Re: Global Warming – polar ice disappearing>>or<<Your story begins

On 6/13/2010 1:08 PM, K&*$?%m wrote:
> On Jun 13, 12:05 pm, Beam Me Up Scotty Everyth…@Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote:
>> On 6/13/2010 11:38 AM, Transition Zone wrote:
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>>> H&*$?%e wrote:
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>>> By Tudor Vieru, Science Editor
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>>> June 12th, 2010
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>>> It’s no longer a secret to anyone that the extent of the multi-year
>>> ice sheets in the Arctic is rapidly declining.
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>>> At this point, there are several predictions as to when the North
>>> Pole
>>> will become completely clear of ice during the summer months, but
>>> none
>>> of them is too encouraging.
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>>> Unlike Antarctica, which is based on ground, the Arctic is made up
>>> entirely of floating ice, and one of the main reasons why it’s
>>> melting
>>> other than global climate change is the fact that the ocean
>>> underneath is warming.
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>>> But researchers say the true extent of ice loss is still unknown,
>>> AlphaGalileo reports.
>>> http://www.alphagalileo.org/ViewItem.aspx?ItemId=78437&CultureCode=en
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>>> Over the past couple of years, the estimates of when the ice covering
>>> the North Pole will disappear have been reducing constantly.
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>>> Dr. David Barbers explained why in new conference, which took place
>>> yesterday, June 11.
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>>> The expert was the leader of one of the most important research
>>> initiatives carried out under the International Polar Year (IPY) flag
>>> The Circumpolar Flaw Lead (CFL) system study.
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>>> The team that conducted the investigation featured more than 370
>>> members from 27 countries.
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>>> The status of multi-year ice was the main goal of the study.
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>>> Scientists spend a lot of energy discussing the squiggly line
>>> generated for satellite data on sea ice extent. But the extent does
>>> not reflect the real condition of the sea ice. I think we are all
>>> looking forward to getting reliable data on the thickness from
>>> Cryosat. Because what really counts is the condition and thickness of
>>> the multi-year ice. Even though the extent of the ice went up, both
>>> winter maximum and summer minimum, in 2008 and 2009, the amount of
>>> multi-year ice continued to decline rapidly, he explained.
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>>> The expert added that the North Pole lost over 2.5 million square
>>> kilometers of ice over the past three decades, which is the
>>> equivalent
>>> of 70,000 square kilometers per year.
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>>> Last summer we studied sea ice recovery in the Southern Beaufort Sea
>>> aboard the research vessel Amundsen. We expected to be stopped by
>>> thick multi-year ice, but the Amundsen, ice classed to make it
>>> through
>>> 1,2 meters of ice, was not stopped. We realized that the ice was
>>> rotten. We also observed that thaw pools were formed on top of the
>>> ice, gradually melting through the multi-year ice. This process left
>>> the multi-year ice as floating lumps. When the freeze started, what
>>> looked like solid ice, was really the lumps with a 5 [centimeters]
>>> thin ice layer on top. This ice was mistaken by the radar for
>>> multi-year ice, the scientist revealed at the meeting.
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>> You are suggesting a great flood of Biblical proportions?
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>> Or you finally realized your LIE about the ARCTIC melting was debunked,
>> when you couldn’t explain where the water went. Now you moved the lie
>> to the South pole and FLOATING ice so the lie will be a better scam and
>> it takes away the the facts that prove you are a liar. The odds of all
>> your excuses for Sea Levels NOT rising shows real imagination.
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>> A total of 21 feet according to you “True Believers” If the ice is gone
>> or 50% of it is water then 11 ft, where is it now? You moved your scam
>> from Polar Bears to Penguins to try to keep the scam running… but
>> where’s the Glacier and NORTH pole ice HARRY? If it’s GLOBAL warming
>> then we aren’t _JUST_ talking about the Antarctic but mountain glaciers,
>> if the water’s warmer so is the air. Otherwise we would call it Ocean
>> warming NOT Global Warming/Climate change.
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>> Your story begins to unwind when you have to prove your wild claims.
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> Notice that the above demented right winger can’t come up with a
> single paper written by a single scientist that shows how global
> warming is a fraud. Gutless, cowardly right wingers just don’t want
> to get near the evil science.

People who write papers are liars too….. What is your point?
Being in a paper isn’t a guarantee that the author is credible.

The Church wrote all kinds of things and used your same logic.
Consensus isn’t Science. It’s belief, and belief is Religion.