Re: Tax Private Insurance…exempt govt plans…shocker..not!

On 1/16/2010 8:10 AM, Sid9 wrote:
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> “MACK DADDY” wrote in message
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>> On Jan 15, 8:30 am, “Sid9″ wrote:
>>> “jane” wrote in message
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>>> > On Jan 14, 8:07 pm, Stile4aly wrote:
>>> >> On Jan 14, 6:02 pm, The_Carpathia wrote:
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>>> >> > AS I SAID it would happen…
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>>> >> >http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1419227420100115
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>>> >> > “The deal negotiated with the White House would raise the tax
>>> >> > threshold and exempt until 2018 those plans negotiated on behalf of
>>> >> > state and local government workers or as part of collective >> >
>>> bargaining
>>> >> > agreements.”
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>>> >> > And I repeat from the article…”EXEMPT UNTIL 2018 THOSE PLANS
>>> >> > NEGOTIATED ON BEHALF OF STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKERS…”
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>>> >> > So, end result? Private health insurance plans get taxed…govt
>>> >> > plans
>>> >> > get exempted. Which do YOU think that employers will choose to
>>> >> > offer…the taxed plan or the tax free one? As I said, this is
>>> a >> > plan
>>> >> > to kill private health insurance and move us toward government
>>> >> > managed
>>> >> > health insurance.
>>>
>>> >> > I was right. All those who said this wouldn’t happen are free to
>>> >> > admit they were wrong, now…(I won’t hold my breath)
>>>
>>> >> > Kenneth W Cliftonhttp://stores.lulu.com/kenclifton
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>>> >> You’ve completely misread the language. This applies only to so
>>> >> called Cadillac plans, not to the average person’s insurance.
>>> >> Moreover, the intent of the Cadillac tax is to tax those plans that
>>> >> are essentially so generous as to become a form of compensation as
>>> >> opposed to taxing those plans gained through collective bargaining or
>>> >> offered by the government to its workers in lieu of higher wages.
>>> >> Moreover, given that it appears that there will be no public option
>>> >> there is no mechanism by which people could choose to take a
>>> >> government run plan.
>>>
>>> > Sorry, but everyone here is missing the point.
>>>
>>> > The intent was to punish those evil nasty rich people who have
>>> > “Cadillac” health insurance. After all, the “progressive” (code word
>>> > for socialist) democratic party needs to take from those who have the
>>> > means to buy the votes of their constituents. You know, the
>>> > democratic motto: “every one according to their needs, everyone
>>> > according to their abilities”. I forgot who said that originally.
>>>
>>> > There was one MAJOR problem here. The ones who buy democratic votes,
>>> > the Unions, didn’t like this idea. It turns out the evil rich people
>>> > aren’t the only ones who get Cadillac health plans; the union workers
>>> > ALSO get those evil Cadillac plans.
>>>
>>> > SOooo, our democrats did what they do best. They bought votes. They
>>> > met behind closed doors with Union leaders to strike a deal. The
>>> > Congress couldn’t simply change the bill to say that it “exempted
>>> > union workers”; THAT would be too obvious. SOooo, the Corrupt
>>> > Congress of America changed the bill to say, “or as part of collective
>>> > bargaining agreements.”
>>>
>>> > GOT THAT? The Cadillac tax applies to all, EXCEPT union workers.
>>>
>>> > Do you get eye care or dental care in YOUR health plan? If so and you
>>> > are nonunion, your plan will be taxed. Your union worker neighbor
>>> > next door DOES NOT get taxed.
>>>
>>> > Democrats love to use the “FAIR” word. Tell me how this plan is
>>> > fair.
>>>
>>> > It is obvious why this wasn’t on CSPAN.
>>>
>>> > Jane
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>>> .
>>> .
>>> Most Americans pay for their health insurance with “after tax” money.
>>> Some Americans get their insurance paid for with income that’s not
>>> taxed.
>>>
>>> It’s time to treat all Americans fairly.
>>>
>>> Health insurance is not free.
>>>
>>> Yet some Americans get it for free.
>>>
>>> It’s just a case of being fair.- Hide quoted text -
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>>> – Show quoted text -
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>> If you are really concerned about fairness how about joining me in the
>> fight to demand that all jobs pay equally, eh!
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> Some jobs are worth more to society as a whole and should be rewarded.
> Some people forgo years of income to be trained for jobs that society
> needs.
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Libs want government to make sure that they can’t use that training to
get more money than someone else.