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		<title>What If We Don&#8217;t Raise Cattle To Eat Them?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[On 6/27/2010 8:15 PM, M Purcell wrote: &#62; On Jun 27, 4:39 pm, &#8220;Fred C. Dobbs&#8221; &#62; wrote: &#62;&#62; On 6/27/2010 4:09 PM, M Purcell wrote: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62; On Jun 27, 4:04 pm, &#8220;Fred C. Dobbs&#8221; &#62;&#62;&#62; wrote: &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On 6/27/2010 2:51 PM, M Purcell wrote: &#62;&#62; &#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62; On Jun 27, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 6/27/2010 8:15 PM, M Purcell wrote:<br />
&gt; On Jun 27, 4:39 pm, &#8220;Fred C. Dobbs&#8221;<br />
&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt; On 6/27/2010 4:09 PM, M Purcell wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Jun 27, 4:04 pm, &#8220;Fred C. Dobbs&#8221;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 6/27/2010 2:51 PM, M Purcell wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Jun 27, 2:10 pm, &#8220;Fred C. Dobbs&#8221;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 6/27/2010 2:03 PM, <acronym title="Rod Speed"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> R&*$?%d</span></acronym> wrote:<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Fred C. Dobbs wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <acronym title="Rod Speed"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> R&*$?%d</span></acronym> wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; RGrannus wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <acronym title="Rod Speed"><span style="text-decoration: line-through;"> R&*$?%d</span></acronym>       wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mark Earnest wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Immortalist       wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; dh@. wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Jeff       wrote<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Since the animals we raise for food would not be alive<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; if we didn&#8217;t raise them for that purpose, it&#8217;s a distortion of<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reality not to take that fact into consideration whenever<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; we think about the fact that the animals are going to be<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; killed. The animals are not being cheated out of any part<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; of their life by being raised for food, but instead they are<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; experiencing whatever life they get as a result of it.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So if Aliens came from outer space and turned humans into<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; their cows, from then on the same argument would apply to<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; us. The amount of life and culture we get in the pen can be<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; just taken away with no ethical problems at all?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#8217;s just a way of feeling a little less guilty about eating animals, I think.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &#8216;think&#8217; again. Its the reality that if we didnt eat them, they would have no life whatever.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So what?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So there is no good reason to not eat cattle.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If you happen to like beef.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just as true of any animals we eat.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Causing animals to exist in order to eat them or for any other reason is<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; not doing the animals a favor.  &#8220;Getting to experience life&#8221; is not a<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; benefit for them.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Most life seems to hold it in high regard and the question becomes is<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it a benefit for other life?<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; That&#8217;s still the wrong question.  The *lives* of cattle are not a<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; benefit to humans.  It&#8217;s the products that are a benefit.  Some people<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; might like driving through the countryside and seeing cows, but the cows<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; are not bred into existence for that.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The issue here is whether or not animals&#8217; lives are a benefit to those<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; animals.  The answer is no.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Your answer, not theirs. Generally any animal will protect their life.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Different issue.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Indeed, it&#8217;s their life.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; In answer to the question in the subject line, if we don&#8217;t raise cattle<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in order to eat them, then there won&#8217;t be any cattle.  The perfectly<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; adequate response to that is  &#8220;So?&#8221;<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Many people will starve.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; No, they would not.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Any idea of the consumption of beef?</p>
<p>Only someone who has never owned a farm would think the grocery stores<br />
will magically fill their shelves and feed you.</p>
<p>Do you understand where fertilizer comes from? Can you feed 4billion<br />
people with 1800&#8242;s organic vegetable farming without animals? Do you<br />
understand crop and animal rotation? Do you know that Mao tried to sit<br />
in his omnipotent position of power and tell farmers how to produce food<br />
and MILLIONS STARVED.</p>
<p>HOW&#8217;s Hugo <a href='http://outsourcenews.net/ng/tag/chavez/' rel='tag' class="hashtag">#Chavez</a> doing with his food situation?</p>
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