;d have more family businesses, or fewer? And if we taxed<br />
all people at the same (hopefully low) rate, do you think more wealthy<br />
people from around the world would want to live here, or fewer?</p>
<p>What can I do for the achievers? For one, I can stand up for them and<br />
try to convince you, my dear readers, that we need them – and we need<br />
more and more of them. As such, we shouldn&#8217;t treat them so badly or try<br />
to steal from them so blatantly. More directly, of course, I can also<br />
support them by telling them exactly what they can still do to get out<br />
of that shearing line…</p>
<p>In the coming days, weeks, and months, you will see more and more<br />
evidence of my support for the &#8220;rich.&#8221; I plan to offer you more and more<br />
information about how to get your assets outside the reach of Mr. Obama<br />
and his ilk, including more ideas like buying foreign real estate (which<br />
is, in my view, the best way to get your assets out of the U.S. without<br />
having to report a thing to the U.S. government).</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find this information and other ways to protect yourself from<br />
the currency crisis in my newsletter, Stansberry&#8217;s Investment Advisory.<br />
Click here to gain access immediately.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Porter Stansberry</p>
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		<title>US Trade rose in March &#8230;  Economy is growing !!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/29/2011 10:14 AM, Repubs Lost Both Wars wrote: > Demand for U.S. durable goods rose in March for a third consecutive > month, indicating business investment will pick up. Except that new taxes and more printing of money and more borrowing will crush more private sector investment. Redistribution takes the money from the private [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/29/2011 10:14 AM, Repubs Lost Both Wars wrote:<br />
> Demand for U.S. durable goods rose in March for a third consecutive<br />
> month, indicating business investment will pick up.</p>
<p>Except that new taxes and more printing of money and more borrowing will<br />
crush more private sector investment.</p>
<p>Redistribution takes the money from the private sector that earned it<br />
and the government redistributes it to people that will do nothing to<br />
earn it, they won&#8217;t invest it or hire a soul, they won&#8217;t spend it on<br />
making next quarters GDP grow either.</p>
<p>The downward spiral into the abyss continues under the Socialist plans<br />
to redistribute the wealth to those that don&#8217;t know how to use or create<br />
wealth.</p>
<p>Ever wonder why MOM AND POP Mini-Marts and grocery stores go out of<br />
business in poor neighborhoods?  They can&#8217;t withstand all the theft of<br />
their stock and when they lose too much stock to theft they have no<br />
money in the cash register to replace what was stolen and the quantity<br />
of stock on the shelves spirals downward until they have nothing left to<br />
sell.</p>
<p>Like the Socialists stealing from the GDP will continue to empty the<br />
shelves of jobs and investment that would normally grow the economy&#8230;.</p>
<p>The Socialists just use regulation and taxes and mandates, rather than<br />
hiding the beer under their coat.  But theft is still theft.</p>
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		<title>Harry Hopeless Not Likely to Post Latest New Unemployment Claims at 429,000&#8230;about Where they were 5 Months Ago!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/28/2011 9:03 AM, wolfagain wrote: > Looks like all those &#8220;Moving Right Along&#8221; comments about how the > &#8220;Obama Recovery&#8221; was &#8220;surely but slowly&#8221; getting steadily better by > H&#038;*$?%e were all just more LOON B.S.! In fact the numbers suggest > the Obama Economy is getting WORSE! Much worse! The only thing that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/28/2011 9:03 AM, wolfagain wrote:<br />
> Looks like all those &#8220;Moving Right Along&#8221; comments about how the<br />
> &#8220;Obama Recovery&#8221; was &#8220;surely but slowly&#8221; getting steadily better by<br />
> <acronym title="Harry Hope"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> H&*$?%e</span></acronym> were all just more LOON B.S.! In fact the numbers suggest<br />
> the Obama Economy is getting WORSE! Much worse! The only thing that is<br />
> actually &#8220;moving right along&#8221; is the 2012 Election&#8230;.and the End of<br />
> the Obama Nightmare!</p>
<p>It has all been getting worse, slowly but surely, and the high spots<br />
have all been lies. The stock market is a lie and is being propped up by<br />
Obama, he buys stock with printed money from the Federal Reserve, and<br />
borrowed money from China&#8230;..   That&#8217;s the kind of thing that created<br />
the 1929 crash in the stock market.</p>
<p>Banks are still failing and we still have 5 &#8211; 10 years of foreclosures<br />
to sell at the rate they are selling&#8230;..</p>
<p>GDP can&#8217;t grow if Obama is taking more of it and regulating our GDP away<br />
from the people that earned it.  It will shrink as the amount we have to<br />
reinvest in our private businesses is reduced.</p>
<p>Government and government intrusion into the private markets like the<br />
stock markets and the mortgage markets is the only thing growing.</p>
<p>The more government we have the worse things will get&#8230;. until enough<br />
people get it, we won&#8217;t be doing any better.  Sure the Government and<br />
the Liberal-Socialists will lie and cook the books to try to make it<br />
look like things are better or NOT so bad, but that is a short term<br />
false repair that will come back and bite us even harder.</p>
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		<title>Futile and Immoral</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/22/2011 4:19 PM, Cassandra wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 04:34:43 -0700 (PDT), RH > wrote: > >> Drug Control: Futile and Immoral >> Robert Henderson >> >> During the nineteenth century, the period of Britain=92s greatest power, >> comparative wealth and influence, drugs were freely available: at >> first hashish and opium [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/22/2011 4:19 PM, Cassandra wrote:<br />
> On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 04:34:43 -0700 (PDT), RH <anywhere156 @gmail.com><br />
> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> Drug Control: Futile and Immoral<br />
>> Robert Henderson<br />
>><br />
>> During the nineteenth century, the period of Britain=92s greatest power,<br />
>> comparative wealth and influence, drugs were freely available: at<br />
>> first hashish and opium in various forms, followed by cocaine,<br />
>> morphine and heroin in the latter part of the period.  Not only did<br />
>> the world not collapse and the country fall to ruin, Britain prospered<br />
>> greatly: GDP in 1900 was approximately ten times what it was in 1800,<br />
>> the population increased fourfold, social disorder decreased, the<br />
>> political franchise was considerably broadened, industrialisation<br />
>> proceeded apace and the Empire increased to become the only world<br />
>> empire ever worthy of the name.<br />
>><br />
>> Today we live in a country in which it is generally accepted that drug<br />
>> taking ranging from hashish to heroin is widespread despite drugs<br />
>> being illegal, expensive, difficult to obtain and of uncertain<br />
>> quality.  Yet even in these difficult financial times, Britain has the<br />
>> fifth or sixth  largest economy in the world, people are living ever<br />
>> longer and the general health and prosperity of the population is much<br />
>> improved and still improving and growing.  Drug taking now is self-<br />
>> evidently not going to bring society down or even seriously incommode<br />
>> it.<br />
>><br />
> Victorian London was of course a paradise where crime, drunkeness,<br />
> social unrest and child prostitution never happened.<br />
></p>
<p>And Prohibition in the USA decreased crime&#8230;..  NOT a chance.</p>
<p>At the end of Prohibition there were more bar-stools and more criminals<br />
in jails.</p>
<p></anywhere156></p>
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		<title>4/21/11</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/21/2011 7:19 AM, topcat wrote: > &#8220;TheLoneRanger100&#8243; wrote in message > news:f9ef771f-0ad3-4d77-94b0-3addbfd22929 @&#038;*$?%r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com&#8230; >> Yup&#8230;&#8230;..It&#8217;s 4/21/11, and after TWO YEARS President Chimpanzee has >> TOTALLY F&#038;*$?%D UP&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;There&#8217;s NO WAY around it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..The guy >> is an INCOMPETENT, ARROGANT, F&#038;*$?%K UP&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..The Country is an >> ABSOLUTE MESS, The Economy is an ABSOLUTE MESS, and the Democrats [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/21/2011 7:19 AM, topcat wrote:<br />
> &#8220;TheLoneRanger100&#8243; <magickneegro @aol.com> wrote in message<br />
> news:f9ef771f-0ad3-4d77-94b0-3addbfd22929<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>r19g2000prm.googlegroups.com&#8230;<br />
>> Yup&#8230;&#8230;..It&#8217;s 4/21/11, and after TWO YEARS President Chimpanzee has<br />
>> TOTALLY <acronym title="FUCKED"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> F&*$?%D</span></acronym> UP&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;There&#8217;s NO WAY around it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..The guy<br />
>> is an INCOMPETENT, ARROGANT, <acronym title="FUCK"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> F&*$?%K</span></acronym> UP&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..The Country is an<br />
>> ABSOLUTE MESS, The Economy is an ABSOLUTE MESS, and the Democrats<br />
>> have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to make the Situation Any<br />
>> Better&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Now the <acronym title="Bastard"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> B&*$?%d</span></acronym> is Starting Wars with Nations that<br />
>> Haven&#8217;t Threatened America&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Donchaknow&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..It&#8217;s<br />
>> Definitely &#8220;HOAX &#038;<br />
>> CHAINS&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..word!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
><br />
><br />
> BUT, BUT, Odumba is FIXING the econony&#8230;.he&#8217;s fixing it so that no one has<br />
> to work and everyone can just be on unemployment ENDLESSLY!!!<br />
><br />
> And if Congress would just let him tax the so-called &#8220;rich&#8221; even more, the<br />
> deficit would just *disappear*&#8230;.POOF!<br />
><br />
> TC</p>
<p>Your tax increase won&#8217;t increase money taken in by the Treasury&#8230;.  it<br />
will slow the economy causing a smaller GDP&#8230;.  and that will mean the<br />
Federal Treasury will take in less money.</p>
<p>Raise taxes and watch people have fewer jobs and less income to spend.</p>
<p></magickneegro></p>
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		<title>Soaking rich won&#8217;t erase deficit</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/15/2011 6:11 PM, masonc wrote: > On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:53:07 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis > wrote: > >> On Apr 15, 2:59 am, No Surren&#8230;@never.net wrote: >>> The problem, sir, is a simple one &#8212; that if we were to tax these individuals 100 percent of their income, we still could >>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/15/2011 6:11 PM, masonc wrote:<br />
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:53:07 -0700 (PDT), Gary Forbis<br />
> <forbisgaryg @msn.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On Apr 15, 2:59 am, No <a href="mailto:Surren...@never.net">Surren&#8230;@never.net</a> wrote:<br />
>>> The problem, sir, is a simple one &#8212; that if we were to tax these individuals 100 percent of their income, we still could<br />
>>> not cover our deficit this year alone.<br />
>><br />
>> That&#8217;s very simplistic.  Let&#8217;s begin to look closer.<br />
>> In the US today there are 400 individuals who have<br />
>> as much wealth as the bottom 150,000,000 people.<br />
><br />
> Can you give the source of this?  (not doubting, just curious)<br />
><br />
> However, there is a difference between &#8220;wealth&#8221; and &#8220;income.&#8221;<br />
><br />
> In 1968 *all* debts could have been paid from wealth, with the<br />
> wealthy retaining their position of high wealth. (fact &#8212; but I&#8217;m<br />
> not going to regurgitate the data now)<br />
><br />
> &#8211;<br />
> masonc<br />
></p>
<p>WEALTH IS NOT INCOME.</p>
<p>WE TAX INCOME</p>
<p>GDP-Gross Domestic Product is $14Trillion and the National debt is<br />
$14.4Trillion dollars.</p>
<p>The Treasury gets about 18% of the $14trillion GDP which is<br />
$2.5trillion&#8230;..  rough estimate.</p>
<p>If you tax 100% of GDP you will have NO jobs or cash to use for making<br />
next year more profitable. America will collapse.</p>
<p></forbisgaryg></p>
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		<title>Join the Christian Coalition&#8217;s Campaign to Stop Taxpayer Funding for Abortion</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/16/2011 9:29 AM, Horton wrote: > On Apr 14, 10:55 am, Deep Dudu wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:26:05 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude >> >> >> >> wrote: >>>> Deep Dudu wrote in talk.politics.guns : >> >>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:23:57 -0700 (PDT), Gary Gore >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> Conservative members [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/16/2011 9:29 AM, Horton wrote:<br />
> On Apr 14, 10:55 am, Deep Dudu wrote:<br />
>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:26:05 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> <klausschadenfre ...@yahoo.com> wrote:<br />
>>>> Deep Dudu wrote in talk.politics.guns :<br />
>><br />
>>>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:23:57 -0700 (PDT), Gary Gore<br />
>>>> <ghg ...@Bellsouth.net> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>> Conservative members of Congress have introduced legislation to end<br />
>>>>> ALL federal taxpayer funding of abortion &#8211; and they need our support!<br />
>><br />
>>>>> Take action today!  Sign the Christian Coalition&#8217;s petition, contact<br />
>>>>> Congress &#8211; and be sure to use our &#8220;Donate your status&#8221; application<br />
>>>>> below to help spread the word to others!<br />
>><br />
>>>>> Speak out today.  Tell Congress it&#8217;s time to get taxpayers OUT of the<br />
>>>>> abortion business!<br />
>><br />
>>>> Federal tax money is not used for abortions.<br />
>><br />
>>> If it&#8217;s given to Planned PArenthood, it&#8217;s used for abortion.<br />
>><br />
>> Only 3% of PP services are abortions.<br />
><br />
> Then why is it that all they talk about is aborting white babies and<br />
> stopping the procreation of non-whites?<br />
><br />
> If our children want to avoid pregnancy they should be like you and<br />
> never have pre-marital sex.<br />
><br />
> We need to give more money to the Christian churches of America, not<br />
> socialism.    Jesus is coming and he&#8217;s going to be very angry at the<br />
> Liberals.<br />
><br />
> The only way to save this country is to pay teachers $20,000 a year,<br />
> stop planned parenthood, defund PBS and NPR, triple military spending,</p>
<p>Everything but tripling military spending.</p>
<p>> cut taxes to the rich and make the middle class shoulder the tax<br />
> burden of big buisiness so that they don&#8217;t export our jobs to<br />
> China.<br />
Lets NOT raise taxes and then government Liberals won&#8217;t have the money<br />
to give to BIG BUSINESS.</p>
<p>>   Without the Bush tax cuts this country would be in a deep<br />
> recession and the jobless would be roaming the streets.</p>
<p>With higher taxes the economy/GDP will shrink.</p>
<p></ghg></klausschadenfre></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/14/2011 8:14 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote: > On Apr 14, 5:42 pm, Lamont Cranston > wrote: >> On 4/14/2011 11:05 AM, No Surren&#8230;@never.net wrote: >> >> Sure it will. > > it sure will. > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms Obama will have a +50% rise in debt/GDP]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/14/2011 8:14 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:<br />
> On Apr 14, 5:42 pm, Lamont Cranston <lamont .Crans...@FogYourMind.com><br />
> wrote:<br />
>> On 4/14/2011 11:05 AM, No <a href="mailto:Surren...@never.net">Surren&#8230;@never.net</a> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>> Sure it will.<br />
><br />
>  it sure will.<br />
><br />
><br />
> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms</a></p>
<p>Obama will have a +50% rise in debt/GDP</p>
<p></lamont></p>
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		<title>The Liberal fallacy&#8230;.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If raising taxes raised revenue then why have taxes been at 91% in the past and yet the revenue to the Treasury won&#8217;t increases above 19% of GDP. While taxes were lower, the revenue doesn&#8217;t drop below 14.4% so the idea that raising INCOME taxes on individuals will increase the revenue to the Treasury is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If raising taxes raised revenue then why have taxes been at 91% in the<br />
past and yet the revenue to the Treasury won&#8217;t increases above 19% of GDP.</p>
<p>While taxes were lower, the revenue doesn&#8217;t drop below 14.4% so the<br />
idea that raising INCOME taxes on individuals will increase the revenue<br />
to the Treasury is a false promise.</p>
<p>The most important thing is to get income into the Treasury to cover the<br />
money spent, and to cut the money spent to equal the money taken in by<br />
the Treasury.  At this moment in time we need to increase income to the<br />
Treasury and cut spending at the same time.</p>
<p>The way to do that is to cut government spending and regulations and cut<br />
or continue lower taxes to get the GDP to grow.  The Growing GDP will<br />
increase revenue to the Treasury.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the old idea that you&#8217;ll sell more apples for 25 cents and<br />
make more money than if you try to get $10,000.00 for one apple.</p>
<p>When taxes get high enough people stop working, it&#8217;s better to get 25%<br />
of their work rather than 91% of them sitting on their <acronym title="ass"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%s</span></acronym> doing nothing.</p>
<p><embed width='425' height='344' allowfullscreen='true' allowscriptaccess='always' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IUfo-RxkXA8&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1" /></p>
<p>I know because I cut my work to ZERO and that makes Obama&#8217;s Federal<br />
income tax from me to be zero.  I did it on purpose and I will continue<br />
to earn ZERO until Obama is gone.  GE made billions and used lawyers and<br />
lobbyists to allow GE to pay ZERO&#8230;..</p>
<p>When Taxes are at high numbers it becomes worth while to buy lawyers and<br />
lobbyists and accountants to get away from the high tax and if that<br />
doesn&#8217;t work then it pays to just stop earning money.</p>
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		<title>Chomsky Talks Fear in Western Society</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/13/2011 1:13 AM, Anonymous wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:10:12 +0200, nihil @&#038;*$?%none.com wrote: > >> The idea has some merit. If you are sick you go to the physician. If >> your car is broken you go to the mechanic. If you want to increase the >> wealth of a population [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/13/2011 1:13 AM, Anonymous wrote:<br />
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 21:10:12 +0200, <a href="mailto:nihil<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>none.com">nihil<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>none.com</a> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> The idea has some merit. If you are sick you go to the physician. If<br />
>> your car is broken you go to the mechanic. If you want to increase the<br />
>> wealth of a population then transfer wealth to those with a proven<br />
>> record of wealth creation.<br />
><br />
> It&#8217;s not about increasing the wealth of the population. It&#8217;s about<br />
> distributing wealth. The top few percent already own over 90% of the<br />
> county&#8217;s wealth and I can&#8217;t see how giving them more is helpful to anyone<br />
> but themselves.<br />
></p>
<p>you take the short view&#8230;..    redistribution is going to destroy<br />
wealth creation and the &#8220;real GDP&#8221; won&#8217;t grow and our National wealth<br />
won&#8217;t grow.  If you notice, in a health capitalist economy, the rich get<br />
richer and the poor all have toilet paper and big FLAT SCREEN TV&#8217;s which<br />
is more than they have in CUBA.</p>
<p>That will mean the poor will get a short term bump in their personal<br />
wealth while the Nation takes along term loss of wealth.</p>
<p>Socialists redistribution is a short term feel good ploy to buy short<br />
term support to win elections and power.  Even the Socialists know that<br />
they will in the long term redistribute and concentrate all the money<br />
into the hands of the politically ELITE SOCIALISTS.</p>
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		<title>The Liberal fallacy&#8230;.</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If raising taxes raised revenue then why have taxes been at 91% in the past and yet the revenue to the Treasury won&#8217;t increases above 19% of GDP. While taxes were lower, the revenue doesn&#8217;t drop below 14.4% so the idea that raising INCOME taxes on individuals will increase the revenue to the Treasury is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If raising taxes raised revenue then why have taxes been at 91% in the<br />
past and yet the revenue to the Treasury won&#8217;t increases above 19% of GDP.</p>
<p>While taxes were lower, the revenue doesn&#8217;t drop below 14.4% so the<br />
idea that raising INCOME taxes on individuals will increase the revenue<br />
to the Treasury is a false promise.</p>
<p>The most important thing is to get income into the Treasury to cover the<br />
money spent, and to cut the money spent to equal the money taken in by<br />
the Treasury.  At this moment in time we need to increase income to the<br />
Treasury and cut spending at the same time.</p>
<p>The way to do that is to cut government spending and regulations and cut<br />
or continue lower taxes to get the GDP to grow.  The Growing GDP will<br />
increase revenue to the Treasury.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the old idea that you&#8217;ll sell more apples for 25 cents and<br />
make more money than if you try to get $10,000.00 for one apple.</p>
<p>When taxes get high enough people stop working, it&#8217;s better to get 25%<br />
of their work rather than 91% of them sitting on their <acronym title="ass"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%s</span></acronym> doing nothing.</p>
<p>I know because I cut my work to ZERO and that makes Obama&#8217;s Federal<br />
income tax from me to be zero.  I did it on purpose and I will continue<br />
to earn ZERO until Obama is gone.  GE made billions and used lawyers and<br />
lobbyists to allow GE to pay ZERO&#8230;..</p>
<p>When Taxes are at high numbers it becomes worth while to buy lawyers and<br />
lobbyists and accountants to get away from the high tax and if that<br />
doesn&#8217;t work then it pays to just stop earning money.</p>
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		<title>The Liberal fallacy&#8230;.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[If raising taxes raised revenue then why have taxes been at 91% in the past and yet the revenue to the Treasury won&#8217;t increases above 19% of GDP. While taxes were lower, the revenue doesn&#8217;t drop below 14.4% so the idea that raising INCOME taxes on individuals will increase the revenue to the Treasury is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If raising taxes raised revenue then why have taxes been at 91% in the<br />
past and yet the revenue to the Treasury won&#8217;t increases above 19% of GDP.</p>
<p>While taxes were lower, the revenue doesn&#8217;t drop below 14.4% so the<br />
idea that raising INCOME taxes on individuals will increase the revenue<br />
to the Treasury is a false promise.</p>
<p>The most important thing is to get income into the Treasury to cover the<br />
money spent, and to cut the money spent to equal the money taken in by<br />
the Treasury.  At this moment in time we need to increase income to the<br />
Treasury and cut spending at the same time.</p>
<p>The way to do that is to cut government spending and regulations and cut<br />
or continue lower taxes to get the GDP to grow.  The Growing GDP will<br />
increase revenue to the Treasury.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the old idea that you&#8217;ll sell more apples for 25 cents and<br />
make more money than if you try to get $10,000.00 for one apple.</p>
<p>When taxes get high enough people stop working, it&#8217;s better to get 25%<br />
of their work rather than 91% of them sitting on their <acronym title="ass"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%s</span></acronym> doing nothing.</p>
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		<title>IMF sees dire future for US</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/6/2011 9:17 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote: > On 4/5/2011 11:16 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote: >> On 4/5/2011 9:46 PM, ray wrote: >>> In article, >>> Lamont Cranston wrote: >>> >>>>>> That is exactly what the CEOs say: don&#8217;t touch my bonus it costs only >>>>>> 2 years of health coverage for all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/6/2011 9:17 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote:<br />
> On 4/5/2011 11:16 PM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>> On 4/5/2011 9:46 PM, ray wrote:<br />
>>> In article<ingfg9 $krl$3<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>news.datemas.de>,<br />
>>>   Lamont Cranston<lamont .Cranston<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>FogYourMind.com>  wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>> That is exactly what the CEOs say: don&#8217;t touch my bonus it costs only<br />
>>>>>> 2 years of health coverage for all my unimportant lazy employees. And<br />
>>>>>> besides it comes from the bail out money, which are the tax dollars -<br />
>>>>>> you don&#8217;t want this bizarre taxation of taxation. And I work so hard<br />
>>>>>> outsourcing all I could from the country. No, no, I earn this bonus -<br />
>>>>>> I am a top talent.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Well just keep on taxing.  We&#8217;ve seen how well it&#8217;s worked out in the<br />
>>>>> past.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> The periods of greatest economic expansion have occurred during the<br />
>>>> periods of greatest taxation, Ray-ray.  Why are conservatives so<br />
>>>> <acronym title="fucking"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> f&*$?%g</span></acronym><br />
>>>> stupid?<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Government growth isn&#8217;t really growth&#8230;.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> The greatest drop in Government tax receipts is when you have the<br />
>> greatest taxation.<br />
><br />
> Actually, just the opposite is true, you ignorant troll.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/Images/current-tax-receipts-600.jpg" >http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/Images/current-tax-receipts-600.jpg</a></p>
<p>The problem is that to even get the optimistic projection below, you<br />
have to get a growing GDP in a market where &#8220;taxes and spending&#8221; are<br />
going up. Taxes and government spending don&#8217;t stimulate the economy they<br />
depress it.  So the below graph is likely to look much worse in reality.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/Images/repealing-tax-cuts-600.jpg" >http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/Images/repealing-tax-cuts-600.jpg</a></p>
<p>Increasing the taxes to 91%(again) will only gain 1.4% of GDP as tax<br />
receipts to the Treasury.  The GDP is $14Trillion and 1.4% of 14trillion<br />
means that raising taxes to 91% gets you an additional 200 billion.<br />
Which is a drop in the bucket.</p>
<p>The way to increase tax receipts to the Treasury is to increase GDP so<br />
that, that somewhat constant 18.2% of GDP over 30 years that is taken in<br />
by the Treasury as tax is increased since the pie that you are taking<br />
the 18.2% from (The GDP) is getting larger.</p>
<p>What is best for the government&#8217;s Treasury is that the &#8220;real GDP&#8221; grows<br />
and growing GDP creates wealth and the new wealth is then taxed at the<br />
same old 18.2% rate that we seem to get whether individual rates are 91%<br />
or 35%.</p>
<p>The problem is that Liberals think that they can lie to everyone and<br />
cook the books so that it looks like GDP is growing, Liberals do that by<br />
adding government printed money into the GDP and calling that wealth<br />
creation and ultimately calling it GDP.  They then spend the taxes that<br />
they get from their &#8220;funny money&#8221;  and after a while the scheme falls<br />
apart and the &#8220;funny money&#8221; bubble bursts.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Liberal-Socialism is never going to work.  You&#8217;re too stupid<br />
to understand why your plan destroys its self. Raising taxes will lead<br />
to lower GDP and ultimately lower taxes to the treasury to support your<br />
ever growing government.</p>
<p></lamont></ingfg9></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/5/2011 9:46 PM, ray wrote: > In article , > Lamont Cranston wrote: > >>>> That is exactly what the CEOs say: don&#8217;t touch my bonus it costs only >>>> 2 years of health coverage for all my unimportant lazy employees. And >>>> besides it comes from the bail out money, which are the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/5/2011 9:46 PM, ray wrote:<br />
> In article <ingfg9 $krl$3<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>news.datemas.de>,<br />
>  Lamont Cranston <lamont .Cranston<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>FogYourMind.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>>>> That is exactly what the CEOs say: don&#8217;t touch my bonus it costs only<br />
>>>> 2 years of health coverage for all my unimportant lazy employees. And<br />
>>>> besides it comes from the bail out money, which are the tax dollars -<br />
>>>> you don&#8217;t want this bizarre taxation of taxation. And I work so hard<br />
>>>> outsourcing all I could from the country. No, no, I earn this bonus -<br />
>>>> I am a top talent.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Well just keep on taxing.  We&#8217;ve seen how well it&#8217;s worked out in the<br />
>>> past.<br />
>><br />
>> The periods of greatest economic expansion have occurred during the<br />
>> periods of greatest taxation, Ray-ray.  Why are conservatives so <acronym title="fucking"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> f&*$?%g</span></acronym><br />
>> stupid?</p>
<p>Government growth isn&#8217;t really economic growth&#8230;.</p>
<p>The greatest drop in Government tax receipts is when you have the<br />
greatest taxation.</p>
<p>Past taxation shows that *the government Treasury* takes in less when<br />
taxes go up and in fact they NEVER take in less than 14% of GDP&#8230;.</p>
<p>When taxes are dropped *the government Treasury* takes in more tax<br />
receipts but never above 19% of GDP.</p>
<p>SO what ever you set Federal income tax at, the likely outcome will be<br />
the economy will speed up or slow down but tax receipts will move in the<br />
opposite direction of the actual taxes and will always remain within<br />
that 14%-19% of GDP window.</p>
<p>It would then be better to have an economy that&#8217;s humming along with<br />
modest taxes and a descent GDP so that the Treasury will take in 14% to<br />
19% of the GDP that has a positive and growing line on the chart for<br />
GDP.  Since 14% of a growing GDP is more than 14% of a stagnant GDP and<br />
Growing government stifling the private sector is the way to achieve a<br />
stifled GDP, the best thing for the GDP is what is best for the<br />
Government.  The problem today is that Government is LYING to us and to<br />
it&#8217;s self saying that more government will mean more GDP.(self preservation)</p>
<p>The problem arises when *GREEDY LIBERALS* want to take more from the<br />
people and give it to themselves via government. That&#8217;s when you hit the<br />
wall and you try taxing more and more and regulate and more and all it<br />
does is choke off the growing GDP and then you get less taxes realized<br />
in receipts coming into the TREASURY.  Economics is saying that<br />
government is like a parasite, it is growing exponentially and killing<br />
the host.  The only way to survive is to stop the growth of the<br />
parasitic government and keep it in remission to keep the economy alive.<br />
Regulating Government is more important than regulating the free markets.</p>
<p>It would seem the sweet spot is ~18% of GDP or there about and to get<br />
there you need to regulate government spending(the size of government),<br />
that will allow you to regulate taxes and grow the GDP which will<br />
increase the Treasury&#8217;s receipts from income tax.  The number that we<br />
need to track and follow is Gross Domestic Product.  That number should<br />
automatically move the tax rate up when we hit 18% of GDP(to slow the<br />
economy) for tax receipts and down when the Treasury is taking in only<br />
15% of GDP(to speed up the economy) as tax receipts.</p>
<p>Stable modest taxes will create the best outcome and REGULATED<br />
government gets us to modest taxes.  Someone once said &#8220;Government that<br />
rules the least, rules the best&#8221;</p>
<p></lamont></ingfg9></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/4/2011 6:42 PM, Voltaire wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:24:43 -0500, &#8220;Eddie Haskell&#8221; > wrote: > >> >> &#8220;Voltaire&#8221; wrote in message >> news:0hgkp690n22c8cg4av575pin71lauikntj @&#038;*$?%4ax.com&#8230; >>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:53:20 -0500, &#8220;Eddie Haskell&#8221; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> &#8220;ByeStander&#8221; wrote in message >>>> news:cafip6l3i4htaiv65lqgbvl9nuuo1je2kf @&#038;*$?%4ax.com&#8230; >>>>> On Sun, 3 Apr [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/4/2011 6:42 PM, Voltaire wrote:<br />
> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:24:43 -0500, &#8220;Eddie Haskell&#8221; <jjjh @mkkg.com><br />
> wrote:<br />
><br />
>><br />
>> &#8220;Voltaire&#8221; <voltaire @Spamex.com> wrote in message<br />
>> news:0hgkp690n22c8cg4av575pin71lauikntj<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com&#8230;<br />
>>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 15:53:20 -0500, &#8220;Eddie Haskell&#8221; <jjjh @mkkg.com><br />
>>> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>><br />
>>>> &#8220;ByeStander&#8221; <byestander @home.com> wrote in message<br />
>>>> news:cafip6l3i4htaiv65lqgbvl9nuuo1je2kf<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com&#8230;<br />
>>>>> On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 00:46:36 -0700 (PDT), Dänk 666<br />
>>>>> <dank420 @rocketmail.com> wrote:<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 12:57 am, ByeStander <byestan ...@home.com> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> Does Harry Reid know how many fingers on his hands to hold up to make<br />
>>>>>>> a &#8220;trillion&#8221; ?<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> Without siding with the criminal Republicans, I&#8217;ve noticed that<br />
>>>>>> leftarded Democraps are quick to denounce all budget cuts suggested by<br />
>>>>>> Republicans, without suggesting any alternative cuts of their own.  In<br />
>>>>>> just the last week alone, I&#8217;ve read of complaints ranging from cutting<br />
>>>>>> USAID in Africa to cutting cowboy poetry in Nevada.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> Federal revenues total five trillion, yet the federal budget calls for<br />
>>>>>> ten trillion in spending.  Even a first-grader realizes that the two<br />
>>>>>> numbers do not add up.  Either revenues must be increases &#8212; difficult<br />
>>>>>> if not impossible during a major recession &#8212; or spending must be cut,<br />
>>>>>> which is impossible since people riot when their free crack money is<br />
>>>>>> taken away.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> The obvious solution is currency devaluation.  Print new dollars to<br />
>>>>>> cover the budget deficit: taxes remain the same, spending increases,<br />
>>>>>> and everyone (except bankers) is happy.  Free money for everyone, and<br />
>>>>>> when hyperinflation ensues, the greedy merchants can be imprisoned for<br />
>>>>>> raising prices.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Currency devaluation is, in effect, a hidden tax on the poor.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Obama, Geithner, &#038; Bernanke is making the poor, poorer, faster than<br />
>>>>> any other team since Jimmy Carter.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Yeah, but he&#8217;s making the rich poorer too so it&#8217;s okay.<br />
>>>><br />
>>> You can&#8217;t be this stupid.<br />
>><br />
>> Dan Rather didn&#8217;t tell you that inflation is raging?<br />
>><br />
>> Damn moron.<br />
>><br />
>  see, there you go again falling apart all over yourself. What is the<br />
> inflation rate? Why do you run and hide while trying to change the<br />
> topic?</p>
<p>Inflation does NOT include food and energy so the numbers are skewed.<br />
The inflation is much higher than the government admits.</p>
<p>unemployment is also skewed, 34% of all the people in the USA are too<br />
young or too old to work&#8230;.  then there are 9% out of work from<br />
economics reasons, that&#8217;s 43% of America that isn&#8217;t working! 8% of<br />
America are illegal aliens that work off the books or not at all, that&#8217;s<br />
51% of Americans that don&#8217;t get out of a bed and go to a job.</p>
<p>We have 49% or about 150,000,000 that may actually be working in America.</p>
<p>Something tells me that even the numbers I found are no reporting the<br />
truth and there are still more that are NOT working.</p>
<p>You need to add in the government workers to the unemployed or the<br />
imaginary employed since they don&#8217;t add to the GDP but rather suck money<br />
out of the investment in business&#8217; which creates a downward spiral of<br />
Gross Domestic Products.</p>
<p>If people have jobs that don&#8217;t produce or do anything or accomplish<br />
anything, like government&#8230;  we shouldn&#8217;t count them as actually<br />
working and producing GDP.</p>
<p></byestan></dank420></byestander></jjjh></voltaire></jjjh></p>
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		<title>Gasoline up 100% under Obama</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/3/2011 7:51 PM, RichTravsky wrote: > CB wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:33:50 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty >> wrote: >>> On 4/2/2011 3:46 PM, CB wrote: >>>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:29:27 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 4/2/2011 6:44 AM, CB wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 02 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/3/2011 7:51 PM, RichTravsky wrote:<br />
> CB wrote:<br />
>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:33:50 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
>>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:<br />
>>> On 4/2/2011 3:46 PM, CB wrote:<br />
>>>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:29:27 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
>>>> </then>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:<br />
>>>>> On 4/2/2011 6:44 AM, CB wrote:<br />
>>>>>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:13:46 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
>>>>>> </then>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> On 4/1/2011 8:38 PM, Larry Hewitt wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>> On 4/1/2011 6:12 PM, CB wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:27:31 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
>>>>>>>>> </then>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/1/2011 12:53 AM, Foo Fighter wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> In article<in3984 $846$5<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>news.datemas.de>,<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>   Lamont Cranston<lamont .Cranston<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>FogYourMind.com>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/31/2011 5:40 PM, Kulin Remailer wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gasoline up 100% under Obama<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> &#8220;You lie!&#8221;  It&#8217;s less than what it was under &#8220;Da Bush.&#8221;<br />
>>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> Well. it&#8217;s a great tool to get people to conserve. I say $5 should<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> really motivate us. Saves the Earth!<br />
>>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> It will also make you thin as you can&#8217;t afford to eat two BIG MAC&#8217;s for<br />
>>>>>>>>>> lunch, and it will stop those Obese kids from packing down to much<br />
>>>>>>>>>> unhealthy foods.<br />
>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> The poor eat more rice, beans, cereal, Monsanto corn® and potatoes<br />
>>>>>>>>> when things get tough, not salads<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> wrong again, failed Xian racist pig thief.<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> Corn and cereal are getting to be too expensive.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>> Steak is more&#8230;.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> We haven&#8217;t eaten a steak in over a year!<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> We used to eat Delmonico (rib eye) steak every weekend but not no moe<br />
>>>>>> thanks to Ben Bernanke (the Fed), quantitative easing and the moronic<br />
>>>>>> idea of flooding the economy with printed/electronic money.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> mmm&#8230;mmm&#8230;mmm&#8230;oh for the days of Bush<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> And Obama borrowing trillions of dollars that you will have to pay back<br />
>>>>> at some point.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> It&#8217;s like Obama is as broke as you, but he refuses to stop buying steak<br />
>>>>> and ice cream.  At some point your credit card will be asking for their<br />
>>>>> payment and you&#8217;ll have run it up with no money left to pay it.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> I&#8217;d love to put a CORE M4 Carbine<br />
>>>> (http://www.core15rifles.com/index.php)<br />
>>>> on the credit card but I know with interest it&#8217;ll cost me ever so much<br />
>>>> moe.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> They&#8217;re made in Ocala, Florida and sold through Shoot Straight. I may<br />
>>>> go to the Orlange County Gun Show on the 14th and 15th. I may find a<br />
>>>> used one for cash.<br />
>>><br />
>>> A common theme in Liberalism is that they have NO self control.<br />
>>><br />
>>> That&#8217;s why &#8220;you can wait to pay for your goodies&#8221; and the Liberals like<br />
>>> OzBama want the goodies and want it now and can&#8217;t grasp the concept of<br />
>>> waiting until they have the ability to get things without debt.<br />
>>><br />
>>> <a href="http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/current-tax-receipts" >http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/current-tax-receipts</a><br />
>>> <a href="http://visualizingeconomics.com/" >http://visualizingeconomics.com/</a><br />
>>><br />
>>> The 30 year average says that the USA takes in 18.2% of GDP and no<br />
>>> matter the income tax being 28% or 98% tax receipts to the TREASURY<br />
>>> seems to live between 15% to 20% of GDP so raising rates by 70% will<br />
>>> gain nothing and likely just slow the economy enough to lower tax receipts.<br />
>>><br />
>>> Looking at 1945-1954 which were the years of highest income tax rates we<br />
>>> see the percent of GDP was down as low as 14.4% which makes it look like<br />
>>> high tax rates don&#8217;t produce high tax receipts for the TREASURY.<br />
>>><br />
>>> On the other hand if you look at low economic times, they correlate with<br />
>>> low tax receipts taken in by the TREASURY. SO the best way to increase<br />
>>> income to the TREASURY and to have money for government to spend is to<br />
>>> keep taxes at the lowest amount possible&#8230; without crashing the system.<br />
>>> But the Liberals greed prevents them from understanding or implementing<br />
>>> what graphs show to be the truth.<br />
>>><br />
>>> The problem isn&#8217;t taxing more, that just won&#8217;t happen because a high tax<br />
>>> is anti income to Treasury.  SO it has to be controlling the Liberals<br />
>>> insatiable urge to waste money that they don&#8217;t have.<br />
>><br />
>> Very true<br />
>><br />
>> Lowering tax rates creates an environment in which business owners<br />
>> plan, expand, order, resulting in increased economic activity.<br />
>><br />
>> Libs will never get it because of their greed for other peoples money.<br />
><br />
> So, the Bush Tax Cuts failed.<br />
><br />
> RT</p>
<p>What failed was Progressives plans to redistribute &#8220;RISK&#8221; and the whole<br />
housing market collapsed thanks to their plans that were implemented by<br />
coercion of government agencies like Fannie Mae and Freddi Mac.</p>
<p><a href="http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/212/126/" >http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/212/126/</a><br />
time stamp 5:00</p>
<p></lamont></in3984></then>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/2/2011 3:46 PM, CB wrote: > On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:29:27 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty > wrote: > >> On 4/2/2011 6:44 AM, CB wrote: >>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:13:46 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/1/2011 8:38 PM, Larry Hewitt wrote: >>>>> On 4/1/2011 6:12 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/2/2011 3:46 PM, CB wrote:<br />
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 11:29:27 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On 4/2/2011 6:44 AM, CB wrote:<br />
>>> On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 03:13:46 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
>>> </then>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>> On 4/1/2011 8:38 PM, Larry Hewitt wrote:<br />
>>>>> On 4/1/2011 6:12 PM, CB wrote:<br />
>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 10:27:31 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
>>>>>> </then>
<then -Destroy-Everything<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>> On 4/1/2011 12:53 AM, Foo Fighter wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>> In article<in3984 $846$5<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>news.datemas.de>,<br />
>>>>>>>>   Lamont Cranston<lamont .Cranston<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>FogYourMind.com>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> On 3/31/2011 5:40 PM, Kulin Remailer wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>> Gasoline up 100% under Obama<br />
>>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> &#8220;You lie!&#8221;  It&#8217;s less than what it was under &#8220;Da Bush.&#8221;<br />
>>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> Well. it&#8217;s a great tool to get people to conserve. I say $5 should<br />
>>>>>>>> really motivate us. Saves the Earth!<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>> It will also make you thin as you can&#8217;t afford to eat two BIG MAC&#8217;s for<br />
>>>>>>> lunch, and it will stop those Obese kids from packing down to much<br />
>>>>>>> unhealthy foods.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> The poor eat more rice, beans, cereal, Monsanto corn® and potatoes<br />
>>>>>> when things get tough, not salads<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> wrong again, failed Xian racist pig thief.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Corn and cereal are getting to be too expensive.<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> Steak is more&#8230;.<br />
>>><br />
>>> We haven&#8217;t eaten a steak in over a year!<br />
>>><br />
>>> We used to eat Delmonico (rib eye) steak every weekend but not no moe<br />
>>> thanks to Ben Bernanke (the Fed), quantitative easing and the moronic<br />
>>> idea of flooding the economy with printed/electronic money.<br />
>>><br />
>>> mmm&#8230;mmm&#8230;mmm&#8230;oh for the days of Bush<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> And Obama borrowing trillions of dollars that you will have to pay back<br />
>> at some point.<br />
>><br />
>> It&#8217;s like Obama is as broke as you, but he refuses to stop buying steak<br />
>> and ice cream.  At some point your credit card will be asking for their<br />
>> payment and you&#8217;ll have run it up with no money left to pay it.<br />
><br />
> I&#8217;d love to put a CORE M4 Carbine<br />
> (http://www.core15rifles.com/index.php)<br />
> on the credit card but I know with interest it&#8217;ll cost me ever so much<br />
> moe.<br />
><br />
> They&#8217;re made in Ocala, Florida and sold through Shoot Straight. I may<br />
> go to the Orlange County Gun Show on the 14th and 15th. I may find a<br />
> used one for cash.</p>
<p>A common theme in Liberalism is that they have NO self control.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why &#8220;you can wait to pay for your goodies&#8221; and the Liberals like<br />
OzBama want the goodies and want it now and can&#8217;t grasp the concept of<br />
waiting until they have the ability to get things without debt.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/current-tax-receipts" >http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/current-tax-receipts</a><br />
<a href="http://visualizingeconomics.com/" >http://visualizingeconomics.com/</a></p>
<p>The 30 year average says that the USA takes in 18.2% of GDP and no<br />
matter the income tax being 28% or 98% tax receipts to the TREASURY<br />
seems to live between 15% to 20% of GDP so raising rates by 70% will<br />
gain nothing and likely just slow the economy enough to lower tax receipts.</p>
<p>Looking at 1945-1954 which were the years of highest income tax rates we<br />
see the percent of GDP was down as low as 14.4% which makes it look like<br />
high tax rates don&#8217;t produce high tax receipts for the TREASURY.</p>
<p>On the other hand if you look at low economic times, they correlate with<br />
low tax receipts taken in by the TREASURY. SO the best way to increase<br />
income to the TREASURY and to have money for government to spend is to<br />
keep taxes at the lowest amount possible&#8230; without crashing the system.<br />
But the Liberals greed prevents them from understanding or implementing<br />
what graphs show to be the truth.</p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t taxing more, that just won&#8217;t happen because a high tax<br />
is anti income to Treasury.  SO it has to be controlling the Liberals<br />
insatiable urge to waste money that they don&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 3/26/2011 4:28 PM, Sid9 wrote: > > &#8220;wy&#8221; wrote in message > news:05c332bb-4f94-4a6c-bec0-af6ceb3e2b62 @&#038;*$?%o30g2000pra.googlegroups.com&#8230; >> On Mar 26, 4:04 pm, John Smith wrote: >>> On 3/26/2011 12:47 PM, Sid9 wrote: >>> >>> > &#8230; >>> > Who are going to shoot? >>> > The debt is owned primarily by Americans. >>> >>> > What [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 3/26/2011 4:28 PM, Sid9 wrote:<br />
><br />
> &#8220;wy&#8221; <wy_ @myself.com> wrote in message<br />
> news:05c332bb-4f94-4a6c-bec0-af6ceb3e2b62<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>o30g2000pra.googlegroups.com&#8230;<br />
>> On Mar 26, 4:04 pm, John Smith <assemblywiz ...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>>> On 3/26/2011 12:47 PM, Sid9 wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>> > &#8230;<br />
>>> > Who are going to shoot?<br />
>>> > The debt is owned primarily by Americans.<br />
>>><br />
>>> > What a dumbass na ve idea!<br />
>>><br />
>>> > You have proved that you belong in the Bozo Bin!<br />
>>><br />
>>> Actually, the debt is owed by banksters and the fed who have printed<br />
>>> money on promises to deliver something of value at a later date, knowing<br />
>>> full well this would never happen.<br />
>>><br />
>>> I really don&#8217;t owe any portion of the $45,000 they have me listed for,<br />
>>> neither do any of my children, or their young children!<br />
>><br />
>> Yet you have accepted all the services like rebuilding infrastructure,<br />
>> defense, whatever government programs you may&#8217;ve taken advantage of<br />
>> either knowingly or unknowingly and, of course, social security and<br />
>> medicare and medicaid should you get there if you haven&#8217;t already.<br />
>> Nothing&#8217;s free in the land of the free.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>><br />
>>> I say, &#8220;Let&#8217;s pay our debt in bullets!&#8221;<br />
>><br />
>> Bullets only go so far, then you&#8217;re out of them, and with no money to<br />
>> pay for more, America gets to be out of luck.<br />
>><br />
>>><br />
>>> And, as to your question, &#8220;Who are [you] going to shoot?&#8221;  I&#8217;d reply,<br />
>>> &#8220;Anyone coming to collect on the fictitious debt!&#8221;<br />
>><br />
>> Good luck if you think you can hold up against some bazookas or even<br />
>> be functional after a dozen tear gas grenades have been thrown through<br />
>> your windows.<br />
>><br />
>> It&#8217;s your simplistic nonsense that&#8217;ll only end up seeing you dead<br />
>> before your time.  Which wouldn&#8217;t be a bad thing.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
><br />
> The solution is simple&#8230;.but no one will face it.<br />
><br />
> 1. A wealth tax<br />
> 2. A truly progressive income tax<br />
><br />
> In other words tax where the money is.<br />
></p>
<p>Just where is the money, is it in the IQ or in the education or the<br />
buildings or the Song lyrics?   Some people have an education that has<br />
&#8220;value&#8221;  how will you tax that?   Some people have a talent that is of<br />
value, how will you tax that when they choose to not create a lyric?  Or<br />
they create a Lyric and sing it for a meal or a woman that has a talent<br />
for sex that rides in fine cars and eats fine foods, how will you tax<br />
that asset? If you tax a car or a house or gold or cash as an<br />
asset(money)  how will you be equal and tax these other assets that<br />
can&#8217;t be confiscated?   Why tax only some people and NOT others?</p>
<p>Your system lacks the &#8220;FAIR&#8221; part of what you are trying to achieve.<br />
These people with intangible assets from God can&#8217;t be taxed on their wealth.</p>
<p>> No use taxing poor people who have little money&#8230;they spend it all<br />
> anyway contributing to the GDP<br />
> Rich people do not.<br />
></p>
<p>Explain where the rich hide money so that it contributes zero to GDP.</p>
<p>It is Government and government employees that add zero to GDP,  they<br />
consume GDP.</p>
<p>> It&#8217;s time to pay the piper for the excesses that started with Republican<br />
> St Reagan, continued under HW Bush, and nearly finished us off with the<br />
> incompetent bush,jr.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to get rid of the Progressives yoke of oppression on the<br />
capitalist markets and the people and go back to creating wealth.</p>
<p></assemblywiz></wy_></p>
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		<title>30 years the rich have gotten their way in everything and the public is figuring all of this out:What we&#8217;re seeing is the top 1% is winning in international markets/winning in the bailouts/winning in government favors /winning in tax cuts</title>
		<link>http://outsourcenews.net/ng/2011/03/18/30-years-the-rich-have-gotten-their-way-in-everything-and-the-public-is-figuring-all-of-this-outwhat-were-seeing-is-the-top-1-is-winning-in-international-marketswinning-in-the-bailoutswinning-in-g-4/</link>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 3/18/2011 11:17 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote: > On Mar 18, 1:31 am, Larry Hewitt wrote: >> On 3/18/2011 2:19 AM, ByeStander wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:37:10 -0400, Larry Hewitt >>> wrote: >> >>>> On 3/17/2011 1:34 AM, ByeStander wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT), [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 3/18/2011 11:17 AM, Nickname unavailable wrote:<br />
> On Mar 18, 1:31 am, Larry Hewitt <larryh ...@comporium.net> wrote:<br />
>> On 3/18/2011 2:19 AM, ByeStander wrote:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>> On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 00:37:10 -0400, Larry Hewitt<br />
>>> </larryh><larryh ...@comporium.net>  wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>> On 3/17/2011 1:34 AM, ByeStander wrote:<br />
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT), Nickname unavailable<br />
>>>>> <vide ...@tcq.net>   wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> 30 years the rich have gotten their way in everything and the public<br />
>>>>>> is figuring all of this out:What we&#8217;re seeing is the top 1% is winning<br />
>>>>>> in international markets/winning in the bailouts/winning in government<br />
>>>>>> favors /winning in tax cuts/It&#8217;s win-win-win<br />
>><br />
>>>>> Do you think, as Obama&#8217;s father proposed, that the rich should be<br />
>>>>> taxed at 100% ?<br />
>><br />
>>>> Nah, let then keep something.<br />
>><br />
>>>> 98% is high enough.<br />
>><br />
>>> Gosh, the Repubs just seem so stupid, heh?  They don&#8217;t realize the<br />
>>> Utopia that could be had by all if they just agreed to tax the rich.</p>
<p>If they taxed the rich and took 99% or 100% of all money earned over<br />
$1Million dollars then people/corporations would quit earning when they<br />
hit $1Million, then send all non essential employees on a vacation. That<br />
would limit the GDP to less than $300Million dollars since there are<br />
only 300 million people and or businesses in the Nation.</p>
<p>How many dollars could unions steal from taxpayers then?</p>
<p>The Socialists would cut their own throats?</p>
<p></vide></larryh></p>
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		<title>Republican Arizona Is No. 2 In Poverty And A Gun Infested, Crime Ridden Shit Hole Full Of Right Wing White Trash &#8211; Is This The Future Of America Under The Republican Fascists?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 1/23/2011 7:20 PM, J&#038;*$?%a wrote: > http://www.frp.no/The+Norwegian+energy+sector+needs+clarity.d25-TwZrG0Q.ips > > by the way, not 100% of Norway&#8217;s energy industry is controlled by the > government. > > &#8220;Ranger&#8221; wrote in message > news:f60c6157-fec9-41c7-9ad6-96f9a508d45c @&#038;*$?%j7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com&#8230; > > On Jan 22, 9:12 pm, Ranger wrote: >> On Jan 22, 9:09 pm, Ranger wrote: >> >> >> >> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 1/23/2011 7:20 PM, <acronym title="Jerry Okamura"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> J&*$?%a</span></acronym> wrote:<br />
> <a href="http://www.frp.no/The+Norwegian+energy+sector+needs+clarity.d25-TwZrG0Q.ips" >http://www.frp.no/The+Norwegian+energy+sector+needs+clarity.d25-TwZrG0Q.ips</a><br />
><br />
> by the way, not 100% of Norway&#8217;s energy industry is controlled by the<br />
> government.<br />
><br />
> &#8220;Ranger&#8221;  wrote in message<br />
> news:f60c6157-fec9-41c7-9ad6-96f9a508d45c<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>j7g2000vbb.googlegroups.com&#8230;<br />
><br />
> On Jan 22, 9:12 pm, Ranger <andrewrange ...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>> On Jan 22, 9:09 pm, Ranger </andrewrange><andrewrange ...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> > On Jan 22, 8:31 pm, Nickname unavailable <vide ...@tcq.net> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>> > > On Jan 22, 9:55 am, Republicans Hate America <clayno ...@rogers.com><br />
>> > > wrote:<br />
>><br />
>> > > In Norway Start-ups Say Ja to Socialism:Norway has more entrepreneurs<br />
>> > > per capita than the United States:there is no statistical evidence to<br />
>> > > prove that low taxes result in economic prosperity:)low tax rat holes<br />
>> > > like texas/estonia are floundering in debt and unemployment<br />
>><br />
>> > Norway enjoys one of the top 3 health care systems in the world, but<br />
>> > still requires a minimum (income tested) payment for health care to<br />
>> > keep people from abusing the system.   It maxes out at $1500 a year<br />
>> > for even the richest.    My friend is a physician outside of Oslo and<br />
>> > makes far less than his colleagues in Canada or the US, taxes are<br />
>> > higher but there are few who complain about the &#8220;cradle to grave&#8221;<br />
>> > social safety net there.<br />
>><br />
>> > However, Norway rates 6th overall in the world for GDP per capita,<br />
>> > while the USA rates 11th.<br />
>><br />
>> > The US rates well down from Norway in health care and everyone is<br />
>> > covered.<br />
>><br />
>> > Norway also has vast natural gas wealth but exports most of it because<br />
>> > they have a wealth of geothermal energy.   And unlike the USA or<br />
>> > Canada, one a net importer the other a net exporter of energy, the<br />
>> > resources are owned by the tax payer and treated better for the<br />
>> > benefit of the Norwegians than in Canada, where royalties are paid to<br />
>> > multinationals.    A great part of Norway&#8217;s robust economy is because<br />
>> > they look out for the people, and they&#8217;re the taxpayers.<br />
>><br />
>> Sorry for the repeat post.  It appears that it didn&#8217;t go to the<br />
>> original groups.<br />
>><br />
>> On Jan 22, 8:31 pm, Nickname unavailable <vide ...@tcq.net> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>> > On Jan 22, 9:55 am, Republicans Hate America <clayno ...@rogers.com><br />
>> > wrote:<br />
>> > In Norway Start-ups Say Ja to Socialism:Norway has more entrepreneurs<br />
>> > per capita than the United States:there is no statistical evidence to<br />
>> > prove that low taxes result in economic prosperity:)low tax rat holes<br />
>> > like texas/estonia are floundering in debt and unemployment<br />
>><br />
>> Norway enjoys one of the top 3 health care systems in the world, but<br />
>> still requires a minimum (income tested) payment for health care to<br />
>> keep people from abusing the system.   It maxes out at $1500 a year<br />
>> for even the richest.    My friend is a physician outside of Oslo and<br />
>> makes far less than his colleagues in Canada or the US, taxes are<br />
>> higher but there are few who complain about the &#8220;cradle to grave&#8221;<br />
>> social safety net there.<br />
>><br />
>> However, Norway rates 6th overall in the world for GDP per capita,<br />
>> while the USA rates 11th.<br />
>><br />
>> The US rates well down from Norway in health care and everyone is<br />
>> covered.<br />
>><br />
>> Norway also has vast natural gas wealth but exports most of it because<br />
>> they have a wealth of geothermal energy.   And unlike the USA or<br />
>> Canada, one a net importer the other a net exporter of energy, the<br />
>> resources are owned by the tax payer and treated better for the<br />
>> benefit of the Norwegians than in Canada, where royalties are paid to<br />
>> multinationals.    A great part of Norway&#8217;s robust economy is because<br />
>> they look out for the people, and they&#8217;re the taxpayers.<br />
><br />
> What is also a bit wacky is how Norway&#8217;s national energy corporation<br />
> has invested heavily in the Canada oil sands project.</p>
<p>So you have Bureaucrats investing the peoples money and future in<br />
venture capitalism, that&#8217;s not just Socialist it&#8217;s insanity.</p>
<p>Government is hardly capable of making laws to protect its citizens<br />
rights, they always end up stealing the rights.  But to think they are<br />
NOW business savvy is plumb stupid.  They can&#8217;t invest any better than<br />
they protected your individual rights.</p>
<p>A shrewd<br />
> capitalist move.   And the profits don&#8217;t go to Gulf Oil or Exxon, they<br />
> go to the people of Norway.</p>
<p></clayno></vide></clayno></vide></andrewrange></p>
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		<title>How &#8216;Bout That Vision of The Visionary Gipper?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 1/4/2011 9:25 PM, Bret Cahill wrote: > Thing is, the Gipster never even supported free marketry. The entire > thing was a complete scam, a 2 bit-40 trillion dollar scam that could > easily be exposed by Toto the dog. > > www.bretcahill.com > Actually he was light years ahead of you&#8230;. but just [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 1/4/2011 9:25 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:<br />
> Thing is, the Gipster never even supported free marketry.  The entire<br />
> thing was a complete scam, a 2 bit-40 trillion dollar scam that could<br />
> easily be exposed by Toto the dog.<br />
><br />
> <a href="http://www.bretcahill.com" >www.bretcahill.com</a><br />
></p>
<p>Actually he was light years ahead of you&#8230;.  but just not as committed<br />
as some.</p>
<p>>>> <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Why-Baby-Boomers-Are-Bummed-usnews-1665..." >http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Why-Baby-Boomers-Are-Bummed-usnews-1665&#8230;</a><br />
>><br />
>> ronald reagans legacy:the looting of america:Reagan-era legislative<br />
>> changes essentially ended New Deal restrictions on mortgage<br />
>> lending:Government is the problem, the magic of the marketplace must<br />
>> be set free:the precautionary rules were scrapped<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://www.journal-news.com/opinion/columnists/paul-krugman-this-rece..." >http://www.journal-news.com/opinion/columnists/paul-krugman-this-rece&#8230;</a><br />
>><br />
>> Paul Krugman: This recession is Reagan’s legacy<br />
>> By Paul Krugman<br />
>> Updated 2:12 PM Tuesday, June 2, 2009<br />
>> “This bill is the most important legislation for financial<br />
>> institutions in the last 50 years. It provides a long-term solution<br />
>> for troubled thrift institutions. &#8230; All in all, I think we hit the<br />
>> jackpot.”<br />
>> So declared Ronald Reagan in 1982, as he signed the Garn-St. Germain<br />
>> Depository Institutions Act.<br />
>> He was, as it happened, wrong about solving the problems of the<br />
>> thrifts. On the contrary, the bill turned the modest-sized troubles of<br />
>> savings-and-loan institutions into an utter catastrophe. But he was<br />
>> right about the legislation’s significance. And as for that jackpot —<br />
>> well, it finally came more than 25 years later, in the form of the<br />
>> worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.<br />
>> For the more one looks into the origins of the current disaster, the<br />
>> clearer it becomes that the key wrong turn — the turn that made crisis<br />
>> inevitable — took place in the early 1980s, during the Reagan years.<br />
>> Attacks on Reaganomics usually focus on rising inequality and fiscal<br />
>> irresponsibility. Indeed, Reagan ushered in an era in which a small<br />
>> minority grew vastly rich, while working families saw only meager<br />
>> gains. He also broke with long-standing rules of fiscal prudence.<br />
>> On the latter point: Traditionally, the U.S. government ran<br />
>> significant budget deficits only in times of war or economic<br />
>> emergency. Federal debt as a percentage of GDP fell steadily from the<br />
>> end of World War II until 1980. But indebtedness began rising under<br />
>> Reagan; it fell again in the Clinton years, but resumed its rise under<br />
>> the Bush administration, leaving us ill prepared for the emergency now<br />
>> upon us.<br />
>> The increase in public debt was, however, dwarfed by the rise in<br />
>> private debt, made possible by financial deregulation. The change in<br />
>> America’s financial rules was Reagan’s biggest legacy. And it’s the<br />
>> gift that keeps on taking.<br />
>> The immediate effect of Garn-St. Germain, as I said, was to turn the<br />
>> thrifts from a problem into a catastrophe. The S&#038;L crisis has been<br />
>> written out of the Reagan hagiography, but the fact is that<br />
>> deregulation in effect gave the industry — whose deposits were<br />
>> federally insured — a license to gamble with taxpayers’ money, at<br />
>> best, or simply to loot it, at worst. By the time the government<br />
>> closed the books on the affair, taxpayers had lost $130 billion, back<br />
>> when that was a lot of money.<br />
>> But there was also a longer-term effect. Reagan-era legislative<br />
>> changes essentially ended New Deal restrictions on mortgage lending —<br />
>> restrictions that, in particular, limited the ability of families to<br />
>> buy homes without putting a significant amount of money down.<br />
>> These restrictions were put in place in the 1930s by political leaders<br />
>> who had just experienced a terrible financial crisis, and were trying<br />
>> to prevent another. But by 1980 the memory of the Depression had<br />
>> faded. Government, declared Reagan, is the problem, not the solution;<br />
>> the magic of the marketplace must be set free. And so the<br />
>> precautionary rules were scrapped.<br />
>> Together with looser lending standards for other kinds of consumer<br />
>> credit, this led to a radical change in American behavior.<br />
>> We weren’t always a nation of big debts and low savings: in the 1970s<br />
>> Americans saved almost 10 percent of their income, slightly more than<br />
>> in the 1960s. It was only after the Reagan deregulation that thrift<br />
>> gradually disappeared from the American way of life, culminating in<br />
>> the near-zero savings rate that prevailed on the eve of the great<br />
>> crisis. Household debt was only 60 percent of income when Reagan took<br />
>> office, about the same as it was during the Kennedy administration. By<br />
>> 2007 it was up to 119 percent.<br />
>> All this, we were assured, was a good thing: sure, Americans were<br />
>> piling up debt, and they weren’t putting aside any of their income,<br />
>> but their finances looked fine once you took into account the rising<br />
>> values of their houses and their stock portfolios. Oops.<br />
>> Now, the proximate causes of today’s economic crisis lie in events<br />
>> that took place long after Reagan left office — in the global savings<br />
>> glut created by surpluses in China and elsewhere, and in the giant<br />
>> housing bubble that savings glut helped inflate.<br />
>> But it was the explosion of debt over the previous quarter-century<br />
>> that made the U.S. economy so vulnerable. Overstretched borrowers were<br />
>> bound to start defaulting in large numbers once the housing bubble<br />
>> burst and unemployment began to rise.<br />
>> These defaults in turn wreaked havoc with a financial system that —<br />
>> also mainly thanks to Reagan-era deregulation — took on too much risk<br />
>> with too little capital.<br />
>> There’s plenty of blame to go around these days. But the prime<br />
>> villains behind the mess we’re in were Reagan and his circle of<br />
>> advisers — men who forgot the lessons of America’s last great<br />
>> financial crisis, and condemned the rest of us to repeat it.<br />
>><br />
>> Paul Krugman writes for the New York Times.<br />
></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 11/3/2010 1:47 PM, dave wrote: > Beam Me Up Scotty wrote: >> On 11/3/2010 9:14 AM, dave wrote: > >>> Unless we begin devoting at least 20% of our GDP immediately to climate >>> change mitigation, we shall not survive. >> >> >> Build your coffin today&#8230;. >> > > You coffin is my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 11/3/2010 1:47 PM, dave wrote:<br />
> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>> On 11/3/2010 9:14 AM, dave wrote:<br />
><br />
>>> Unless we begin devoting at least 20% of our GDP immediately to climate<br />
>>> change mitigation, we shall not survive.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>> Build your coffin today&#8230;.<br />
>><br />
><br />
> You coffin is my coffin, Queequeg.</p>
<p>; From Hell&#8217;s heart, I stab at thee;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 10/12/2010 12:33 PM, DMJoshi wrote: > By a group of 11 prominent charities including Save the Children, > Oxfam, and World Vision. > > That is how much Mongrel&#8217;s America is loved by people of a Muslim > country where Taliban was resurrected and Al Qaeda was born in > nineteen eighties by raining [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 10/12/2010 12:33 PM, DMJoshi wrote:<br />
> By a group of 11 prominent charities including Save the Children,<br />
> Oxfam, and World Vision.<br />
><br />
> That is how much Mongrel&#8217;s America is loved by people of a Muslim<br />
> country where Taliban was resurrected and Al Qaeda was born in<br />
> nineteen eighties by raining American dollars.<br />
><br />
> <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11522197" >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11522197</a></p>
<p>&#8220;A letter calling on the US to remove logos on American-funded<br />
assistance in Pakistan&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s simple, just remove *the American funded assistance*</p>
<p>It will kill two birds with one stone, the Letter will be answered and<br />
we can sell the products and help our GDP.</p>
<p>Everyone will be happy.</p>
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		<title>WE ARE FALLING INTO THE ABYSS</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 10/4/2010 11:42 AM, Jimbo wrote: > On Oct 4, 11:39 am, DanielSan wrote: >> On 10/4/2010 8:29 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 10/3/2010 3:36 PM, DanielSan wrote: >>>> On 10/3/2010 1:29 PM, Jason wrote: >>>>> In article, DanielSan >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> On 10/3/2010 12:31 PM, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 10/4/2010 11:42 AM, Jimbo wrote:<br />
> On Oct 4, 11:39 am, DanielSan <daniel ...@speakeasy.net> wrote:<br />
>> On 10/4/2010 8:29 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>> On 10/3/2010 3:36 PM, DanielSan wrote:<br />
>>>> On 10/3/2010 1:29 PM, Jason wrote:<br />
>>>>> In article<osidncxkqz8cudxrnz2dnuvz_vkaa ...@speakeasy.net>, DanielSan<br />
>>>>> <daniel ...@speakeasy.net>   wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> On 10/3/2010 12:31 PM, Jason wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> In article&lt;79udndKw0fYVWDXRnZ2dnUVZ_tqmn&#8230;@speakeasy.net>, DanielSan<br />
>>>>>>> </daniel><daniel ...@speakeasy.net>    wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2010 12:03 PM, Jason wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>> In article<viudnvdn3afvkzxrnz2dnuvz_i2dn ...@speakeasy.net>, DanielSan<br />
>>>>>>>>> <daniel ...@speakeasy.net>     wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2010 9:47 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2010 12:02 PM, DanielSan wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2010 2:48 AM, Jason wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
<pp2dnxudnzegcjrrnz2dnuvz_oodn ...@speakeasy.net>,<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DanielSan<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel ...@speakeasy.net>       wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/2010 8:46 PM, Jason wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<yicdnx4ccs5ufzrrnz2dnuvz_hkdn ...@speakeasy.net>,<br />
>>>>> DanielSan<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel ...@speakeasy.net>        wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/2010 7:57 PM, Jason wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<c86dnvlq5eznxtrrnz2dnuvz_rqdn ...@speakeasy.net>,<br />
>>>>>>> DanielSan<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <daniel ...@speakeasy.net>         wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/2/2010 4:48 PM, Jason wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<slrniafcqk .1vhg.patr...@eris.io.com>,<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:patr...@io.com">patr&#8230;@io.com</a><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:10:53 -0700,<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason<ja ...@nospam.com><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<slrniaack6 .12e6.patr...@fnord.io.com>,<br />
>>>>> <a href="mailto:patr...@io.com">patr&#8230;@io.com</a><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 03:18:29 -0700,<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason<ja ...@nospam.com>          wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<slrnia7tmn .2218.patr...@eris.io.com>,<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:patr...@io.com">patr&#8230;@io.com</a> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 02:12:22 -0700,<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason<ja ...@nospam.com>          wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason stated:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the Muslims want Americans to respect them and<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat them<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well&#8211;the<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worst way to do it is by pissing off millions of<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans by<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building a<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muslim Center near ground zero. You fail to<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simple point.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel stated:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand it already.  It&#8217;s just wholly<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people are getting scared and angry over the<br />
>>>>>>> non-existent.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason stated:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not getting scared and angry. Millions of<br />
>>>>> Americans<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will lose<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respect for Muslims if they refuse to relocate the<br />
>>>>> Muslim<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Center. Is that<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you want to happen?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel stated:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are losing respect for an entire group of<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people over<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn&#8217;t even exist.  Is that what you want to<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happen?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason stated:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Muslim Center will be constructed near ground<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zero<br />
>>>>>>> unless<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is stopped for some reason. Over 60% of the American<br />
>>>>> people<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want the<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muslims to relocate the Muslim Center. I agree<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with them<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and am an<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advocate for those people.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You&#8217;d better get permission from your supposed 60%.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I&#8217;m a self-appointed community organizer <img src='http://outsourcenews.net/ng/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You&#8217;re about as close to New York as I am from<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tulsa&#8230;and<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that&#8217;s a<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nine-hour drive.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was joking. Obama claimed to be a community organizer.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No problem&#8230;he has a bit of experience in that, but the<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Presidential<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsibilities of the office limits his time to do<br />
>>>>> that.  (Wait<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until next<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> year in November, when the race starts organizing.)<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope that Obama is defeated in his next election. At<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rate<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he his<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending money&#8211;America will be bankrupt in the near<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. I<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heard on<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the news that Aemrica is 14 twillion dollars in debt.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twillion? *giggles madly*<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was not a typo&#8211;it was a real spelling error. I rarely<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use the<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trillion.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, now a challenge.  What was the debt when George W. Bush<br />
>>>>>>> got into<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> office versus when he left office?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don&#8217;t know&#8211;My atlas does not appear to have that<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informaton. I<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will not<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defend George W. Bush. I turned my back on him shortly after<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he was<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected. He was also a big spender.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think that all spending is bad?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No&#8211;I believe the constitution calls for spending related to<br />
>>>>> protecting<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the borders of America from attacks. That sort of spending is<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine. I<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don&#8217;t have any problems with Social Security. Other spending<br />
>>>>>>> programs are<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine with me. Clinton done a great job controlling spending. All<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> presidents since Clinton have been spending money like druken<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sailors.<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> national debt will soon be 14 trillion dollars. At the rate we<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> are<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spending money, America will soon become like a third world<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nation. I<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> don&#8217;t want that to happen. Are you concerned about excess gov&#8217;t<br />
>>>>>>> spending?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that George W. Bush spent like a drunken sailor on<br />
>>>>> things that<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> did not help this country.  Obama, on the other hand, is spending<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> responsibly.  The debt will continue to grow for a while whilst<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> we fix<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> the stupidity of the prior administrations from Reagan to now.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> Huge deficits as far as can be predicted&#8230;.  sounds like a real<br />
>>>>>>> fine plan.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> Of course.  It&#8217;s what&#8217;s required to fix the stupidity&#8230;unless<br />
>>>>>>>>>> you think<br />
>>>>>>>>>> it&#8217;s fiscally responsible to not pay the past due bills.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>> Did Obama during his campaign complain about the budget deficit and<br />
>>>>>>>>> national debt? If so, did Obama lie to the American people when he<br />
>>>>>>>>> stated<br />
>>>>>>>>> or at least strongly implied that he would take actions to reduce the<br />
>>>>>>>>> budget deficit and national debt?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> I say he&#8217;s TAKING those actions.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>> Is the national debt and budget deficit trending in the right or wrong<br />
>>>>>>> directions?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> The deficit is actually lower than Bush&#8217;s last budget so I&#8217;d say that<br />
>>>>>> it&#8217;s the right direction.  We are no longer hemorrhaging nearly three<br />
>>>>>> quarters of a million jobs a month.  The stocks are going up.  Jobs are<br />
>>>>>> being added and consumer confidence is returning.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> It&#8217;s getting better, but it&#8217;s just going to take a long time to get out<br />
>>>>>> of the muck.<br />
>><br />
>>>>> I have seen some news reports indicating there is a concern that another<br />
>>>>> economic downturn may soon kick in. I hope they are wrong about that<br />
>>>>> prediction.<br />
>><br />
>>>> If Obama does as FDR did and reduce government spending like FDR did,<br />
>>>> then we will go into another slump.  I hope Obama is smart enough not to<br />
>>>> do that.<br />
>><br />
>>> We&#8217;re already in &#8220;another slump&#8221;  and all Obama did was increase spending.<br />
>><br />
>> We are?  Weird.  I thought the economy was still growing.<br />
>><br />
>><br />
><br />
> It is, Scotty just lied again.  Frustratingly slow, but it is still<br />
> growing.</p>
<p>Government is growing, the private sector is NOT.</p>
<p>The numbers you are parroting are embellished at best and flat out lies<br />
and fraud in the light of day.</p>
<p>Obama owns tons of stock, so that isn&#8217;t &#8220;the market&#8221;  it is the<br />
&#8220;government propped up virtual market&#8221;</p>
<p>Housing has 10 years of sales to go before they just clear out all the<br />
foreclosures&#8230;..  And the Banks have stopped foreclosures temporarily<br />
to keep from flooding the market and driving down prices anymore.  Had<br />
the Banks done that to &#8220;charge you more for a loan&#8221; the banks would have<br />
been sued by Obama&#8230;.  but Obama knows that more houses on the market<br />
now, will drive the economy down so he will allow the banks to<br />
manipulate the housing markets and colluding to do their price fixing.</p>
<p>Consumers aren&#8217;t spending, unless you count government in the (C) for<br />
consumer, but (G) is already counted as government spending.<br />
The existing equation: GDP = C + I + G + (X &#8211; M)</p>
<p>Prices are rising and inflation is on its way, grocery store and other<br />
necessities are costing more. Factory goods sales are down.</p>
<p>*WE ARE FALLING INTO THE ABYSS*</p>
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		<title>The U.S. has among the worst health statistics of all rich nations.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 9/20/2010 6:11 PM, Joe Irvin wrote: > &#8220;wy&#8221; wrote in message > news:518879e6-23c4-4f73-a94c-14bd66602f41 @&#038;*$?%m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com&#8230; > On Sep 20, 8:29 am, Johnny Asia wrote: >> Myth: The U.S. has the best health care system in the world. >> >> Fact: The U.S. has among the worst health statistics of all rich >> nations. >> >> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9/20/2010 6:11 PM, Joe Irvin wrote:<br />
> &#8220;wy&#8221; <wy_ @myself.com> wrote in message<br />
> news:518879e6-23c4-4f73-a94c-14bd66602f41<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com&#8230;<br />
> On Sep 20, 8:29 am, Johnny Asia <baying46 ...@mypacks.net> wrote:<br />
>> Myth: The U.S. has the best health care system in the world.<br />
>><br />
>> Fact: The U.S. has among the worst health statistics of all rich<br />
>> nations.<br />
>><br />
>> Let&#8217;s review the health care statistics first, and analyze them<br />
>> afterwards. All statistics here are for the year 1991; they have<br />
>> generally become worse for the U.S. since then.<br />
>><br />
>> Health Care Expenditures (percent of GDP) (1)<br />
>><br />
></p>
<p>*I have found that you pretty much get what you pay for*</p>
<p>> The 1991 figures with 2008 figures in brackets:<br />
><br />
> United States 13.4% (16.0%)<br />
> Canada 10.0 (10.4)<br />
> Finland 9.1 (8.4)<br />
> Sweden 8.6 (9.4)<br />
> Germany 8.4 (10.5)<br />
> Netherlands 8.4 (9.9)<br />
> Norway 7.6 (8.5)<br />
> Japan 6.8 (8.1)<br />
> United Kingdom 6.6 (8.7)<br />
> Denmark 6.5 (9.7)<br />
><br />
> <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2bgywp7" >http://tinyurl.com/2bgywp7</a><br />
><br />
> So after 17 years, while everybody else has still managed to contain<br />
> costs to around 10% or under GDP, the U.S. easily succeeded in<br />
> surpassing 15% GDP while at the same time covering less than half the<br />
> population with some form of public health care compared to other<br />
> countries covering their entire population in most cases and the<br />
> majority in the rest.  Looks like the U.S. certainly isn&#8217;t getting<br />
> more bang for its buck.<br />
> ***************************************************************<br />
><br />
> Its easy to cover everyone with health care insurance, the problem is<br />
> delivering timely health care services &#8230; line, shortages etc.  In the US<br />
> if you have the money/insurance you get timely healthcare.<br />
><br />
></p>
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		<title>either way Obama looks like an ignorant rube and unworthy of running the greatest Nation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 9/18/2010 4:01 PM, MarkA wrote: > On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:36:45 -0500, Gray Ghost wrote: > >> MarkA wrote in news:i72oc301ml8 @&#038;*$?%news1.newsguy.com: >> >>> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:58:25 -0500, Gray Ghost wrote: >>> >>>> DanielSan wrote in news:RNKdnYcs9 >>>> _cHzw3RnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d @&#038;*$?%speakeasy.net: >>>> >>>>> On 9/14/2010 10:13 PM, Oglethorpe wrote: >>>>>> &#8220;tirebiter&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9/18/2010 4:01 PM, MarkA wrote:<br />
> On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:36:45 -0500, Gray Ghost wrote:<br />
><br />
>> MarkA <nobody @nowhere.com> wrote in news:i72oc301ml8<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>news1.newsguy.com:<br />
>><br />
>>> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:58:25 -0500, Gray Ghost wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>> DanielSan <danielsan @speakeasy.net> wrote in news:RNKdnYcs9<br />
>>>> <a href="mailto:_cHzw3RnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>speakeasy.net">_cHzw3RnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>speakeasy.net</a>:<br />
>>>><br />
>>>>> On 9/14/2010 10:13 PM, Oglethorpe wrote:<br />
>>>>>> &#8220;tirebiter&#8221;<dontspamme666 @bigfoot.com>  wrote in message<br />
>>>>>> news:5fe339bf-b95b-4988-<br />
>>> <a href="mailto:a1f7-3febdcf4bd71<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com">a1f7-3febdcf4bd71<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>a19g2000vbi.googlegroups.com</a>&#8230;<br />
>>>>>> On Sep 14, 4:57 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-<br />
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com">Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com</a>>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> On 9/14/2010 4:36 PM, DanielSan wrote:<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> On 9/14/2010 11:07 AM, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>> On 9/14/2010 12:28 PM, tirebiter wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 14, 12:20 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty</then>
<then -Destroy-<br />
>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com">Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com</a>>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/14/2010 11:54 AM, tirebiter wrote:<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 14, 11:46 am, Beam Me Up Scotty</then>
<then -Destroy-<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com">Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com</a>>  wrote:<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again with every KKK member is a Racist&#8230;.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> However, in rereading this diddy, I would be interested in how<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> many KKK members you don&#8217;t think are racist.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> How many Muslims do you think, at least tacitly support the<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> terrorists?<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> None of the ones I know personally. I&#8217;m sure the number is larger<br />
>>>>>>>>>> than zero, but by all accounts, it doesn&#8217;t include the people<br />
>>>>>>>>>> involved in this center.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> How many KKK members do you thnk aren&#8217;t racists?<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> About the same as the percent of Muslims who support Muslim<br />
>>>>>>>>> terrorists.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> People that belong to &#8220;group (A)&#8221; are probably much the same as<br />
>>>>>>>>> others that join a different &#8220;group (B)&#8221; you are there for a<br />
>>>>>>>>> reason.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> Like Obama who joined a Church so that he could NOT agree with the<br />
>>>>>>>>> Pastor of that church.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>>> And your evidence that the pastor said the heinous things while<br />
>>>>>>>> Obama was in the church is&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..?<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>>> It&#8217;s not my church so I don&#8217;t need to prove anything&#8230;. Obama can<br />
>>>>>>> prove anything he wants, be it that he sat there and believes in Rev.<br />
>>>>>>> Wright, or that he was out to lunch and was duped by this Marxist<br />
>>>>>>> preacher and his hate&#8230;. either way Obama looks like an ignorant<br />
>>>>>>> rube and unworthy of running the greatest Nation that ever existed.<br />
>>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> It&#8217;s your accusation so you certainly do need to prove it.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> In his first full fiscal year as President, his policies have reduced<br />
>>>>>> the deficit by 8% from Bush&#8217;s last fiscal year.<br />
>>>>>><br />
>>>>>> BULLSHIT. He&#8217;s doubled the deficit in his first year in office.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>> Bullshit.<br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>>><br />
>>>> So you&#8217;re saying that the US government reported amount for the deficit<br />
>>>> for<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> FY 2008 was not about 500 billion<br />
>>>> FY 2009 was not a bit less than 1.5 trillion FY 2010 is not on track to<br />
>>>> be a bit more than 1.5 trillion<br />
>>>><br />
>>>> So the government is lieing to us? Is that your final answer?<br />
>>><br />
>>> From <a href="http://www.cbo.com:" >www.cbo.com:</a><br />
>>><br />
>>> The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that the federal budget<br />
>>> deficit for 2010 will exceed $1.3 trillionâ€”$71 billion below last year&#8217;s<br />
>>> total and $27 billion lower than the amount that CBO projected in March<br />
>>> 2010, when it issued its previous estimate.<br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>><br />
>> The site is requesting a login and password to gain access. Are you a shill<br />
>> for Credit Suisse?<br />
>><br />
>> However at CBO.GOV is a nice chart showing outlays and revenues as a<br />
>> percentage of GDP. The largest gap is in 2010 wherein outlays are about 24%<br />
>> and revenues about 15%. The chart tuns from 1980 to 2020 with 2010 having the<br />
>> largest gap by far. However it shows revenues continuously increasing a the<br />
>> leech that is government attempts to bleed dry the country with little in the<br />
>> way of reductions in outlay. In fact according to thier estimates after a<br />
>> brief drop we can expect government outlays to steadily increase as it<br />
>> consumes more of the economy.<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://cbo.gov/budget/budget.cfm" >http://cbo.gov/budget/budget.cfm</a><br />
>><br />
>> Never the less it is becoming clear that there is slight of hand on the<br />
>> numbers reporting. There seems to be several ways to look at it and of course<br />
>> evryone wants the version that most flatters thier view.<br />
>><br />
>> However factually YTD FY2010<br />
>> US National Debt $13.5 trillion<br />
>> US Federal spending $3.5 trilllion<br />
>> US federal budget deficit $1.4 trillion<br />
>> US federal taz revenue $2.1 trillion<br />
>> <a href="http://www.usdebtclock.org/#" >http://www.usdebtclock.org/#</a><br />
>><br />
>> Put simply. We spend way to much. We tax way to much. We owe way to much.<br />
><br />
> Agreed.  The problem is in trying to reach a consensus on the question,<br />
> &#8220;What services are you willing to give up to reduce government spending?&#8221;<br />
></p>
<p>Soon to be a moot point as we run out of money to borrow, to support a<br />
lifestyle we can&#8217;t afford. A lifestyle of the Liberal Welfare State<br />
where we ravage our economy to pay everyone to do nothing forever.</p>
<p>Obama wants to redistribute our wealth, why NOT redistribute our debt to<br />
the world.</p>
</then></dontspamme666></danielsan></nobody></p>
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		<title>#Why it is good to be a conservative</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 9/16/2010 7:28 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote: > On Sep 15, 11:01 pm, Mitchell Holman wrote: >> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote >> innews:4C90FA0D.8050605 @&#038;*$?%Blackhole.NebulaX.com: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 9/14/2010 11:43 PM, Ray Fischer wrote: >>>> Beam Me Up Scotty >>>> wrote: >>>>> The Clinton spending didn&#8217;t shrink, until congress in 1994 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9/16/2010 7:28 AM, Kurt Nicklas wrote:<br />
> On Sep 15, 11:01 pm, Mitchell Holman <nom ...@comcast.net> wrote:<br />
>> Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote<br />
>> innews:4C90FA0D.8050605<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>Blackhole.NebulaX.com:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>> On 9/14/2010 11:43 PM, Ray Fischer wrote:<br />
>>>> Beam Me Up Scotty  </then>
<then -Destroy-Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com>
>>>> wrote:<br />
>>>>> The Clinton spending didn&#8217;t shrink, until congress in 1994 started<br />
>>>>> cutting the spending.<br />
>><br />
>>>> That&#8217;s another rightard lie.<br />
>><br />
>>>> The GOP tried to slash Medicare and education but Clinton shut down<br />
>>>> the government rather than let them.  They were forced to back down.<br />
>><br />
>>> Shutting down government helped cut costs.  Thanks to Clinton.<br />
>><br />
>>>> And the budget still ended up balance.<br />
>><br />
>>> Cut welfare and a bunch more.<br />
>><br />
>>>> Until Bush took office.<br />
>><br />
>>> And had an attack from Al Qaeda that cost trillions<br />
>><br />
>>    From the Conservative Cato Institute:<br />
>><br />
>> &#8220;President Bush has presided over the largest overall increase<br />
>> in inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lyndon B. Johnson.<br />
>> Even after excluding spending on defense and homeland security,<br />
>> Bush is still the biggest-spending president in 30 years. His<br />
>> 2006 budget doesn’t cut enough spending to change his place in<br />
>> history, either.<br />
>><br />
>> Total government spending grew by 33 percent during Bush’s first<br />
>> term. The federal budget as a share of the economy grew from 18.5<br />
>> percent of GDP on Clinton’s last day in office to 20.3 percent<br />
>> by the end of Bush’s first term.<br />
>><br />
>> The Republican Congress has enthusiastically assisted the budget<br />
>> bloat. Inflation-adjusted spending on the combined budgets of<br />
>> the 101 largest programs they vowed to eliminate in 1995 has grown<br />
>> by 27 percent.<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3750" >http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3750</a><br />
May 3, 2005<br />
Policy Analysis no. 543</p>
<p>The Grand Old Spending Party: How Republicans Became Big Spenders</p>
<p>by Stephen Slivinski</p>
<p>Stephen Slivinski is director of budget studies at the Cato Institute.</p>
<p>*Published on May* 3, 2005</p>
<p>President Bush has presided over the largest overall increase in<br />
inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lyndon B. Johnson. Even after<br />
excluding spending on defense and homeland security, Bush is still the<br />
biggest-spending president in 30 years. His 2006 budget doesn’t cut<br />
enough spending to change his place in history, either.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>*UNTIL OBAMA CAME TO TOWN*</p>
<p>Stop the Federal Spending Spree</p>
<p>by Tad DeHaven</p>
<p>Tad DeHaven is a budget analyst at the Cato Institute and co-editor of<br />
Downsizing Government.org.</p>
<p>Added to cato.org on June 8, 2010</p>
<p>This article appeared in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution on June 7, 2010.</p>
<p>Runaway federal spending has emerged as the chief issue on the minds of<br />
voters heading into the fall election season — and for good reason.</p>
<p>In 2000, the federal government spent $1.8 trillion while debt held by<br />
the public stood at $3.4 trillion. A mere decade later, the federal<br />
government is on pace to spend $3.7 trillion while publicly held debt is<br />
approaching $10 trillion.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no blame game left to be played. President George W. Bush left<br />
office having presided over one of the largest expansions of federal<br />
spending in history.</p>
<p>*President Barack Obama appears intent* on pulling off the amazing feat<br />
of *making Bush look like a relative tightwad* .</p>
<p>And Congress has become so addicted to spending that the new Capitol<br />
Visitor Center — itself a $600 million fiscal boondoggle — might need to<br />
be converted into a giant methadone clinic.</p>
<p>Tad DeHaven is a budget analyst at the Cato Institute and co-editor of<br />
Downsizing Government.org.<br />
More by Tad DeHaven</p>
<p>So what hope do taxpayers have left?</p>
<p>On the Democratic side of the aisle, it appears that there isn&#8217;t any.<br />
While the European welfare states are beginning to collapse under their<br />
own weight, the Obama administration and Democrat-controlled Congress<br />
are pushing the U.S. full steam ahead toward a similar fate of<br />
unsustainable social welfare spending.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s latest budget would push publicly held debt as a percentage of<br />
GDP to 90 percent by 2020 — a height last seen at the end of World War II.<br />
<a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11878" >http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11878</a><br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>And Cato isn&#8217;t conservative, it is Libertarian.</p>
<p>You can always tell when it&#8217;s a totalitarian loving Leftist writing<br />
here, by the way they call a centrist freedom loving group like<br />
Libertarians as Conservatives.</p>
</then></nom></p>
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		<title>Idle Rich Don&#8217;t Want To Compete. Idle Rich Want Tax Cuts On the Rich. Working Rich Support Tax Hikes On the Rich</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 9/14/2010 10:47 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote: > On Sep 14, 9:07 pm, Jerry wrote: >> On Sep 14, 5:28 pm, Nickname unavailable wrote: >> >>> On Sep 14, 5:32 pm, Jerry wrote: >> >>>> On Sep 14, 2:25 pm, Bret Cahill wrote: >> >>>>> Montesquieu believed freedom and taxation were correlative. >> >>>> If [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9/14/2010 10:47 PM, Nickname unavailable wrote:<br />
> On Sep 14, 9:07 pm, Jerry <story .je...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>> On Sep 14, 5:28 pm, Nickname unavailable <vide ...@tcq.net> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>> On Sep 14, 5:32 pm, Jerry <story .je...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>> On Sep 14, 2:25 pm, Bret Cahill <bretcah ...@peoplepc.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>> Montesquieu believed freedom and taxation were correlative.<br />
>><br />
>>>> If freedom and taxation go together, that means gimme your money or I<br />
>>>> will shoot you and the more money I take from you in this manner the<br />
>>>> more free you are.<br />
>><br />
>>>  that is the response of a extremist. night or day, either or, black<br />
>>> or white. never shades of gray. but the extremist does not recognize,<br />
>>> nor cares that the private sector in america is having people jailed<br />
>>> because they lack the means to pay their bills.<br />
>><br />
>> A tax is not free trade.<br />
><br />
>  the above response makes no sense at all. are you a member of the tea<br />
> party?<br />
The existing equation: GDP = C + I + G + (X &#8211; M)<br />
>><br />
>> G = Government spending,<br />
>> C = Consumer spending<br />
>> I = Investment spending<br />
>> (X &#8211; M) Export Import spending<br />
>><br />
>> Government spending is just taking money from pile &#8220;C&#8221; the consumer  and<br />
>> putting it in pile &#8220;G&#8221; the Government where it creates nothing, then<br />
>> handing it back to pile &#8220;C&#8221; and while that redistributes money it<br />
>> creates no wealth. This redistribution creates no wealth, all it creates<br />
>> is bigger government and that steals from &#8220;I&#8221; the Investment.<br />
>><br />
>> Money Velocity which is a good indicator of economic behavior, when<br />
>> money is circulating too fast then we have an inflation problem, no one<br />
>> wants to hold the cash long enough for it to lose value. When money<br />
>> stops moving, people are hoarding it because their future is unstable.<br />
>><br />
>> Obama&#8217;s redistribution is a fake/phony astro-turf version of a real<br />
>> economy, it&#8217;s a *virtual economy* the numbers are manipulated and the<br />
>> money velocity in Obamanomics is like plastic fruit, it looks more or<br />
>> less good, but has no practical use.   Obama/Democrats/Government are<br />
>> trying to fool you.</p>
<p></bretcah></story></vide></story></p>
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		<title>The virtual economy is not even in a virtual recovery</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 8/27/2010 9:58 PM, phil scott wrote: > We are in a net 20% to 30% contraction &#8230;floating on unpayable > debt. The GDP figure is just a smoke screen. > > GDP is NOT up&#8230; its crashed. GDP is a fake number&#8230;. The existing equation: GDP = C + I + G + (X [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 8/27/2010 9:58 PM, phil scott wrote:<br />
> We are in a net 20% to 30% contraction &#8230;floating on unpayable<br />
> debt.   The GDP figure is just a smoke screen.<br />
><br />
> GDP is NOT up&#8230; its crashed.</p>
<p>GDP is a fake number&#8230;.</p>
<p>The existing equation: GDP = C + I + G + (X &#8211; M)</p>
<p>G = Government spending,<br />
C = Consumer spending<br />
I = Investment spending<br />
(X &#8211; M) Export Import spending</p>
<p>Government spending is just taking money from pile &#8220;C&#8221; the consumer  and<br />
putting it in pile &#8220;G&#8221; the Government where it creates nothing, then<br />
handing it back to pile &#8220;C&#8221; and while that redistributes money it<br />
creates no wealth. This redistribution creates no wealth, all it creates<br />
is bigger government and that steals from &#8220;I&#8221; the Investment.</p>
<p>Money Velocity which is a good indicator of economic behavior, when<br />
money is circulating too fast then we have an inflation problem, no one<br />
wants to hold the cash long enough for it to lose value. When money<br />
stops moving, people are hoarding it because their future is unstable.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s redistribution is a fake/phony astro-turf version of a real<br />
economy, it&#8217;s a *virtual economy* the numbers are manipulated and the<br />
money velocity in Obamanomics is like plastic fruit, it looks more or<br />
less good, but has no practical use.   Obama/Democrats/Government are<br />
trying to fool you.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 8/18/2010 10:44 AM, tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 18, 9:16 am, Dawlish wrote: >> On Aug 18, 3:07 pm, tunderbar wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Aug 18, 3:35 am, Earl Evleth wrote: >> >>>> A week ago, climategate on google news got 380 hits >>>> and it hit 284 today. It [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 8/18/2010 10:44 AM, tunderbar wrote:<br />
> On Aug 18, 9:16 am, Dawlish
<pjg ...@hotmail.com> wrote:<br />
>> On Aug 18, 3:07 pm, tunderbar
<tdcom ...@gmail.com> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>> On Aug 18, 3:35 am, Earl Evleth <evl ...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>> A week ago, climategate on google news got 380 hits<br />
>>>> and it hit 284 today.  It is like the birther<br />
>>>> movement in the US, less and less in tne news.<br />
>><br />
>>>> I figure it will get a hard core 20 score by<br />
>>>> the end o September. It will be always around<br />
>>>> but mere shadow of what it was, a denier&#8217;s<br />
>>>> snow job, but the snow melted.<br />
>><br />
>>> Odd, the same can be said about global warming in general. It&#8217;s over.<br />
>>> Stick a fork in it. It&#8217;s done. No 3% of global GDP by 2030. Let the<br />
>>> purges begin. We can start with the &#8220;climate scientists&#8221; at our<br />
>>> universities, then we can start charging the hypocrites like Gore and<br />
>>> Pachauri with fraud and other such crimes.<br />
>><br />
>> oooops 0-92 Gore!<br />
>><br />
>> Tundy: explain this (I think it will be beyond you, but I&#8217;ll ask you<br />
>> anyway to embarrass you in front of the stupids):<br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps+001" >http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/execute.csh?amsutemps+001</a><br />
>><br />
>> How can it be that warm when we have an extended solar minimum, the<br />
>> PDO in a negative phase and La Nina<br />
>> conditions across the equatorial Pacific?- Hide quoted text -<br />
>><br />
>> &#8211; Show quoted text -<br />
><br />
> How can temps not go up as predicted when CO2 levels are still going<br />
> up?</p>
<p>How can someone NOT die again and again as you inject another dose of<br />
poison after they are dead?</p>
<p></evl></tdcom></pjg>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 7/28/2010 7:57 AM, Larry G wrote: > On Jul 27, 7:36 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote: >> On 7/27/2010 7:06 PM, Michael Coburn wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:31:48 -0700, Larry G wrote: >> >>>> On Jul 27, 1:36 pm, Michael Coburn wrote: >>>>> On [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/28/2010 7:57 AM, Larry G wrote:<br />
> On Jul 27, 7:36 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty
<then -Destroy-<br />
> <a href="mailto:Everyth...@Blackhole.NebulaX.com">Everyth&#8230;@Blackhole.NebulaX.com</a>> wrote:<br />
>> On 7/27/2010 7:06 PM, Michael Coburn wrote:<br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>><br />
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:31:48 -0700, Larry G wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>> On Jul 27, 1:36 pm, Michael Coburn <mik ...@verizon.net> wrote:<br />
>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:34:32 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> On 7/27/2010 12:51 AM, Michael Coburn wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:53:39 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> On 7/26/2010 9:28 PM, Michael Coburn wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:22:47 -0700, Larry G wrote:<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 9:27 pm, Dave Head <rally ...@att.net> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:13:26 -0500, &#8220;bugo&#8221; <wat ...@yahoo.com><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> &#8220;Dave Head&#8221; <rally ...@att.net> wrote in message<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bhnp46teki6ftfe9lco9p88sg7a567u28m<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com&#8230;<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Fair Tax is applied as a sales tax on new items and<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> services sold at retail.  Things sold at wholesale, or for use<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in commerce, are not taxed.  So, Farmer Brown&#8217;s seed stock for<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the year is not taxed, nor is his tractor.  The corn you buy<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from him is taxed since it is sold to you at retail.  Every<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new item and every service, save one, is taxed.  The only<br />
>>>>>>>>>>>>> service not taxed is tuition.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> So corporations get off scot-free.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> They always have.  No corporation has ever paid a penny of tax.<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> They&#8217;ve just passed that expense along to the rest of us who buy<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> their products, and we pay it.  THe corporation simply ends up<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> being a tax collector, to the detriment of Ameican industrial<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> competitiveness.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> No wonder why you corporate-loving Repubs like it so much.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> Why would you not be &#8220;corporate-loving.&#8221;  Where else do you<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> think you&#8217;re going to get the good jobs to raise people out of<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> poverty?<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>>> In your distorted world, corporations can do no wrong.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>>> Didn&#8217;t say that, but that&#8217;s no reason to hate them all because<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> some of them do really nasty stuff.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> corps just pass on the taxes to the customers&#8230; that&#8217;s true.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>>> Nope.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>>> Explain what source the corporation&#8217;s tax money comes from if it<br />
>>>>>>>> isn&#8217;t coming from the customer.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>> The increased payments to the government are taken from what would<br />
>>>>>>> have been paid out as dividends and/or the value of the stock takes<br />
>>>>>>> a hit. IN<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> This would be a confession that *taxes kill growth* and the<br />
>>>>>> *business* *shrinks* as the value of the company takes a hit from<br />
>>>>>> higher taxes?<br />
>><br />
>>>>> That is, of course, a lie.  It is a fact that taxes will not &#8220;kill<br />
>>>>> growth&#8221; if properly applied.  Even in the current system the value of<br />
>>>>> LARGE companies take a greater hit than small companies from increases<br />
>>>>> in corporate tax rates.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> Which means your past Leftist rhetoric about taxes helping business<br />
>>>>>> and consumers was a lie.<br />
>><br />
>>>>> It means that you will now resort to lying about what I have said. I<br />
>>>>> have said that the actual burden of the tax depends on elasticicities<br />
>>>>> and on how the proceeds of the tax are applied.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> The problem with your assumption is that the people running the<br />
>>>>>> business cut their overhead(usually trim labor costs) to offset the<br />
>>>>>> new taxes. That in turn hurts the workers and the consumers that may<br />
>>>>>> see the new tax partly passed on in the higher price. Cut a little<br />
>>>>>> raise the price a little, and the corporation stays competitive and<br />
>>>>>> doesn&#8217;t take a hit.<br />
>><br />
>>>>> You just repeat the same pig <acronym title="shit"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> s&*$?%t</span></acronym> over and over again.  And the _FACT_<br />
>>>>> is that if the company could get along with less labor expense and/or<br />
>>>>> charging consumers more then that is what the profit maximizing<br />
>>>>> corporation would have done _ALREADY_.  The companies are not &#8220;waiting&#8221;<br />
>>>>> for a tax increase to _allow_ profit maximization.  That claim is<br />
>>>>> ludicrous.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>>> either case, the corporation eats the tax and the customers pay the<br />
>>>>>>> same amount as before for the same product or service.<br />
>><br />
>>>>>> You never ran a successful business!<br />
>><br />
>>>>> I ran my own business for 30 years, liar.<br />
>><br />
>>>>> &#8211;<br />
>>>>> &#8220;Senate rules don&#8217;t trump the Constitution&#8221;<br />
>>>>> &#8211;http://GreaterVoice.org/60<br />
>><br />
>>>> despite what some think &#8211; taxes don&#8217;t go into a black hole and exit the<br />
>>>> economy.<br />
>><br />
>>>> Taxes pay people for work. It buys infrastructure and durable things<br />
>>>> like vehicles and  buildings&#8230; and humvees and body armor.<br />
>><br />
>>>> ALL of these things put money back into the economy.<br />
>><br />
>>>> The basic argument is &#8211; should we tax people to pay for body armor or<br />
>>>> should we let people keep that money and spend it on a big screen TV?<br />
>><br />
>>>> the narrative that taxes &#8220;destroy&#8221; the economy is more BS from those who<br />
>>>> just don&#8217;t like the idea of taxes.<br />
>><br />
>>> Yup.<br />
>><br />
>> What product does a government employee produce?<br />
>><br />
>> GDP refers to &#8220;Producing&#8221;<br />
>><br />
>> The economy is measured by it being productive.<br />
><br />
> a govt employee can and is a part of the logistics chain that<br />
> does&#8230;for instance.. procure body armor and make sure it get to the<br />
> war fighter&#8230;</p>
<p>And so you say Government is a consumer?</p>
<p>Except that when I &#8220;steal&#8221; $10.00 from you and then come to your yard<br />
sale the next morning and buy a CD for $10.00 then you say I have<br />
stimulated your economic standing?</p>
<p>Could you explain how you are better off?</p>
<p></rally></wat></rally></mik></then>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 7/27/2010 7:06 PM, Michael Coburn wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:31:48 -0700, Larry G wrote: > >> On Jul 27, 1:36 pm, Michael Coburn wrote: >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:34:32 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 7/27/2010 12:51 AM, Michael Coburn wrote: >>>>> [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/27/2010 7:06 PM, Michael Coburn wrote:<br />
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:31:48 -0700, Larry G wrote:<br />
><br />
>> On Jul 27, 1:36 pm, Michael Coburn <mik ...@verizon.net> wrote:<br />
>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:34:32 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>><br />
>>>> On 7/27/2010 12:51 AM, Michael Coburn wrote:<br />
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:53:39 -0400, Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>> On 7/26/2010 9:28 PM, Michael Coburn wrote:<br />
>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:22:47 -0700, Larry G wrote:<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>> On Jul 25, 9:27 pm, Dave Head <rally ...@att.net> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:13:26 -0500, &#8220;bugo&#8221; <wat ...@yahoo.com><br />
>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br />
>>>>>>>>>> &#8220;Dave Head&#8221; <rally ...@att.net> wrote in message<br />
>>>>>>>>>> news:bhnp46teki6ftfe9lco9p88sg7a567u28m<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com&#8230;<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> The Fair Tax is applied as a sales tax on new items and<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> services sold at retail.  Things sold at wholesale, or for use<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> in commerce, are not taxed.  So, Farmer Brown&#8217;s seed stock for<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> the year is not taxed, nor is his tractor.  The corn you buy<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> from him is taxed since it is sold to you at retail.  Every<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> new item and every service, save one, is taxed.  The only<br />
>>>>>>>>>>> service not taxed is tuition.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> So corporations get off scot-free.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> They always have.  No corporation has ever paid a penny of tax.<br />
>>>>>>>>> They&#8217;ve just passed that expense along to the rest of us who buy<br />
>>>>>>>>> their products, and we pay it.  THe corporation simply ends up<br />
>>>>>>>>> being a tax collector, to the detriment of Ameican industrial<br />
>>>>>>>>> competitiveness.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> No wonder why you corporate-loving Repubs like it so much.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> Why would you not be &#8220;corporate-loving.&#8221;  Where else do you<br />
>>>>>>>>> think you&#8217;re going to get the good jobs to raise people out of<br />
>>>>>>>>> poverty?<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>>>> In your distorted world, corporations can do no wrong.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>>> Didn&#8217;t say that, but that&#8217;s no reason to hate them all because<br />
>>>>>>>>> some of them do really nasty stuff.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>>> corps just pass on the taxes to the customers&#8230; that&#8217;s true.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>>> Nope.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>>> Explain what source the corporation&#8217;s tax money comes from if it<br />
>>>>>> isn&#8217;t coming from the customer.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>> The increased payments to the government are taken from what would<br />
>>>>> have been paid out as dividends and/or the value of the stock takes<br />
>>>>> a hit. IN<br />
>>><br />
>>>> This would be a confession that *taxes kill growth* and the<br />
>>>> *business* *shrinks* as the value of the company takes a hit from<br />
>>>> higher taxes?<br />
>>><br />
>>> That is, of course, a lie.  It is a fact that taxes will not &#8220;kill<br />
>>> growth&#8221; if properly applied.  Even in the current system the value of<br />
>>> LARGE companies take a greater hit than small companies from increases<br />
>>> in corporate tax rates.<br />
>>><br />
>>>> Which means your past Leftist rhetoric about taxes helping business<br />
>>>> and consumers was a lie.<br />
>>><br />
>>> It means that you will now resort to lying about what I have said. I<br />
>>> have said that the actual burden of the tax depends on elasticicities<br />
>>> and on how the proceeds of the tax are applied.<br />
>>><br />
>>>> The problem with your assumption is that the people running the<br />
>>>> business cut their overhead(usually trim labor costs) to offset the<br />
>>>> new taxes. That in turn hurts the workers and the consumers that may<br />
>>>> see the new tax partly passed on in the higher price. Cut a little<br />
>>>> raise the price a little, and the corporation stays competitive and<br />
>>>> doesn&#8217;t take a hit.<br />
>>><br />
>>> You just repeat the same pig <acronym title="shit"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> s&*$?%t</span></acronym> over and over again.  And the _FACT_<br />
>>> is that if the company could get along with less labor expense and/or<br />
>>> charging consumers more then that is what the profit maximizing<br />
>>> corporation would have done _ALREADY_.  The companies are not &#8220;waiting&#8221;<br />
>>> for a tax increase to _allow_ profit maximization.  That claim is<br />
>>> ludicrous.<br />
>>><br />
>>>>> either case, the corporation eats the tax and the customers pay the<br />
>>>>> same amount as before for the same product or service.<br />
>>><br />
>>>> You never ran a successful business!<br />
>>><br />
>>> I ran my own business for 30 years, liar.<br />
>>><br />
>>> &#8211;<br />
>>> &#8220;Senate rules don&#8217;t trump the Constitution&#8221;<br />
>>> &#8211;http://GreaterVoice.org/60<br />
>><br />
>> despite what some think &#8211; taxes don&#8217;t go into a black hole and exit the<br />
>> economy.<br />
>><br />
>> Taxes pay people for work. It buys infrastructure and durable things<br />
>> like vehicles and  buildings&#8230; and humvees and body armor.<br />
>><br />
>> ALL of these things put money back into the economy.<br />
>><br />
>> The basic argument is &#8211; should we tax people to pay for body armor or<br />
>> should we let people keep that money and spend it on a big screen TV?<br />
>><br />
>> the narrative that taxes &#8220;destroy&#8221; the economy is more BS from those who<br />
>> just don&#8217;t like the idea of taxes.<br />
><br />
> Yup.</p>
<p>What product does a government employee produce?</p>
<p>GDP refers to &#8220;Producing&#8221;</p>
<p>The economy is measured by it being productive.</p>
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		<title>The Right Wing Obviously Doesn&#8217;t Give A Shit About The Deficit</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 7/14/2010 1:50 PM, Kickin&#8217; A&#038;*$?%s and Takin&#8217; Names wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:11:48 -0400, H&#038;*$?%e > wrote: > >> >> http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/07/conservatives-dont-care-about-the-deficit-4/ >> >> July 14th, 2010 >> >> Conservatives Don’t Care About the Deficit >> >> &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; >> >> It’s the persistent refusal of the journalistic class to internalize >> the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/14/2010 1:50 PM, Kickin&#8217; <acronym title="Ass"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> A&*$?%s</span></acronym> and Takin&#8217; Names wrote:<br />
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:11:48 -0400, <acronym title="Harry Hope"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> H&*$?%e</span></acronym> <rivrvu @ix.netcom.com><br />
> wrote:<br />
><br />
>><br />
>> <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/07/conservatives-dont-care-about-the-deficit-4/" >http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/07/conservatives-dont-care-about-the-deficit-4/</a><br />
>><br />
>> July 14th, 2010<br />
>><br />
>> Conservatives Don’t Care About the Deficit<br />
>><br />
>> &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
>><br />
>> It’s the persistent refusal of the journalistic class to internalize<br />
>> the fact that the conservative movement in America doesn’t care about<br />
>> the budget deficit.<br />
>><br />
>> It’s not that they sometimes care more about other things.<br />
>><br />
>> Or that they care less than they should.<br />
>><br />
>> Or that they’re hypocrites on occasion.<br />
>><br />
>> It’s that they don’t care about it at all.<br />
>><br />
>> Not even a little.<br />
>><br />
>> Indeed, they’re opposed in principle to deficit reduction.<br />
>><br />
>> The conservative movement has more record of boosting foreign aid to<br />
>> sub-Saharan Africa than it does to deficit reduction.<br />
>><br />
>> &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
>><br />
>> To recap the key points:<br />
>><br />
>> 1) There have been two presidents who were members of the modern<br />
>> conservative movement, Ronald Reagan and George W Bush, and they both<br />
>> presided over massive increases in both present and projected<br />
>> deficits.<br />
>><br />
>> 2) The major deficit reduction packages of the modern era, in 1990 and<br />
>> 1993, were both uniformly opposed by the conservative movement.<br />
>><br />
>> 3) When the deficit was temporarily eliminated in the late-1990s, the<br />
>> mainstream conservative view was that this showed that the deficit was<br />
>> too low and needed to be increased via large tax cuts.<br />
>><br />
>> 4) Senator Mitch McConnell says it’s a uniform view in his caucus that<br />
>> tax cuts needn’t be offset by other changes in spending.<br />
>><br />
>> 5) The deficit reduction commission is having trouble because they<br />
>> think conservative politicians won’t vote for any form of tax<br />
>> increase.<br />
>> <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/07/debt-commission-eying-mostly-cuts-package/" >http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/07/debt-commission-eying-mostly-cuts-package/</a><br />
>><br />
>> In sum, there are zero historical examples of conservatives mobilizing<br />
>> to make the deficit smaller.<br />
>><br />
>> What is true is that most conservatives oppose increases in<br />
>> non-military spending when those increases are proposed by Democratic<br />
>> presidents.<br />
>><br />
>> A minority of conservatives are more consistent opponents of increases<br />
>> in non-military spending.<br />
>><br />
>> But the key element of conservative fiscal policy is that tax revenue<br />
>> as a percent of GDP should be made as low as possible.<br />
>><br />
>> This isn’t a goal they pursue that stands in some kind of balance with<br />
>> concern about the deficit, it’s the only goal they pursue.<br />
>><br />
>> You can like that or not, but every single journalist who writes<br />
>> articles about the deficit debate that doesn’t highlight the<br />
>> conservative movement’s deep, decades-long hostility to deficit<br />
>> reduction is being grossly irresponsible.<br />
>><br />
>> __________________________________________________<br />
>><br />
>> Harry<br />
><br />
><br />
> &#8220;Deficits don&#8217;t matter,&#8221; <acronym title="Dick"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> D&*$?%k</span></acronym> Cheney.</p>
<p>&#8220;<acronym title="Dick"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> D&*$?%k</span></acronym> Cheney doesn&#8217;t matter&#8221;  &#8211; Beam Me Up Scotty 2010 -</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 7/13/2010 4:13 AM, Ray Fischer wrote: > Harry Hype wrote: >> THE RECESSION IS OVER! THE RECESSION IS OVER! >> NY Times: &#8220;End of Census, and for Many, End of Job&#8221; > > The rightard cheers. Government spending also drops as they pay fewer people&#8230;. That&#8217;s something to cheer, the government needs to spend [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/13/2010 4:13 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:<br />
> Harry Hype  <harryhype @excite.com> wrote:<br />
>> THE RECESSION IS OVER!  THE RECESSION IS OVER!<br />
>> NY Times: &#8220;End of Census, and for Many, End of Job&#8221;<br />
><br />
> The rightard cheers.</p>
<p>Government spending also drops as they pay fewer people&#8230;.  That&#8217;s<br />
something to cheer, the government needs to spend less and needs to be<br />
smaller and less intrusive into my life.  I am cheering for every<br />
government worker that is at the end of their job and they JOIN me<br />
working in the Private sector.</p>
<p>In the Private sector we Actually create &#8220;real GDP&#8221; rather than phony<br />
GDP like the government creates.  Real GDP will help the economy, phony<br />
GDP will make thing worse, so every Government worker that loses their<br />
job actually helps the Nation recover and the economy get stronger.</p>
<p>There is something to cheer about.</p>
<p></harryhype></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 7/13/2010 4:13 AM, Ray Fischer wrote: > Harry Hype wrote: >> THE RECESSION IS OVER! THE RECESSION IS OVER! >> NY Times: &#8220;End of Census, and for Many, End of Job&#8221; > > The rightard cheers. Government spending also drops as they pay fewer people&#8230;. That&#8217;s something to cheer, the government needs to spend [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/13/2010 4:13 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:<br />
> Harry Hype  <harryhype @excite.com> wrote:<br />
>> THE RECESSION IS OVER!  THE RECESSION IS OVER!<br />
>> NY Times: &#8220;End of Census, and for Many, End of Job&#8221;<br />
><br />
> The rightard cheers.</p>
<p>Government spending also drops as they pay fewer people&#8230;.  That&#8217;s<br />
something to cheer, the government needs to spend less and needs to be<br />
smaller and less intrusive into my life.  I am cheering for every<br />
government worker that is at the end of their job and they JOIN me<br />
working in the Private sector.</p>
<p>In the Private sector we Actually create &#8220;real GDP&#8221; rather than phony<br />
GDP like the government creates.  Real GDP will help the economy, phony<br />
GDP will make thing worse, so every Government worker that loses their<br />
job actually helps the Nation recover and the economy get stronger.</p>
<p>There is something to cheer about.</p>
<p></harryhype></p>
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		<title>Sticking the public with the bill for thebankersA(C)E? crisis</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 03:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 7/4/2010 4:36 PM, R&#038;*$?%d wrote: > James A. Donald wrote: >> Michael Price wrote > >>> So it&#8217;s not the fault that they made stupid decisions? Or >>> decisions that benefited them at the expense of the rest? > >> Investing in an expensive house, no money down, obviously >> benefits the recipient &#8211; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 7/4/2010 4:36 PM, <acronym title="Rod Speed"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> R&*$?%d</span></acronym> wrote:<br />
> James A. Donald wrote:<br />
>> Michael Price <nini_pad @yahoo.com> wrote<br />
><br />
>>> So it&#8217;s not the fault that they made stupid decisions?  Or<br />
>>> decisions that benefited them at the expense of the rest?<br />
><br />
>> Investing in an expensive house, no money down, obviously<br />
>> benefits the recipient &#8211; heads he wins, tails the bank loses.</p>
<p>The only people that win are the Politicians, they count the house as<br />
&#8220;GDP&#8221; and tell you that thing are going great.</p>
<p></nini_pad></p>
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		<title>Re: Bloomberg &#8211; U.S. DEBT TO OVERTAKE GDP IN 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#62; In article , &#62; &#8220;harmony&#8221; posted: &#62; &#62;&#62; Dr. Jai Maharaj posted: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; Bloomberg: US Debt to Overtake GDP in 2012 &#62;&#62;&#62; . . . &#62; &#62;&#62; so usa is going bust in 2012. &#62;&#62; that&#8217;s when obama will be finished. &#62;&#62; obama bomb will be worse than osama can ever hope to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; In article ,<br />
&gt;  &#8220;harmony&#8221;  posted:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bloomberg: US Debt to Overtake GDP in 2012<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;  . . .<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; so usa is going bust in 2012.<br />
&gt;&gt; that&#8217;s when obama will be finished.<br />
&gt;&gt; obama bomb will be worse than osama can ever hope to accomplish. </p>
<p>Obama is the illegitimate son of Osama&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Re: THE RECESSION IS OVER! THE RECESSION IS OVER! (May 28 (Bloomberg)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/31/2010 2:58 PM, Jane Galt wrote: &#62; Clairbear wrote : &#62; &#62;&#62; rfischer @&#038;*$?%sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c01b6fd$0$1591 &#62;&#62; $742ec2ed @&#038;*$?%news.sonic.net: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; Clairbear wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; rfischer @&#038;*$?%sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; Shrikeback wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On May 29, 10:45 am, &#8220;Sid9&#8243; wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; A LOT better than anything bush,jr gave us! [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/31/2010 2:58 PM, Jane Galt wrote:<br />
&gt; Clairbear   wrote :<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; rfischer<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in news:4c01b6fd$0$1591<br />
&gt;&gt; $742ec2ed<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>news.sonic.net:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Clairbear   wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; rfischer<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Shrikeback   wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On May 29, 10:45 am, &#8220;Sid9&#8243;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A LOT better than anything bush,jr gave us!<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Uh huh.  The GDP was growing,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just like now, dumbass rightard<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And unemployment is 9.9% and rising<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Wrong, dumbass rightard.  The unemployment RATE is 9.9% thanks to<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bush, but employment happens to be rising.<br />
&gt;&gt; gee it has been Obama&#8217;s ecomy for 16 months and you still want blame bush<br />
&gt;&gt; for all the bad and give Obama credit for all the good. YOU CAN&#8221;T HAVE IT<br />
&gt;&gt; BOTH WAYS you silly hypocrite<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Bush has become the Progressives universal lifelong scapgoat, which is ironic<br />
&gt; being he turned out to be almost like them.<br />
&gt;</p>
<p>They eat their own&#8230;..</p>
<p>&gt; &#8220;I&#8217;ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system,&#8221;<br />
&gt; &#8212; President GW Bush</p>
<p>That describes his over all political life, he betrayed everything he<br />
ever said to get what he said he wanted.</p>
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		<title>Re: BP Declares War on Oil (will they need much oil to fight it?)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 00:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/20/2010 7:43 PM, Immortalist wrote: &#62; With The War on Cancer, The War on Christmas, The War on Drugs, The &#62; War on Poverty, The War on Terrorism, we add The BP War on Oil. &#62; &#62; If BP wins will they go out of business and if they lose will they &#62; make [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/20/2010 7:43 PM, Immortalist wrote:<br />
&gt; With The War on Cancer, The War on Christmas, The War on Drugs, The<br />
&gt; War on Poverty, The War on Terrorism, we add The BP War on Oil.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; If BP wins will they go out of business and if they lose will they<br />
&gt; make a profit. I heard the noises on the radio today sounding out some<br />
&gt; BP officials declaring wars or something.<br />
&gt; </p>
<p>war on the sea turtles&#8230;.</p>
<p>You know every dead manatee will cost BP more than our GDP.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<title>Re: &#8220;Our debt is growing faster then our GDP.&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 04:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/14/2010 10:49 PM, Ron Peterson wrote: &#62; On May 14, 7:31 pm, Michael Coburn wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; If we must cut imports using tariffs in order to protect Americans then &#62;&#62; so be it. &#62; &#62; The VAT is a better option because it allows trade with other &#62; countries without capricious tariffs. A [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/14/2010 10:49 PM, Ron Peterson wrote:<br />
&gt; On May 14, 7:31 pm, Michael Coburn  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; If we must cut imports using tariffs in order to protect Americans then<br />
&gt;&gt; so be it.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The VAT is a better option because it allows trade with other<br />
&gt; countries without capricious tariffs. A VAT would cover oil imports,<br />
&gt; but congress would never put a tariff on it.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; &#8211;<br />
&gt;    Ron</p>
<p>What do you need a VAT to pay for?</p>
<p>Why NOT just quit spending more than the Government takes in?</p>
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		<title>Re: Our Dept is Growing faster than GDP</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/13/2010 1:12 AM, Möebius Pretzel wrote: &#62; Peter Schiff on CNBC Fast Money: &#8220;Our Dept is Growing faster than GDP&#8221; &#62; &#62; http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=11837 And Social Security is sucking up Federal income taxes since the Social security tax no longer pays for Social Security and all the money in the Social Security *LOCK BOX* is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/13/2010 1:12 AM, Möebius Pretzel wrote:<br />
&gt; Peter Schiff on CNBC Fast Money: &#8220;Our Dept is Growing faster than GDP&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=11837</p>
<p>And Social Security is sucking up Federal income taxes since the Social<br />
security tax no longer pays for Social Security and all the money in the<br />
Social Security *LOCK BOX* is NOT there, it&#8217;s already been spent by<br />
Congress and Bush and Obama.</p>
<p>That money &#8220;Borrowed&#8221; from the Social Security Lock box is *MORE_DEBT*</p>
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		<title>Re: Poll: 75% Blame George W. Bush for Current State of Economy.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/11/2010 1:09 AM, Ray Fischer wrote: &#62; Can You Hear Us Now wrote: &#62;&#62; On 5/9/2010 4:07 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62; On 5/9/2010 11:35 AM, Can You Hear Us Now wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On 5/9/2010 1:43 PM, Rush&#8217;sButtBoy wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; TGBD &#8211; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; &#8220;THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION&#8221; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; IS ALREADY HEADING &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/11/2010 1:09 AM, Ray Fischer wrote:<br />
&gt; Can You Hear Us Now   wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; On 5/9/2010 4:07 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 5/9/2010 11:35 AM, Can You Hear Us Now wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 5/9/2010 1:43 PM, Rush&#8217;sButtBoy wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; TGBD &#8211;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8220;THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION&#8221;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; IS ALREADY HEADING<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; INTO A DOUBLE-DIPPER!<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; You mean Obama took a recession and turned it into a DEPRESSION.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; No, he means that Obama rescued the country from a *NEAR-DEPRESSION*. In<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; case you missed it, the recession is over.  GDP growth has been positive<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; for *three* straight quarters (beginning with the quarter that started<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; only *five* months after Obama took office) and job growth has resumed.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; GDP is Government Dept. of Propaganda&#8230;.   Government Spending is &#8220;in&#8221;<br />
&gt;&gt; the GDP, and guess who swindled us for about $6 Trillion dollars in the<br />
&gt;&gt; last 18 months?<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; You really are quite crazy.<br />
&gt; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also right!</p>
<p>Who said crazy people are always wrong, was that you?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/7/2010 9:00 AM, H&#038;*$?%e wrote: &#62; &#62; From Bloomberg, 5/7/10: &#62; http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&#38;sid=aLnPxi_sXflg &#62; &#62; By Timothy R. Homan &#62; &#62; May 7 (Bloomberg) &#8211; &#62; &#62; Employment in the U.S. increased in April by the most in four years &#62; and the unemployment rate unexpectedly rose as thousands of people &#62; entered the labor [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/7/2010 9:00 AM, <acronym title="Harry Hope"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> H&*$?%e</span></acronym> wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; From Bloomberg, 5/7/10:<br />
&gt; http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&amp;sid=aLnPxi_sXflg<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; By Timothy R. Homan<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; May 7 (Bloomberg) &#8211;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Employment in the U.S. increased in April by the most in four years<br />
&gt; and the unemployment rate unexpectedly rose as thousands of people<br />
&gt; entered the labor force, indicating the recovery is becoming<br />
&gt; self-sustaining.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Payrolls jumped 290,000 last month, more than the median estimate of<br />
&gt; economists surveyed by Bloomberg News, after a revised 230,000<br />
&gt; increase in March that was larger than initially estimated, figures<br />
&gt; from the Labor Department in Washington showed today.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The April gain included 66,000 temporary workers hired by the<br />
&gt; government to help conduct the 2010 census and a 231,000 rise in<br />
&gt; private payrolls.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Companies such as General Electric Co. are boosting staff as sales<br />
&gt; improve, leading to income gains that may spur consumer spending and<br />
&gt; more hiring.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; At the same time, unemployment may take time to recede as Americans<br />
&gt; who had dropped out of the workforce resume the job hunt, one reason<br />
&gt; why the Federal Reserve says it will keep interest rates low.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; “The private sector is improving and job growth is picking up,” Julia<br />
&gt; Coronado, a senior U.S. economist at BNP Paribas in New York, said<br />
&gt; before the report.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; “The job growth will be enough to keep us on a pretty decent growth<br />
&gt; track.”<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Stock-index futures maintained gains and Treasury securities fell<br />
&gt; after the report. Futures on the Standard &amp; Poor’s 500 Index expiring<br />
&gt; in June increased 0.5 percent to 1,128 at 8:37 a.m. in New York.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The 10-year Treasury note declined, pushing up the yield to 3.47<br />
&gt; percent from 3.4 percent late yesterday.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 		Manufacturers and Services<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Manufacturers added the most workers to payrolls since August 1998,<br />
&gt; employment at service-providers rose the most since November 2006 and<br />
&gt; construction companies hired for a second straight month.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The gain in overall employment in April was the biggest since March<br />
&gt; 2006.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Overall payrolls were forecast to increase by 190,000, according to<br />
&gt; the median estimate of 84 economists surveyed by Bloomberg. Estimates<br />
&gt; ranged from gains of 75,000 to 300,000.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The improving economic data is one reason the Greek debt crisis is<br />
&gt; unlikely to derail the U.S. economic recovery, according to economists<br />
&gt; like James O’Sullivan.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; “Growth data has been heading upward into the crisis in the U.S. and<br />
&gt; globally,” O’Sullivan, chief economist at MF Global Ltd. in New York,<br />
&gt; said before the report.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; “That is a very powerful force to counter the headwinds from the<br />
&gt; problems in Europe.”<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 		Stocks Yesterday<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged as much as 998.5 points, or<br />
&gt; 9.2 percent, before paring its drop to 347.8 points at the close of<br />
&gt; trading in New York yesterday. It ended the day at 10,520.32, a<br />
&gt; two-month low. The S&amp;P 500 fell 3.2 percent to 1,128.15.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The jobless rate was projected to hold at 9.7 percent.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Forecasts ranged from 9.5 percent to 9.8 percent.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The unemployment rate rose as more people entered the workforce.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The figures showed an 805,000 increase in the civilian labor force and<br />
&gt; employment rose by 550,000.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The gain in private payrolls was the fourth in a row and followed a<br />
&gt; 174,000 increase in March that may have reflected, in part, a<br />
&gt; weather-related rebound from the prior month.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Private employment was projected to climb by 100,000, according to the<br />
&gt; median of 25 forecasts.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; A government boost to hiring is already under way at the Census<br />
&gt; Bureau.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The agency said it will take on about 970,000 temporary workers from<br />
&gt; April through June to conduct the population count that occurs every<br />
&gt; 10 years.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 		April and May<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The government program may have the biggest impact on payroll figures<br />
&gt; in April and May, when the bulk of the hiring will take place, and<br />
&gt; will then subtract from the job count the following months as<br />
&gt; employees are dismissed after the work is done.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; For that reason, economists will be excluding workers on public<br />
&gt; payrolls for much of the rest of the year in gauging the state of the<br />
&gt; labor market.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Average hourly earnings rose to $22.47 in April from $22.46 in March,<br />
&gt; today’s report showed.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Today’s report from the Labor Department showed that government<br />
&gt; payrolls increased by 59,000 in April. State and local governments<br />
&gt; reduced employment by 6,000 during the month, while the federal<br />
&gt; government added 65,000.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The average work week for all workers rose to 34.1 hours in April, the<br />
&gt; highest since January 2009, from 34 hours the prior month.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 		Underemployment Rate<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The so-called underemployment rate &#8212; which includes part- time<br />
&gt; workers who’d prefer a full-time position and people who want work but<br />
&gt; have given up looking &#8212; increased to 17.1 percent from 16.9 percent.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The report also showed an increase in long-term unemployed Americans.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The number of people unemployed for 27 weeks or more rose as a<br />
&gt; percentage of all jobless, to a record 45.9 percent.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Factory payrolls surged 44,000 in April after rising 19,000 in the<br />
&gt; prior month.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The median forecast by economists in the Bloomberg survey called for a<br />
&gt; gain of 20,000.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Payrolls at builders increased 14,000 last month after gaining 26,000.<br />
&gt; Service providers added 225,000 workers after an increase of 175,000<br />
&gt; in March.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The number of temporary workers increased 26,200 in April.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Payrolls at temporary-help agencies often turn up before total<br />
&gt; employment because companies prefer to see a steady increase in demand<br />
&gt; before taking on permanent staff.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 		Hiring at GE<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Some companies are seeing enough improvement in sales to warrant<br />
&gt; increasing headcount. GE, the world’s largest maker of jet engines,<br />
&gt; power-generation equipment and locomotives, increased the number of<br />
&gt; jobs it plans to add in Michigan to more than 1,300 with the creation<br />
&gt; of about 220 aerospace manufacturing positions, the Fairfield,<br />
&gt; Connecticut-based company said this week.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Billionaire Warren Buffett, whose Berkshire Hathaway Inc. cut more<br />
&gt; than 20,000 jobs last year, said his Omaha, Nebraska- based company is<br />
&gt; now adding staff as the economic recovery boosts demand at its<br />
&gt; industrial units.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; “We do hire people when we have something for them to do,” Buffett<br />
&gt; told investors last week in Omaha, Nebraska, where Berkshire held its<br />
&gt; annual shareholders’ meeting.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; “We are a net hirer now.”<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The economy grew at a 3.2 percent annual rate in the first three<br />
&gt; months of the year, the third quarterly advance, according to data<br />
&gt; from the Commerce Department released last week.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; ______________________________________________________<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Harry</p>
<p>Government spending has grown at more than 3.2% and government spending<br />
&#8220;is&#8221; in the GDP formula&#8230;.   This means that for each dollar of<br />
government spending we get less than a dollar of GDP.  Government<br />
spending is up 300% to 400% above Bush years.</p>
<p>Not only are we not growing the private sector but YOU Leftists are<br />
wasting the money the government is stealing from the private sector.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/9/2010 4:07 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote: &#62; On 5/9/2010 11:35 AM, Can You Hear Us Now wrote: &#62;&#62; On 5/9/2010 1:43 PM, Rush&#8217;sButtBoy wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62; TGBD &#8211; &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; &#8220;THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION&#8221; &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; IS ALREADY HEADING &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; INTO A DOUBLE-DIPPER! &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; You mean Obama took a recession and turned [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/9/2010 4:07 PM, Lamont Cranston wrote:<br />
&gt; On 5/9/2010 11:35 AM, Can You Hear Us Now wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; On 5/9/2010 1:43 PM, Rush&#8217;sButtBoy wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; TGBD &#8211;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8220;THE GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION&#8221;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; IS ALREADY HEADING<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; INTO A DOUBLE-DIPPER!<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; You mean Obama took a recession and turned it into a DEPRESSION.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; No, he means that Obama rescued the country from a *NEAR-DEPRESSION*. In<br />
&gt; case you missed it, the recession is over.  GDP growth has been positive<br />
&gt; for *three* straight quarters (beginning with the quarter that started<br />
&gt; only *five* months after Obama took office) and job growth has resumed.</p>
<p> GDP is Government Dept. of Propaganda&#8230;.   Government Spending is &#8220;in&#8221;<br />
the GDP, and guess who swindled us for about $6 Trillion dollars in the<br />
last 18 months?</p>
<p> Government spending is the GDP, all others in the private Sector are<br />
cutting and NOT expanding and any profit taken is at the expense of the<br />
economy and not to our gain&#8230;..</p>
<p> A company with 100 workers fires 99 last month, then you say things are<br />
better this month because the owners fired only the last one person and<br />
locked the doors.</p>
<p> Fewer people lost their jobs and one less company is reporting a<br />
loss&#8230;.  Thing sure look better.</p>
<p> I just heard a news spot that tried to use one of your analogies that<br />
things were better because more people were *Moving*  yet they ignore<br />
the FACT that more people are being moved out by the Sheriff due to<br />
foreclosures.</p>
<p> That sure makes things look good, this is your Leftist morons using<br />
numbers with no context in a short propaganda blurb to try to get the<br />
idiot masses to believe that a 1000 point drop in the market was a fat<br />
finger mistake and the economy is just humming right along.</p>
<p> We are in the toilet and Greece and the others are going to pave the<br />
way to the future, but even if we give them all the American taxpayers<br />
money and they survive, we won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/3/2010 5:27 PM, H&#038;*$?%e wrote: &#62; &#62; &#62; From The Washington Post, 5/3/10: &#62; http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2010/05/march_construction_spending_su.html &#62; &#62; March construction spending surges, business purchases rise &#62; &#62; March construction spending rose more than expected and business &#62; purchasing hit its highest level since summer 2004, according to data &#62; released moments ago. &#62; &#62; March [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/3/2010 5:27 PM, <acronym title="Harry Hope"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> H&*$?%e</span></acronym> wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; From The Washington Post, 5/3/10:<br />
&gt; http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2010/05/march_construction_spending_su.html<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; March construction spending surges, business purchases rise<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; March construction spending rose more than expected and business<br />
&gt; purchasing hit its highest level since summer 2004, according to data<br />
&gt; released moments ago.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; March construction spending rose 0.2 percent, surprising forecasters<br />
&gt; who expected a 0.2 percent decline.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; That in itself would have been good news, because in February,<br />
&gt; construction spending contracted at a rate of 1.3 percent.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; A rise in construction spending means increased activity for<br />
&gt; associated businesses, including the Home Depots of the economy.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Also, the Institute for Supply Management index &#8212; which tracks<br />
&gt; business purchasing in the U.S. and is seen as one gauge of economic<br />
&gt; activity &#8212; rose from 59.6 in February to 60.4 in March, hitting its<br />
&gt; highest mark in six years.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; This means businesses are beginning to buy all the goods that<br />
&gt; manufacturers cranked out in the fourth quarter of 2009, raising the<br />
&gt; GDP.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The markets are responding favorably to this news and to the consumer<br />
&gt; spending data from this morning.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; _______________________________________________________<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Harry<br />
is that why the market dropped 200 points in two days?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/1/2010 1:30 AM, retrogrouch wrote: &#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; Now we call it propaganda&#8230;. Government spending is growing and GDP is &#62;&#62; now mostly Government spending. &#62; &#62; &#62; Actually you are wrong yet again. Gee bi surprise. &#62; &#62; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/1/2010 1:30 AM, retrogrouch wrote:<br />
&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Now we call it propaganda&#8230;.  Government spending is growing and GDP is<br />
&gt;&gt; now mostly Government spending.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Actually you are wrong yet again. Gee bi surprise.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Government spending is down. Has been the last two quarters. </p>
<p> Where did that 3 &#8211; 6 trillion we gave Obama in the last year and a half<br />
go, if he isn&#8217;t spending it?  Another question is &#8220;HOW IS THE GOVERNMENT<br />
DEFICIT RISING TO A TRILLION DOLLARS FOR AS FAR OUT AS CAN BE PREDICTED&#8221;<br />
if government is spending less?  Just answer a few of these questions<br />
here.</p>
<p> I guess I want my Tax money back since trillions are just stuffed in<br />
Obama&#8217;s White House Mattress&#8230;.  Either Obama is hiding it and it&#8217;s NOT<br />
helping the economy, or he&#8217;s actually stealing it and funneling it to<br />
the Democrat/Leftist groups and again it&#8217;s NOT helping the economy&#8230;.<br />
Government Spending has to be up 50% &#8211; 150% since Obama&#8217;s budget and<br />
money given to him by congress is at least 50% to 150% more than Bush.</p>
<p> Fudging the numbers to hide government waste is a bit silly, we gave<br />
him the money, it&#8217;s being spent&#8230;. the only question &#8220;is where&#8221;?  On<br />
the Books you may see the spending doing almost anything but once you<br />
look at it without the *GOVERNMENT BEER GOGGLES* on, you see that<br />
*$Trillions_in* equals *trillions_out&#8230;.*  We gave the money to<br />
government and unless it&#8217;s in a mattress in the White House you and your<br />
numbers are lying.</p>
<p> So your Statement is something a &#8220;retarded Democrat&#8221;, as Rahm Emanuel<br />
called you, would spew!</p>
<p> Rahm may have uttered the only truth I have ever heard coming from a<br />
Leftist when he called Democrats Retarded.   I know he had to apologize<br />
for insinuating Retards by saying Retarded people are as inept and<br />
useless as a Democrat but I imagine Rahm really means Democrats are<br />
DUMBER THAN(Less Able Than) the retarded.   He must have been looking<br />
for a whole new class of idiocy.  To describe your kind.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/1/2010 1:30 AM, retrogrouch wrote: &#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; Now we call it propaganda&#8230;. Government spending is growing and GDP is &#62;&#62; now mostly Government spending. &#62; &#62; &#62; Actually you are wrong yet again. Gee bi surprise. &#62; &#62; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/1/2010 1:30 AM, retrogrouch wrote:<br />
&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Now we call it propaganda&#8230;.  Government spending is growing and GDP is<br />
&gt;&gt; now mostly Government spending.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Actually you are wrong yet again. Gee bi surprise.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Government spending is down. Has been the last two quarters. </p>
<p>Where did that 3 &#8211; 6 trillion we gave Obama in the last year if he isn&#8217;t<br />
spending it?   I guess I want it back since trillions are just stuffed<br />
in his White House Mattress&#8230;.</p>
<p>Fudging the numbers to hide government waste is a bit silly, we gave him<br />
the money, it&#8217;s being spent the only question is where?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/1/2010 1:30 AM, retrogrouch wrote: &#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; Now we call it propaganda&#8230;. Government spending is growing and GDP is &#62;&#62; now mostly Government spending. &#62; &#62; &#62; Actually you are wrong yet again. Gee bi surprise. &#62; &#62; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/1/2010 1:30 AM, retrogrouch wrote:<br />
&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:07:17 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Now we call it propaganda&#8230;.  Government spending is growing and GDP is<br />
&gt;&gt; now mostly Government spending.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Actually you are wrong yet again. Gee bi surprise.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Government spending is down. Has been the last two quarters.<br />
&gt; Your ignorance and spin knows no bounds.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; http://www.briefing.com/Investor/Public/Calendars/EconomicReleases/gdp.htm<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Category 	Q1 	2009 Q4 	2009 Q3 	2009 Q2 2009<br />
&gt; Q1<br />
&gt; GDP 	3.2% 	5.6% 	2.2% 	-0.7% 	-6.4%<br />
&gt; Inventories (change) 	$31.1B 	-$19.7B 	-$139.2B -$160.2B<br />
&gt; -$113.9B<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Final Sales 	1.6% 	1.7% 	1.5% 	0.7% 	-4.1%<br />
&gt; PCE 	3.6% 	1.6% 	2.8% 	-0.9% 	0.6%<br />
&gt; Nonresidential Inv. 	4.0% 	5.3% 	-5.9% 	-9.6% 	-39.2%<br />
&gt; Structures 	-14.0% 	-18.1% 	-18.4% 	-17.3% 	-43.6%<br />
&gt; Equipment &amp; Software 	13.4% 	19.0% 	1.5% 	-4.9% 	-36.4%<br />
&gt; Residential Inv. 	-10.9% 	3.7% 	18.9% 	-23.3% 	-38.2%<br />
&gt;  Net Exports 	-$367.0B 	-$348.0B 	-$357.4B -$330.4B<br />
&gt; -$378.5B<br />
&gt;      Export 	5.8% 	22.8% 	17.8% 	-4.1% 	-29.9%<br />
&gt;      Imports 	8.9% 	15.8% 	21.3% 	-14.7% 	-36.4%<br />
&gt;    Government 	-1.8% 	-1.3% 	2.6% 	6.7% 	-2.6%<br />
&gt; GDP Price Index 	0.9% 	0.5% 	0.4% 	0.0% 	1.9%</p>
<p>You <acronym title="asshole"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> a&*$?%e</span></acronym>, when you raise government spending 9.3% in six months&#8230;.</p>
<p>Unless you lower it more than 9.3% in the last six months you had<br />
increased spending&#8230;..</p>
<p>Then&#8230; The Private sector isn&#8217;t getting better it&#8217;s the Government<br />
that&#8217;s manipulating the numbers&#8230;.  Obama prints money and spends/loans<br />
it and they call it GROWTH, government taxes and then spends and they<br />
call it GROWTH.</p>
<p>Then&#8230; why don&#8217;t you get a bucket and go make the shallow end of your<br />
nearest pool twice as deep by moving the water from the deep end to the<br />
shallow end, the deep end has too much and the way to make it all even<br />
is for you to act like government and take some from the deep(rich) and<br />
give it to the shallow(poor)</p>
<p>Then&#8230; you have inflation that you ignore&#8230;</p>
<p>Then&#8230; Cutting 99 of 100 workers last quarter may have stopped the<br />
massive bleeding of cash and they can post a smaller loss or &#8220;Profit&#8221;<br />
and then this quarter they fire their last one employee and close the<br />
doors forever according to you things are better because they only fired<br />
&#8220;one&#8221; employee this quarter!</p>
<p>Then.. your math is like the Global Warming math, you make up what ever<br />
makes you get what you want.  The truth is in the numbers that aren&#8217;t<br />
manipulated by government and Leftists.</p>
<p>Then&#8230; look at NON residential inventory&#8230;  theh storm is gathering as<br />
teh Depression moves to a different place, the Government is like a one<br />
legged man trying to put out a forest fire. They try to stamp out one<br />
place like the stock market and buying stocks, then the mortgage markets<br />
and banks, and then they hop over here and then there and it&#8217;s all<br />
smoldering and relighting and there is no GDP it&#8217;s an illusion, smoke<br />
and mirrors, we are still crashing in slow motion and government is<br />
spending more than six trillion dollars&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 5/1/2010 1:33 AM, retrogrouch wrote: &#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 23:27:59 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; Can you see how ignorant you need to be to believe that this is better &#62;&#62; than MOST of the 8 years of Bush? I have no love for Bush but it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 5/1/2010 1:33 AM, retrogrouch wrote:<br />
&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 <strong>23</strong>:27:59 -0400, Can You <strong>Hear Us</strong> Now<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Can you see how ignorant you need to be to believe that this is better<br />
&gt;&gt; than MOST of the 8 years of Bush?  I have no love for Bush but it sure<br />
&gt;&gt; is ridiculous to try to pass this kind of propaganda off as real life.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; All you are showing is your ignorance of the measures.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; It is far better than the last year of Bush. 2007-8 were abysmal.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 2009Q1	-6.<strong>43</strong><br />
&gt; 2008Q4	-5.<strong>37</strong><br />
&gt; 2008Q3	-2.68<br />
&gt; 2008Q2	1.46<br />
&gt; 2008Q1	-0.72<br />
&gt; 2007Q4	2.12<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; We&#8217;re finally out of the Bush nose dive.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not what you said before&#8230;.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re moving the goal posts since you were shown to be full of <acronym title="shit"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> s&*$?%t</span></acronym>.</p>
<p>Your new proposal suggests that we are bottomed out and when you look at<br />
other measuring scales like Jobs and Mortgages we have <strong>10</strong> years or more<br />
to get back to &#8220;&gt; 2007Q4	2.12&#8243;  in reality!  Youy are still believing<br />
the <strong>GDP</strong> as some sort of tell all scale&#8230;.  it&#8217;s <strong>GDP</strong> and <strong>GDP</strong> is *MORE<br />
ABOUT <strong>GOVERNMENT</strong> <strong>SPENDING</strong> THAN <strong>PRIVATE</strong> <strong>SECTOR</strong> <strong>HEALTH</strong>*   You are still<br />
drinking the Kool-ade.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/30/2010 3:43 PM, retrogrouch wrote: &#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:10:05 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; phrase the GDP propaganda &#62;&#62; this quarter, they&#8217;re saying how great it is that GDP is up, yet it&#8217;s &#62;&#62; actually down [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/30/2010 3:<strong>43</strong> PM, retrogrouch wrote:<br />
&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:<strong>10</strong>:05 -0400, Can You <strong>Hear Us</strong> Now<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; phrase the <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda<br />
&gt;&gt; this quarter, they&#8217;re saying how great it is that <strong>GDP</strong> is up, yet it&#8217;s<br />
&gt;&gt; actually down from the last <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda.  <strong>DOWN</strong> FROM OVER 5% to around<br />
&gt;&gt; 3%&#8230;.  that&#8217;s around a 20% down turn in <strong>GDP</strong>.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; When the economy drops 20% in the middle of an economic Depression the<br />
&gt;&gt; <strong>Main Stream Media</strong> is telling you *that&#8217;s great*  we&#8217;re getting better<br />
&gt;&gt; and improving.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Of course it all propaganda and you can&#8217;t believe what they tell you but<br />
&gt;&gt; you can believe in this case that things are worse than the <strong>Democrats</strong><br />
&gt;&gt; and Media are letting on.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; 3.24% <strong>GDP</strong> growth is solid, fool. Bush managed that higher than that<br />
&gt; only 7 quarters out of 32.</p>
<p>Which is why it&#8217;s obvious propaganda&#8230;  did bush get those numbers with<br />
more people working and building houses and selling houses and here we<br />
sit with &#8220;jack <acronym title="shit"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> s&*$?%t</span></acronym>&#8221;  happening and you claim we are doing better than<br />
bush all but 7 quarters.  If that doesn&#8217;t fit the description of fudging<br />
the numbers then you&#8217;re too dumb to know when to breath.</p>
<p>Can you see how ignorant you need to be to believe that this is better<br />
than MOST of the 8 years of Bush?  I have no love for Bush but it sure<br />
is ridiculous to try to pass this kind of propaganda off as real life.</p>
<p>&gt;<br />
&gt; <strong>Date	Value</strong><br />
&gt; 2010Q1	3.24<br />
&gt; 2009Q4	5.55<br />
&gt; 2009Q3	2.24<br />
&gt; 2009Q2	-0.74<br />
&gt; 2009Q1	-6.<strong>43</strong><br />
&gt; 2008Q4	-5.<strong>37</strong><br />
&gt; 2008Q3	-2.68<br />
&gt; 2008Q2	1.46<br />
&gt; 2008Q1	-0.72<br />
&gt; 2007Q4	2.12<br />
&gt; 2007Q3	3.59<br />
&gt; 2007Q2	3.22<br />
&gt; 2007Q1	1.21<br />
&gt; 2006Q4	2.96<br />
&gt; 2006Q3	0.1<br />
&gt; 2006Q2	1.45<br />
&gt; 2006Q1	5.35<br />
&gt; 2005Q4	2.08<br />
&gt; 2005Q3	3.08<br />
&gt; 2005Q2	1.72<br />
&gt; 2005Q1	4.05<br />
&gt; 2004Q4	3.52<br />
&gt; 2004Q3	2.97<br />
&gt; 2004Q2	2.87<br />
&gt; 2004Q1	2.85<br />
&gt; 2003Q4	3.64<br />
&gt; 2003Q3	6.88<br />
&gt; 2003Q2	3.<strong>23</strong><br />
&gt; 2003Q1	1.63<br />
&gt; 2002Q4	0.08<br />
&gt; 2002Q3	2.01<br />
&gt; 2002Q2	2.14<br />
&gt; 2002Q1	3.48<br />
&gt; 2001Q4	1.42<br />
&gt; 2001Q3	-1.09<br />
&gt; 2001Q2	2.65<br />
&gt; 2001Q1	-1.31</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<title>Re: GDP DOWN FROM OVER 5% to around 3%&#8230;.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/30/2010 3:47 PM, retrogrouch wrote: &#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:39:24 -0400, &#8220;Throw The Bummah Out in &#8217;12&#8243; &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; &#8220;Michael Coburn&#8221; wrote in message &#62;&#62; news:hrfar41ds5 @&#038;*$?%news2.newsguy.com&#8230; &#62;&#62;&#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:10:05 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/30/2010 3:47 PM, retrogrouch wrote:<br />
&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:39:24 -0400, &#8220;Throw The Bummah Out in &#8217;12&#8243;<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; &#8220;Michael Coburn&#8221;  wrote in message<br />
&gt;&gt; news:hrfar41ds5<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>news2.newsguy.com&#8230;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:<strong>10</strong>:05 -0400, Can You <strong>Hear Us</strong> Now wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; phrase the <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; this quarter, they&#8217;re saying how great it is that <strong>GDP</strong> is up, yet it&#8217;s<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; actually down from the last <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda.  <strong>DOWN</strong> FROM OVER 5% to around<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3%&#8230;.  that&#8217;s around a 20% down turn in <strong>GDP</strong>.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Liar&#8230;  It is a 20% downswing in <strong>GROWTH</strong>.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; =========<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; <strong>YEAH</strong> and when it was happening  under Bush, you <acronym title="faggot"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> f&*$?%t</span></acronym> maggots called it a<br />
&gt;&gt; Bush depression.<br />
&gt;&gt; Eat your own words <acronym title="skank"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> s&*$?%k</span></acronym> face!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; We called it a recession when it was shrinking idiot.</p>
<p>Now we call it propaganda&#8230;.  Government spending is growing and <strong>GDP</strong> is<br />
now mostly Government spending.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/30/2010 4:23 PM, retrogrouch wrote: &#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:43:21 -0700, retrogrouch &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:10:05 -0400, Can You Hear Us Now &#62;&#62; wrote: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; phrase the GDP propaganda &#62;&#62;&#62; this quarter, they&#8217;re saying how [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/30/2010 4:<strong>23</strong> PM, retrogrouch wrote:<br />
&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:<strong>43</strong>:21 -0700, retrogrouch<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:<strong>10</strong>:05 -0400, Can You <strong>Hear Us</strong> Now<br />
&gt;&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; phrase the <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; this quarter, they&#8217;re saying how great it is that <strong>GDP</strong> is up, yet it&#8217;s<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; actually down from the last <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda.  <strong>DOWN</strong> FROM OVER 5% to around<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; 3%&#8230;.  that&#8217;s around a 20% down turn in <strong>GDP</strong>.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; When the economy drops 20% in the middle of an economic Depression the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>Main Stream Media</strong> is telling you *that&#8217;s great*  we&#8217;re getting better<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; and improving.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The economy didn&#8217;t &#8220;drop&#8221; fool, it grew slightly slower.<br />
&gt; The <strong>GDP</strong> going from 5.55 to 3.24 is like the difference in driving<br />
&gt; going from 85 mph to 60 mph.  We&#8217;re talking speed of growth.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; When we were talking Bush recession he was literally driving in<br />
&gt; reverse, the economy was shrinking.</p>
<p>The point is that we&#8217;re not looking at real numbers but even these bogus<br />
numbers admit we are slowing(or the last numbers were over exaggerated)<br />
and we may be back to zero and negative ground soon. The <strong>GDP</strong> adds<br />
Government spending as part of <strong>GDP</strong> and while the government spent<br />
$trillions of dollars in Obama&#8217;s first year, but we won&#8217;t be doing that<br />
again because we don&#8217;t have it, can&#8217;t get it and printing more of it<br />
will trash the economy worse than the actual solution of cutting<br />
government to a reasonable size.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t be growing, when jobs are still negative and NOT just slowing<br />
down.  There is no net gain, we are also sitting on Trillions of bad<br />
<strong>mortgages</strong> and years to decades of home sales to just get back to even.</p>
<p>In short, Your <strong>GDP</strong> is just pissing in the wind&#8230;.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; phrase the GDP propaganda this quarter, they&#8217;re saying how great it is that GDP is up, yet it&#8217;s actually down from the last GDP propaganda. DOWN FROM OVER 5% to around 3%&#8230;. that&#8217;s around a 20% down turn in GDP. When the economy drops 20% in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you noticed how the &#8220;main stream media&#8221; phrase the <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda<br />
this quarter, they&#8217;re saying how great it is that <strong>GDP</strong> is up, yet it&#8217;s<br />
actually down from the last <strong>GDP</strong> propaganda.  <strong>DOWN</strong> FROM OVER 5% to around<br />
3%&#8230;.  that&#8217;s around a 20% down turn in <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
<p>When the economy drops 20% in the middle of an economic Depression the<br />
<strong>Main Stream Media</strong> is telling you *that&#8217;s great*  we&#8217;re getting better<br />
and improving.</p>
<p>Of course it all propaganda and you can&#8217;t believe what they tell you but<br />
you can believe in this case that things are worse than the <strong>Democrats</strong><br />
and Media are letting on.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Government is the problem Our <strong>Constitution</strong> IS the solution.</p>
<p>http://constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 4/17/2010 11:55 AM, Milt wrote: &#62; On Apr 17, 11:08 am, Beam Me Up Scotty Everyth&#8230;@blackhole.NebulaX.com&#62; wrote: &#62;&#62; On 4/17/2010 8:46 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; Steve wrote in &#62;&#62;&#62; news:om8js5prl091sn6b52gpu6gcvk87s0qf7t @&#038;*$?%4ax.com: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:41:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; wrote: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; Steve wrote in &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 4/17/2010 11:55 AM, Milt wrote:<br />
&gt; On Apr 17, 11:08 am, Beam Me Up Scotty  Everyth&#8230;@blackhole.NebulaX.com&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; On 4/17/2010 8:46 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Steve  wrote in<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; news:om8js5prl091sn6b52gpu6gcvk87s0qf7t<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:41:03 -0500, Mitchell Holman<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Steve  wrote in<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; news:1aqgs55sd11nqr076qnv3ibmccqn949qfu<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:45:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Steve  wrote in<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; news:tdlgs51af8oo3np0trcheg4n5a1i839h47<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 07:13:41 -0500, Mitchell Holman<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Steve  wrote in<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; news:9v4gs55qtuqvr5db33o6sfsv8ku6c6m1i4<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:00:18 -0700 (PDT), Milt<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Apr 15, 10:13 pm, Mitchell Holman  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Foxtrot  wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; innews:l4gds5tqg0jqled3iobn1s0j79c6inq71g<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>4ax.com:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html?hp<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Poll Finds Tea Party Backers Wealthier and More Educated<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; than<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; into<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; a<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; lower socioeconomic class, according to the latest New York<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Times/CBS News poll.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Nearly 9 in 10 disapprove of the job Mr. Obama is doing over<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; all<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Of course we knew this already.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Tea Partiers are better educated than others and they<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; disapprove<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of Bow Down Obama. The corollary would be that his supporters<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; are<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; stupid.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    These are the same people who want to cut taxes on<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the rich, cut taxes on the middle class, cut federal<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; borrowing, and finance the federal spending they support<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; by&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This kind of shoots the whole &#8220;grassroots&#8221; characterization all<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; to<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; hell, doesn&#8217;t it?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The left has to try to demonize the Tea Party movement because<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; they<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; realize it&#8217;s potential for running the Democrats out of<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Washington.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The left is running scared.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Even you cannot explain how the Teabaggers plan to<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; finance the government spending they support.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8220;They support more government spending, you say????<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    &#8220;more&#8221; = your strawman.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;    They support prisons, the military, border controls,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; secret tribunals, Medicare &#8211; how do they propose to pay<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; for them?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Same way they&#8217;re paid for now, Dummy..<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Via taxes on the rich and middle class.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;     Bingo&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Errrr,   so what&#8217;s your point?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;      Conservatives have no idea how to finance government.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; The have told you&#8230;.  Get the Democrats/Socialists out so the spending<br />
&gt;&gt; can be dropped to a level that taxpayers can afford to pay the bills the<br />
&gt;&gt; government makes.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; That&#8217;s funny, &#8216;cuz everytime you Republicans/Wackos get into office,<br />
&gt; spending goes through the roof.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The only presidents to have balanced a budget in the post-war era were<br />
&gt; Johnson and Clinton. The only times government spending has actually<br />
&gt; dropped in the last 50 years has been when Democrats were in charge.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that working so far?</p>
<p>&gt; You know why interest rates went sky high under Carter? It was because<br />
&gt; he was trying to reign in government spending. You know why they went<br />
&gt; back down? Because Reagan didn&#8217;t reign in government spending.  By the<br />
&gt; way, as a percentage of GDP, Reagan&#8217;s deficits were slightly larger<br />
&gt; than the one Obama will have to run this year to get us out of this<br />
&gt; Great recession that Republican policies sank us into.</p>
<p>So you say spending saves money&#8230;..  right, OK come in off the ledge.</p>
<p>&gt; It used to be that Republicans get us into recession, and Democrats<br />
&gt; get us into war. Now, you get us into recession AND war. How proud are<br />
&gt; YOU to be a Republican these days?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m NOT.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Subject: Re: The Federal Reserve Knows How To Keep Fuel Prices Low Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:24:10 -0400 From: Beam Me Up Scotty Organization: alt.politics.libertarian, alt.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.economics, alt.politics.usa.constitution, alt.politics.liberalism Newsgroups: alt.philosophy,alt.global-warming,sci.energy,alt.politics,alt.politics.economics References: On 4/8/2010 11:59 PM, Bret Cahill wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; Jack up interest rates for another low tax Great Recession. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; <strong>Original Message</strong> &#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Subject: Re: The <strong>Federal</strong> Reserve Knows How To Keep Fuel Prices Low<br />
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:24:<strong>10</strong> -0400<br />
From: Beam Me Up Scotty<br />
Organization: alt.politics.libertarian, alt.rush-limbaugh,<br />
alt.politics.economics, alt.politics.usa.constitution,<br />
alt.politics.liberalism<br />
Newsgroups:<br />
alt.philosophy,alt.global-warming,sci.energy,alt.politics,alt.politics.economics<br />
References:</p>
<p>On 4/8/2010 <strong>11</strong>:59 PM, Bret Cahill wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Jack up interest rates for another low tax <strong>Great Recession</strong>.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Bret Cahill<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; More <strong>Jimmy Carter</strong> economics from Bret&#8230;.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; You mean the high tax <strong>Clinton</strong> economic boom which balanced the budget<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; as well as discrediting <strong>GOP</strong> &#8220;market&#8221; economists.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bret Cahill<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; yep that&#8217;s what I mean&#8230;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Obama&#8217;s high tax economic boom will balance the budget even faster.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Bret Cahill</p>
<p>Can you explain how taking <strong>money</strong> from those that use it to grow the<br />
economy will &#8220;help&#8221; grow the economy.</p>
<p>Government doesn&#8217;t grow the economy&#8230;</p>
<p> they usually produce nothing as a product, except now the government<br />
makes cars that cost more to make than they sell for&#8230;..   The<br />
government is way more than just $4 billion into Negative <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
<p>The government is slowing down the economy.  Government is a &#8220;Ball and<br />
Chain&#8221; around the neck of the private sector which &#8220;is&#8221; who creates<br />
*ALL* the <strong>wealth</strong>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 3/3/2010 1:31 AM, retrogrouch @&#038;*$?%comcast.net wrote: &#62; On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:57:46 -0500, Occam&#8217;s Razor &#62; wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; On 3/2/2010 2:13 PM, retrogrouch @&#038;*$?%comcast.net wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62; On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:05:55 -0500, Occam&#8217;s Razor &#62;&#62;&#62; wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On 3/2/2010 11:21 AM, retrogrouch @&#038;*$?%comcast.net wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 3/3/2010 1:31 AM, retrogrouch<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>comcast.net wrote:<br />
&gt; On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:57:46 -0500, Occam&#8217;s Razor<br />
&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; On 3/2/2010 2:13 PM, retrogrouch<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>comcast.net wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:05:55 -0500, Occam&#8217;s Razor<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 3/2/2010 11:21 AM, retrogrouch<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>comcast.net wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:51:34 -0500, Occam&#8217;s Razor<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Will a Liberal Nation that votes by their feelings survive? &#8211;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Ask Denmark?<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So the answer is NO&#8230;.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh you didn&#8217;;t want an honest answer. You just wanted to spout off.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; I understand.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; NOT quite&#8230;..<br />
&gt;&gt; If you did understand you would ask; Why is Denmark in the EU?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; &#8220;Denmark is a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary system of<br />
&gt;&gt; government. Denmark has a state-level government and local governments<br />
&gt;&gt; in 98 municipalities. Denmark has been a member of the European Union<br />
&gt;&gt; since 1973, although it has not joined the Eurozone. Denmark is a<br />
&gt;&gt; founding member of NATO and the OECD.&#8221;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I almost believe you think you had a point.</p>
<p>They are a State in the EU&#8230;..  Denmark is being assimilated.</p>
<p>Denmark before Socialism and all their feelings took over is gone,  and<br />
NOW their Socialist Denmark is being assimilated into the EU collective.</p>
<p>Soon to become just another bland tasteless socialist state that is<br />
homogenized and uniform across the EU.  Socialist love to talk about<br />
Diversity and yet all the laws they pass and the Socialist system itself<br />
destroys diversity.  They have lost their unique Nation and their<br />
feelings have them voting for their own destruction.</p>
<p>The irony is staggering.</p>
<p>&gt; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Denmark<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;  . .<br />
&gt; Welfare state<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Denmark has a highly developed welfare safety net, which ensures that<br />
&gt; all Danes receive tax-funded health care and generous unemployment<br />
&gt; insurance. Denmark ranked the first in the European pensions barometer<br />
&gt; survey for the past two years[12] The lowest-income group before<br />
&gt; retirement from the age of 65 receive 120% of their pre-retirement<br />
&gt; income in pension and miscellaneous subsidies.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The large public sector (30% of the entire workforce on a full-time<br />
&gt; basis[13]) is financed by the world&#8217;s highest taxes[11]. A value added<br />
&gt; tax of 25% is levied on the sale of most goods and services (including<br />
&gt; groceries). The income tax in Denmark ranges from 42.9%[11] to 63%<br />
&gt; progressively, levied on 4 out of 10 full-time employees[14]. Such<br />
&gt; high rates mean that 1,010,000 Danes before the end of 2008 (44% of<br />
&gt; all full-time employees) will be paying a marginal income tax of 63%<br />
&gt; and a combined marginal tax of 70.9% resulting warnings from<br />
&gt; organisations such as the OECD [15][16]. TV2 (Denmark) reported in<br />
&gt; April 2008 that abolishing the middle- and top-level income tax<br />
&gt; brackets would amount to two (2) and one (1) percent of public sector<br />
&gt; revenue, respectively, which equals one and a half percent of GDP. The<br />
&gt; public sector as a whole had a budget surplus of 4.4% of GDP in 2007,<br />
&gt; but the tax cuts would increase private consumption and the labor<br />
&gt; shortage and thus result in a deficit on the trade balance and<br />
&gt; pressure to increase wages even further. Proceeds from selling one&#8217;s<br />
&gt; home (if there is any home equity (da: friværdi)) is not taxed, as the<br />
&gt; marginal tax rate on capital income from housing savings is around 0<br />
&gt; percent.[17] A survey by Standard &amp; Poor&#8217;s found that the total debt<br />
&gt; secured by mortgages in Danish homes amounts to 89.8% of GDP, which is<br />
&gt; above the debt level in other EU countries (and the U.S.A. at 74.6% of<br />
&gt; GDP).[18]<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Discussions on increasing the labor supply include abolishing a labor<br />
&gt; market arrangement called efterløn (eng.:early retirement pay)[19], at<br />
&gt; the present (end of 3rd quarter 2008) with more than 130,000<br />
&gt; participants (60 years until 64 years of age)[20]. Participation in<br />
&gt; this scheme is also open for self-employed people (farmers, fishermen,<br />
&gt; lawyers, etc.). Shortening the time unemployment benefit can be<br />
&gt; received (four years at the present), as an example, is also<br />
&gt; discussed. The Danish Economic Council in its 2008 spring report (27<br />
&gt; May)[21] proposes limiting the dagpengeperiode to 2.5 years, which is<br />
&gt; still half a year more than at present in Norway and one and a half<br />
&gt; year more than in Sweden, said in an interview by the chairman (da:<br />
&gt; overvismand) (professor of economics, University of Copenhagen) Peter<br />
&gt; Birch Sørensen 27 May 2008 on the TV program Deadline (10.30 pm),<br />
&gt; channel DR2, the Danish Broadcasting Corporation.<br />
&gt; [edit] Tax Burden and employment<br />
&gt; [edit] Tax burden<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; With a GDP of 1,642,215 million DKK and revenue from taxes and<br />
&gt; ownership at 803,693 million DKK (2006)[11], 49.07% of GDP, it is of<br />
&gt; extreme importance what happens in the tax-financed part of the<br />
&gt; economy. According to newly revised statistics, Denmark has had the<br />
&gt; world&#8217;s highest tax level in 2005 and 2006, at 50.7% and 49.1%<br />
&gt; respectively. Denmark also held this position 1970-74 and 1993-95 .<br />
&gt; These figures do not include income from ownership.[11]</p>
<p>    Look at what they have done to Denmark, I left all this above<br />
because it&#8217;s just so self explanatory. I couldn&#8217;t misspell anything<br />
above because it was to important and succinct, so &#8220;hear&#8221; is one for you<br />
after the fact.</p>
<p>Just my cense of humor&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 1/11/2010 11:55 PM, China Blue Öyster Cult wrote: &#62; In article , &#62; Beam Me Up Scotty wrote: &#62; &#62;&#62; Money in motion loses value as it is taxed over and over. The law of &#62; &#62; So the government takes the taxes and just stuffs them into a mattress never to &#62; be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 1/<strong>11</strong>/2010 <strong>11</strong>:55 PM, <strong>China</strong> Blue Öyster Cult wrote:<br />
&gt; In article ,<br />
&gt;  Beam Me Up Scotty  wrote:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Money in motion loses value as it is taxed over and over.  The law of<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; So the government takes the <strong>taxes</strong> and just stuffs them into a mattress never to<br />
&gt; be seen again?</p>
<p>The mattress is called government.  The bigger the government piece of<br />
the <strong>GDP</strong> pie the smaller the Private sector of the <strong>GDP</strong> pie.</p>
<p>If the government spends on a new <strong>employee</strong> the 30-50% of the pay will<br />
then go back to the government to hire another government <strong>employee</strong> and<br />
the circle jerk expands, while it decreases the hiring of private sector<br />
jobs and decreases the <strong>GDP</strong>.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Subject: Re: The Appeal of Ayn Rand Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:50:53 -0600 From: John Galt Organization: Forte Inc. http://www.forteinc.com/apn/ Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.politics.conservative,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.republican References: Beam Me Up Scotty wrote: &#62; On 1/8/2010 1:33 PM, John Galt wrote: &#62;&#62; China Blue Öyster Cult wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62; In article , &#62;&#62;&#62; John Galt wrote: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; <strong>Original Message</strong> &#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
Subject: Re: The Appeal of <strong>Ayn Rand</strong><br />
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:50:53 -0600<br />
From: John Galt<br />
Organization: Forte Inc.  http://www.forteinc.com/apn/<br />
Newsgroups:<br />
alt.politics,alt.politics.conservative,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.republican<br />
References:</p>
<p>Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:<br />
&gt; On 1/8/2010 1:33 PM, John Galt wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; <strong>China</strong> Blue Öyster Cult wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; In article ,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;  John Galt  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1) They have a very high military-to-state <strong>GDP</strong> ratio. Quite obviously,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; California has the most dead <strong>soldiers</strong> home from <strong>Iraq</strong>. California also<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; has relatively minor military installations like Camp Pendelton,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Travis. Miramar, Edwards, etc. California pays more in <strong>taxes</strong> than it<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; receives.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; The rich pay more, that&#8217;s how the Progressive income tax works&#8230;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; It is the nature of the Liberals plan to steal from the wealthy and<br />
&gt; redistribute to <strong>the poor</strong>, I&#8217;m sure you meant to say that it feels so<br />
&gt; good to be a giving person.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; No Liberal State would complain about paying their fair <strong>share</strong>.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s one of the unsaid hypocrisies of the &#8220;red states take more<br />
than they give&#8221; canard. The people who disparagingly mention it are the<br />
selfsame people who supported the policies making it so.</p>
<p><strong>JG</strong></p>
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		<title>Re: Sound Like Anyone You Know?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#62; On 2009-12-26 10:43:25 -0500, &#8220;GOP Altered History&#8221; said: &#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#8220;John Q Public&#8221; wrote in message &#62;&#62; news:2009122608530616807-my2cents @&#038;*$?%mecom&#8230; &#62;&#62;&#62; On 2009-12-26 06:23:07 -0500, Kickin&#8217; A&#038;*$?%s and Takin&#8217; Names &#62;&#62;&#62; said: &#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 02:45:49 -0600, &#8220;vict0r&#8221; wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; Debt-laden Japan shocked by £630bn ($1 trillion) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; On 2009-12-26 <strong>10</strong>:<strong>43</strong>:25 -0500, &#8220;<strong>GOP</strong> <strong>Altered History</strong>&#8221;  said:<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; &#8220;John Q Public&#8221;  wrote in message<br />
&gt;&gt; news:2009122608530616807-my2cents<acronym title="@"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> @&*$?%</span></acronym>mecom&#8230;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 2009-12-26 06:<strong>23</strong>:07 -0500, Kickin&#8217; <acronym title="Ass"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> A&*$?%s</span></acronym> and Takin&#8217; Names<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;  said:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>On Sat</strong>, 26 Dec 2009 02:45:49 -0600, &#8220;vict0r&#8221;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Debt-laden Japan shocked by £630bn ($1 trillion) spree<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yukio Hatoyama, the new Japanese <strong>Prime Minister</strong>, has stunned a nation<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; already mired in huge public debt by unveiling the country&#8217;s biggest<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ever<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; postwar budget: a 92.3 trillion yen (£630 billion) spending spree<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; aimed<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; at<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8220;saving people&#8217;s lives&#8221;.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The unprecedented budget, which supposedly shifts Japan&#8217;s fiscal<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; spending<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; focus &#8220;from concrete to lives&#8221;, comes amid rising concern about the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; solidity<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of sovereign debt in the world&#8217;s second-largest economy.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The new budget will require additional debt issuance of Y44.3<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; trillion -<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; within the Government&#8217;s expected band, but still at a level that will<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; raise<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Japan&#8217;s debt-to-<strong>GDP</strong> ratio to nearly 195 per cent.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://business.timesonline.co.<strong>uk</strong>/tol/business/markets/<strong>japan</strong>/article6967956.ece<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Yep.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sounds exactly like the <strong>Reagan</strong> and Bush administrations, both of which<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ran the national debt up to historic levels.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; hahahahahahahahahaha<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>BO</strong> schill, its exactly what the left is doing now so take your buuut<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; what<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; about Bush<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>BS</strong> right out the door libtard, you own it now!<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Yep, keep protecting the criminal right and  keep paying for their lavish<br />
&gt;&gt; lives.</p>
<p>Do you work for free, I mean other than for the government who forces<br />
you too? I get paid when I work, I even get pretty much what I ask for<br />
and when I don&#8217;t, I start looking for a different employer that won&#8217;t be<br />
so cheap, either they are not making enough to pay me the right amount<br />
or they are just trying to rip me off like someone scalping tickets to a<br />
show or game.   Either way I&#8217;d be as dumb as you if I didn&#8217;t either look<br />
for a smart employer that was likely to stay in business.  My last<br />
employer asked how much I wanted and I reached for the moon and blurted<br />
out what I thought ws more than the job was worth and the boss said&#8230;..<br />
&#8220;OK&#8221;</p>
<p>You Liberals have a funny way of life, you think the world owes you a<br />
debt of gratitude for existing, you think gulags and concentration camps<br />
are for everyone else. That&#8217;s not very bright since a government that<br />
can put one group in a gulag, can just as easily do the same for you.</p>
<p>You are willing to violate the <strong>Constitution</strong> for health care which means<br />
that the constitution can also be violated for putting people in Prison<br />
in Illinois with no way to ever get out.</p>
<p>*With any luck you will receive some <strong>Poetic Justice</strong>* maybe you&#8217;ll die<br />
providing a need for a high paying job for a fellow Liberal guarding you<br />
in a gulag prison in Illinois while you&#8217;re receiving Government health<br />
care in there.<br />
&#8211; </p>
<p>                   *BE VERY <strong>CONCERNED</strong>*</p>
<p>For *your <strong>WELFARE</strong>* there is the <strong>CHINESE</strong> <strong>MASTERCARD</strong>, but Freedom is<br />
priceless.</p>
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		<title>Re: Leading economic indicators points to growth in 2010</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 12/19/2009 3:45 PM, liberal wrote: &#62; On Dec 17, 9:14 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty dog.com&#62; wrote: &#62;&#62; On 12/17/2009 2:32 PM, liberal wrote: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; On Dec 17, 11:19 am, &#8220;lab~rat &#62;:-)&#8221; wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:33:39 -0500, H&#038;*$?%e &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; puked: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; &#62;From The Associated [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 12/19/2009 3:45 PM, liberal wrote:<br />
&gt; On Dec 17, 9:14 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty  dog.com&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; On 12/17/2009 2:32 PM, liberal wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Dec 17, <strong>11</strong>:19 am, &#8220;lab~rat  &gt;:-)&#8221;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>On Thu</strong>, 17 Dec 2009 <strong>10</strong>:33:39 -0500, <acronym title="Harry Hope"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> H&*$?%e</span></acronym><br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; puked:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt;From The <strong>Associated Press</strong>, 12/17/09:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34461873/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>Economic</strong> survey points to growth in 2010<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>Conference Board</strong> says six of the <strong>10</strong> indicators in index rose last<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>NEW</strong> <strong>YORK</strong> -<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A forecast of U.S. economic activity rose for the eighth straight<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; month in November, signaling the economic rebound will continue next<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; year, a private research group said Thursday.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The <strong>Conference Board</strong> said its index of leading economic indicators<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; rose 0.9 percent last month, up from 0.3 percent in October.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The latest reading beat the 0.7 percent rise that economists surveyed<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; by <strong>Thomson Reuters</strong> had expected.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The <strong>Conference Board</strong> said six of the <strong>10</strong> indicators it uses for the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; index <strong>increased</strong> last month.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Odd that they don&#8217;t mention the six indicators&#8230;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; I once read that <strong>US</strong> <strong>GDP</strong> numbers include off-shored manufacturing if<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; done by a <strong>US</strong> company. Thus hopelessly inflating the numbers.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; NOT to mention that it includes Government printing and spending&#8230;..<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; That tends to cause more problems than it solves, but it&#8217;s counted as a<br />
&gt;&gt; positive in the <strong>GDP</strong> numbers.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; When you Borrow <strong>money</strong> it is a plus to your income or a Negative when you<br />
&gt;&gt; spend it?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; The existing equation: <strong>GDP</strong> = C + I + G + (X &#8211; M)<br />
&gt;&gt; C = Consumer<br />
&gt;&gt; I = Investment<br />
&gt;&gt; G = Government<br />
&gt;&gt; (X-M) = (Export &#8211; Imports)<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Well, it&#8217;s not a plus. But a rational person would note that your Eco<br />
&gt; 101 &#8220;equation&#8221; does not include debt. The equation is a quick and<br />
&gt; dirty description of an economy, meant to help introduce the subject</p>
<p>The numbers they toss out to you are from where?</p>
<p>&gt; matter to real students of the discipline or be a crutch for the<br />
&gt; mentally challenged. (I&#8217;ll leave it to the reader to decide where you<br />
&gt; fit there.) Real economic equations (ie, ones with true explanatory<br />
&gt; <strong>power</strong>) do include the issue of debt and, therefore, multiple time<br />
&gt; periods.</p>
<p>Do they account for the inflation that printing <strong>money</strong> creates?</p>
<p>Do they include the interest that must be paid by the government to<br />
borrow <strong>money</strong>?</p>
<p>They lack the Government <strong>COST</strong> in the equation.</p>
<p>Lastly is why do they give us numbers that clearly don&#8217;t include the<br />
debt you speak of.  If they were using the cost of Government their<br />
positive numbers wouldn&#8217;t be so positive.   Since consumers and<br />
investors and exports are NOT growing, how did <strong>GDP</strong> grow&#8230; Government<br />
borrowing and spending?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 12/17/2009 2:32 PM, liberal wrote: &#62; On Dec 17, 11:19 am, &#8220;lab~rat &#62;:-)&#8221; wrote: &#62;&#62; On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:33:39 -0500, H&#038;*$?%e &#62;&#62; puked: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;From The Associated Press, 12/17/09: &#62;&#62;&#62; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34461873/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/ &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; Economic survey points to growth in 2010 &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; Conference Board says [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 12/17/2009 2:32 PM, liberal wrote:<br />
&gt; On Dec 17, <strong>11</strong>:19 am, &#8220;lab~rat  &gt;:-)&#8221;  wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; <strong>On Thu</strong>, 17 Dec 2009 <strong>10</strong>:33:39 -0500, <acronym title="Harry Hope"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> H&*$?%e</span></acronym><br />
&gt;&gt; puked:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; &gt;From The <strong>Associated Press</strong>, 12/17/09:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34461873/ns/business-stocks_and_economy/<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>Economic</strong> survey points to growth in 2010<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>Conference Board</strong> says six of the <strong>10</strong> indicators in index rose last<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; <strong>NEW</strong> <strong>YORK</strong> -<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; A forecast of U.S. economic activity rose for the eighth straight<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; month in November, signaling the economic rebound will continue next<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; year, a private research group said Thursday.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; The <strong>Conference Board</strong> said its index of leading economic indicators<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; rose 0.9 percent last month, up from 0.3 percent in October.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; The latest reading beat the 0.7 percent rise that economists surveyed<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; by <strong>Thomson Reuters</strong> had expected.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; The <strong>Conference Board</strong> said six of the <strong>10</strong> indicators it uses for the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; index <strong>increased</strong> last month.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Odd that they don&#8217;t mention the six indicators&#8230;<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; I once read that <strong>US</strong> <strong>GDP</strong> numbers include off-shored manufacturing if<br />
&gt; done by a <strong>US</strong> company. Thus hopelessly inflating the numbers.</p>
<p>NOT to mention that it includes Government printing and spending&#8230;..</p>
<p>That tends to cause more problems than it solves, but it&#8217;s counted as a<br />
positive in the <strong>GDP</strong> numbers.</p>
<p>When you Borrow <strong>money</strong> it is a plus to your income or a Negative when you<br />
spend it?</p>
<p>The existing equation: <strong>GDP</strong> = C + I + G + (X &#8211; M)<br />
C = Consumer<br />
I = Investment<br />
G = Government<br />
(X-M) = (Export &#8211; Imports)</p>
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