‘Red Scares’

On 7/25/2010 5:54 PM, Larry G wrote:
> On Jul 25, 1:44 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty > Everyth…@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 7/25/2010 11:50 AM, Dave Head wrote:
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>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Larry G
>>> wrote:
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>>>> “The SS needs to be phased out. Cutting it suddenly isn’t possible
>>>> without adversely affecting lots of people. ”
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>>>> Who is agreeing with you on this? Not the establishment Republicans.
>>>> Not the Tea Party – the last POLL of them say 2/3 of them do not want
>>>> to get rid of SS.
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>>> I don’t really give a rip. We have to do it.
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>>>> so WHO do you think will champion this?
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>>> I’m not so concerned about that. It is just my opinion. What I’m
>>> concerned about is getting rid of the income tax. Without doing that,
>>> we will never see prosperity again.
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>>>> Do you seriously think that the majority of people in this country are
>>>> going to elect to Congress and the Presidency someone who says they
>>>> will phase out SS?
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>>> Dunno. Maybe if they are made to understand.
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>>>> what is Your … REALISTIC solution here?
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>>> The realistic solution is to cut the income taxes to zero, thus
>>> supercharging the economy, and therefore cutting the number of really
>>> poor people to very small numbers. When you get to the point where
>>> everyone has significant money, and starts looking at SS and Medicare
>>> as a drag on their pocketbook and not as a salvation in their old age
>>> which they can afford to take care of themselves anyway, then maybe SS
>>> and Medicare will be repealed. But the income tax has to die first.
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>>>> anyone can blather anti-govt rhetoric but where are the solutions?
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>> *HOW TO ALLOW AMERICA TO SURVIVE*
>> And give America back to Americans
>>
>> Reducing regulations is primary since regulation is what stifles
>> commerce, the more regulations, the more it costs our economy. Most
>> regulations are used by existing businesses to reduce competition, and
>> competition would help us get out of this depression.
>>
>> End the “war on drugs” make them legal(increase competition) and sold
>> at any drug store and push for prostitution to be legal too, that will
>> take the BIG money out of trafficking in drugs, and that will reduce the
>> gangs/dealers income and that should reduce the value of sex slaves and
>> hurt the human trafficking business income also. Why have illegal
>> prostitutes when there are so many legal tax paying prostitutes out there?
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>> Create Bi-color money, Red money for inside the USA and Original Green
>> money outside the USA….. NOTHING BUT A COLOR/INK difference, and
>> suddenly sending red money home to Mexico would be useless as the RED
>> money would be useless in Mexico since the Banks and etc wouldn’t accept
>> it abroad.
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>> The Drug dealers would have Red money that they need to exchange for
>> green money, makes it hard to do in large amounts and hard to spend and
>> more expensive to deal with….. that *makes Drugs less profitable* as
>> would dropping the income tax and installing a NATIONAL “NEW ITEM” SALES
>> TAX. *NOT* IMPLEMENTING A VAT TAX WHICH WILL HELP THE DRUG DEALERS and
>> illegals by making their tax free money leaving the country even more
>> valuable. If they had to buy/exchange the RED money for GREEN money then
>> you would charge the sales tax at that point.
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>> Have the States Ratify an amendment withdrawing the 16th amendment…
>> Maybe enact something similar to thehttp://fairtax.org(Federal sales
>> tax) *BUT NOT A VAT or VALUE ADDED TAX* with the same amendment that
>> removes income tax and the IRS, preferably a Federal *NEW ITEM* sales tax.
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>> This will reduce the number of tax crimes that people are in jails for
>> and it will give the people back their privacy. It will also promote
>> *GREEN* living where people will save more and waste less and buy second
>> hand and wear things out rather than discard and buy new. Then add the
>> amendment to it that if congress raises tax by 1% they are forced to cut
>> every single expenditure of the government by 3%.
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>> Begin to draw down troops as needed from around the world. Put half
>> of our military bases along the southern Border to minimize the amount
>> of border that the Border patrol needs to watch, the military and
>> Federal trespassing laws will push the illegals to spaces between the
>> military bases.
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>> This tax/border policy will financially assault the drug dealers and
>> hookers and other underground economy’s by forcing them to have to pay
>> tax when they *spend their money* , which will further reduce the
>> benefit of dealing in other illegal stuff. There needs to be one type
>> of dollar for use inside America and one type(color) of dollars for use
>> outside the USA. That will make it harder for smugglers to get money out
>> of the country and if they do spend it here then they will pay the sales
>> tax and that money is used to enforce the laws to catch smugglers. We
>> are “right now” taking money from peoples pay checks before they get
>> them and at the same time we don’t tax drug dealers or hookers and
>> illegals or others at all, we are penalizing the working Americans and
>> giving a bonus to illegal activity. Sales tax will also encourage saving
>> money rather than encouraging the leveraging of every dime you can
>> borrow like income tax does.
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>> This will drive people in the underground economy to become part of the
>> real economy. It will stop most of the turf killings and end our
>> immigration problems with illegals stealing identities since they will
>> be paying tax(as sales tax). Offer illegals less welfare and charge them
>> tax and they won’t be so eager to come here and we won’t need to chase
>> them……
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>> End Social Security/Medicare, grandfather it out of existence.
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>> Pass an amendment to the constitution that makes all
>> *laws_and_treaties* have a seven year sunset clause, and it requires
>> that each law/treaty be voted by a separate roll call vote every seven
>> years to continue to be maintained in our laws.
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>> There should also be some constitutional amendments to stifle congress’
>> borrowing and spending making it more difficult for that process.
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>> Pass another amendment creating term limits on congress so the House
>> has 6 terms and the Senate has 2 terms, for a total of 12 years in
>> either side of congress. WE NEED TO STOP CONGRESS FROM PASSING FRIVOLOUS
>> LAWS TAXES AND BORROWING AND ENDLESSLY PRINTING MONEY.
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>> To quit filling the jails with people over *social taboos* , we
>> need to take away congress’ ability to “social engineer” businesses or
>> private people by removing the governments tax code.
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>> Government needs to spend 10% less every year until they meet the
>> income of the government. The best way, is to
>> *use_both_cutting_and_taxing* , the Congress should implement a rule to
>> force an across the board spending freeze and then across the board cuts
>> on the government spending, to do that we have to include a law in our
>> TAX amendment to the constitution that can’t be easily circumvented, to
>> force them to cut spending 3% for every 1% Congress raise taxes. So any
>> tax would result in automatic spending cuts using a baseline of 10% taxes.
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>> And we need to give up our roll as the police man of the world, let
>> them fight their own fights. We need fewer crimes for people to be
>> committing, we need fewer police and prisons….the above drug and tax
>> plan…. will reduce police and prison needs by at least that 10% that
>> this plan suggested cutting each year.
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>> NO welfare to corporations, and cut welfare to private people by 10%
>> each year until it is 10% of today’s cost. Any way you look at it, we’re
>> in DEEP for a long time.
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> ha ha ha … tell me what legislators are going to do this. Are you
> favoring a Military Junta to implement these ideas?

NO I don’t expect it to happen which is why I have no money in this
economy….. and never will. I bailed about 5 years ago when I
started selling everything I owned.

I’ll wait till the Government makes economic sense before I ever put
another dime on the table where you or the government can see it. I
keep my chips off the table and fold my cards.

maybe in ten years or so…… I’ll come play again.