Atheism isn’t an Absence in belief

On 8/25/2010 6:03 PM, Scout wrote:
> Jimbo wrote:
>> On Aug 24, 11:46 am, Beam Me Up Scotty >> Everyth…@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/24/2010 1:26 AM, DanielSan wrote:
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>>>> On 8/23/2010 10:22 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>> DanielSan wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/23/2010 9:29 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>> SaPeIsMa wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On 8/23/2010 5:35 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> DanielSan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/23/2010 5:18 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/23/2010 3:46 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “DanielSan” wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but we’re supposed to explain why you’re wrong?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atheism isn’t a belief.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s by definition the belief there is NO God(s)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Atheism is lack of theism.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> See below, dummy
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>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. Let’s see…
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s what the “A” in front of “theism” means
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> And what does “theism” mean?
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m sorry that you lose track of the argument after 2
>>>>>>>>>>>> sentences Come back when you can focus better
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>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but where have you defined “theism”?
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>>>>>>>>>> I take it then that you need “theism” to be defined for you?
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>>>>>>>>> Why is it that whenever I ask a question, the other person
>>>>>>>>> assumes that I don’t know the answer?
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>>>>>>>> If you allegedly know the answer, why are you wasting your time
>>>>>>>> for the definition
>>>>>>>> Are you making stupid presumptions about others ?
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>>>>>>> Seems to be the case, and I haven’t noted that your use of the
>>>>>>> term is at variance with it’s commonly understood meaning.
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>>>>>>> So one does have to wonder why he chose to point out that you
>>>>>>> haven’t defined the term. Either he didn’t know what it meant,
>>>>>>> or he felt that your use of the term varied from the meaning.
>>>>>>> Now if it were the 2nd case, then he would have quickly pointed
>>>>>>> this out by posting a definition of the term. That would tend to
>>>>>>> suggest the most logical conclusion is that he didn’t know what
>>>>>>> the term meant. Though I suppose the opinion of his being a
>>>>>>> dumbass who distracts the discussion with irrelevent questions
>>>>>>> is still an option.
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>>>>>>> I suppose it’s up to him. Does he want to confess he didn’t know
>>>>>>> as much as he thought he did, or does he want to confess to
>>>>>>> being an irrelevent a&*$?%s.
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>>>>>> theism is the belief in god or gods.
>>>>>> atheism is the lack of belief in god or gods.
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>>>>>> Is that simple enough?
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>>>>> Actually agnostics is a lack of belief in god or gods..
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>>>> False.
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>>>> Agnosticism is about knowledge, not belief.
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>>>> I’m an agnostic atheist. I don’t know if any gods exist and I don’t
>>>> believe in them.
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>>> All atheists “don’t know if any gods exist” They only believe on
>>> faith that no God exist.
>>>
>>
>> Nonsense.
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> “Atheism is a doctrine that states that nothing exists but natural
> phenomena (matter), that thought is a property or function of matter,

We have discovered (anti-matter)Dark Matter Black holes White Holes,
Dark Energy and more….. What is on the other side of a black/white hole?

Do worm holes connect to other universes? Since most everything is in
pairs, can we expect that Natural Phenomenon has an opposite of
un-natural phenomenon.

How do Atheists explain the beginning of LIFE, was it an accident in a
mud puddle? If so then why hasn’t that same accident happened over and
over creating new DNA life forms with strange alternate DNA? The shear
numbers of random life being created must mean that billions of life
forms were created before one was created that could reproduce(you don’t
create complex reproducing DNA the first time out), so NEW DNA different
of life forms that can’t reproduce must be created on a daily basis
somewhere on the planet. No one has ever dug up a single one of those
Billions and billions of life forms that can’t reproduce? Why is that?

> and that death irreversibly and totally terminates individual organic
> units. This definition means that there are no forces, phenomena, or

Some die and are then revived, does that mean death has no beginning or
end?

> entities which exist outside of or apart from physical nature, or
> which transcend nature, or are “super” natural, nor can there be.
> Humankind is on its own.”

How can we see, hear, smell, sense, something not limited to our kind of
existence? We can’t rule out what we don’t know, until we know everything.