Atheism isn’t an Absence in belief

On 8/26/2010 5:20 PM, Scout wrote:
> Beam Me Up Scotty wrote:
>> On 8/26/2010 11:19 AM, WangoTango wrote:
>>> In article @&*$?%news.eternal-september.org>,
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>>>> WangoTango wrote:
>>>>> In article @&*$?%news.eternal-september.org>,
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>>>>>> WangoTango wrote:
>>>>>>> In article @&*$?%news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>>> @&*$?%verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net">me4guns @&*$?%verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says…
>>>>>>>> WangoTango wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <4-GdnYXpzeQrbO7RnZ2dnUVZ_ogAAAAA @&*$?%bright.net>,
>>>>>>>>> @&*$?%HotMail.com">SaPeIsMa @&*$?%HotMail.com says…
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> # There is no god to make atheism a belief,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You have it a&*$?%s-backwards
>>>>>>>>>> You don’t need a god “to make atheism a belief”
>>>>>>>>>> Atheism is the belief that there is no god
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No it is the rejection of faith.
>>>>>>>>> The belief in gods are a faith based position.
>>>>>>>>> Atheism is just a rejection of that.
>>>>>>>>> If there were any objective evidence for any gods there would
>>>>>>>>> be no atheism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ok, so let me double check you here. According to you atheists
>>>>>>>> do not believe that God and/or Gods do not exist, they simply
>>>>>>>> do not accept that they do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmm….doesn’t that sound more like an agnostic than an
>>>>>>>> atheist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, you don’t have it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Atheism is a doctrine that states that nothing exists but natural
>>>>>> phenomena (matter), that thought is a property or function of
>>>>>> matter, and that death irreversibly and totally terminates
>>>>>> individual organic units. This definition means that there are no
>>>>>> forces, phenomena, or entities which exist outside of or apart
>>>>>> from physical nature, or which transcend nature, or are “super”
>>>>>> natural, nor can there be. Humankind is on its own.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.atheists.org/atheism
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems the atheists agree with me.
>>>>> Well, that is a line of hokum.
>>>>> ‘I’ am an atheist and ‘I’ don’t agree with you.
>>>>
>>>> Well, 1 vs many…..who to believe.
>>> I suggest you make your own decision.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you are an athiest in name only?
>>> I don’t even know what that means.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you should tell them that they don’t understand their own
>>>>>> beliefs.
>>>>>
>>>>> See, that’s the thing, I don’t get to define what atheism means to
>>>>> anyone else but myself.
>>>>
>>>> Yea, but that’s the catch isn’t it. Atheism does have a meaning to
>>>> everyone else which may have NOTHING to do with your personal
>>>> definition as applied to yourself.
>>> So?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I mean you can call yourself a puppy dog if you like, and you can
>>>> invite your own definition of “puppy dogism” that applies to you.
>>>> However, when you talk to others, the commonly understood and
>>>> accepted meaning of “puppy dog” is going to apply.
>>> If you have a point, get to it.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That’s why I quoted from an entire organization of atheists. To get
>>>> a broad view of what it means to be an atheist in general. In
>>>> short, what it means. Whether your personal brand of atheism is
>>>> covered is moot.
>>>
>>> There may be a group that got together and made a statement, but that
>>> doesn’t mean they speak for anyone but themselves. That is the whole
>>> point. Atheism isn’t a religion that has dogma, organization, and a
>>> rule book, sorry.
>>>
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